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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:38 PM Original message |
Ezra Klein: Obama's Oppo on Paul Krugman! |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. 3 of Krugman's last 4 articles have been attacks on Obama |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Krugman's attacking the holes in Obama's plan, |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I agree - Obama is wrong on Soc Sec (as is R. Reich) and silly on health claims - he should |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Why is Obama lying about what Krugman said? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Didn't Obama the Uniter say he didn't want to fight the same old battles? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Taylor Marsh said he's going after Krugman |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
6. This isn't "oppo"...it's a simple juxtaposition of then-and-now |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Nope, it's selective editing. Krugman has been consistent |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. How does a mandate NOT force someone to buy insurance? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Can you translate that back into it's original English? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. The post I responded to said |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Yes, Yes. and Wrong |
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Progress And Change (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
41. more Obama double talk. he does not oppose mandates |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. if I'm mandated to buy health insurance from a private corporation, |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. But you DONT have to buy private insurance |
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avrdream (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
50. The point that gets lost over and over and over again. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #50 |
53. It's the propoganda |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Another closet Clintonian's cover is blown... too bad for Hillaryworld! |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. Obama's Healthcare tactics are f'd up. nt |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. The way he criticizes this and SS |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I'm hoping |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I think it's both |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Hmmm, make insurance affordable, make sure all policies |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. How about a link |
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frazzled (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
25. Here, try this ... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Your wish is my command: |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. So does Hillary |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:53 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Hillary on improving quality and reducing costs |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Finally--someone voiced what Obama was doing...he does the same to Clinton |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. No, Obama defends himself against partisan attacks by biased Clintonian columnists |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Then why does he lie about Krugman? |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Where's the lie? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. He clalims that Krugman is changing his tune |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Krugman has changed his tune/tone. See Reply #6 for details. |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. We spent hours on that thread last Friday night |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Hillaryworlders like to regurgitate debunked anti-Obama strawman arguments ad nauseum |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Some Obama fanatics love to attack Hillary supporters too. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. No, Obama supporters constantly defend against endless Hillaryous lies and distortions |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. There's plenty of distortion and lies on all sides here, and |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I think the campaign of Kindergate & the Madrassa email forwarding is all about lies & distortion |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. The madrassa email was handled appropriately |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. No it wasn't. The Clinton campaign sat on the knowledge for 2 wks. and didn't do a damned thing. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I only started supporting Clinton a few weeks ago, |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Funny how you are trying to use the Clinton campaign's swift boating attempts to shame Obama |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. I don't know what the hell you're talking about, |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Actually, Obama went Jeremy Corsi (swiftboated) on Hillary... |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Let's pick just one of your lies apart. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. I don't really understand the point of post #32 |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. No he hasn't |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. Krugman knows his business. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
44. Perhaps you, Clinton or Krugman can tell us just how mandated healthcare insurance will be enforced |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #44 |
51. they can't |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Krugman has, and you know it. You scurried away from the other thread |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 09:28 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. The enforcement issue is a distraction |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-08-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
55. Oh my goodness! Obama should stay in his place!! |
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