|
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend Bookmark this thread |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:01 PM Original message |
Poll question: Who are the only 2 Senators who ducked the vote in the Kyl-Lieberman Amendment? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Who showed "up for work" and did Bush's bidding? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. It all ties back to Obama's inability to take a controversial position. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. "Inability to take a controversial position" Sounds like HRC on illegal licenses. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
21. Being against the war when your girl voted for it wasn't controversial? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. *sigh* |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
65. They do it because they can't defend Obama |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why did this require a poll? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
oasis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
56. I say "bravo". This is a far more effective way of spotlighting Obama's cowardice. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Interesting combo... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Hillary voted YES on K-L and was the only Dem candidate that did. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. So you think it's a vote for war? You don't have a problem with |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. I'd rather he not show up, then vote yes. And it's not a vote for war, it's the first step. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. In the same way that I'd rather be punched in the balls than kicked. Not a defense. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I'm not saying Obama shouldn't of showed up. But at least he didn't vote yes. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. Again, not a defense. Both of them acted politically, and not in the interest of America. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Couldn't agree more |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Not with this pResident, it ain't. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Unfortunately, 60% of her Democratic peers joined her & 1 refused to put his ass on the line |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. and yet that STILL beats the hell out of voting "yes" on it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. For him, maybe |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:30 PM Original message |
No, for America. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
33. Why are you making this about Hillary? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Your focus is on those that didn't vote and |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I disagree. This is about how Obama voted vs. the other candidates. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I would have been more impressed if he voted "NO", but he did admit it was a mistake. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. The vote passed by 50+ votes so his would have made no difference. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. "yes votes on matters of war are what start wars, not nonvotes." |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. do the math |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. One can turn that around. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Your tap-dancing to rationalize her YES votes on war are impressive. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:03 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Hey, this is all about bringing down Obama. Didn't you see the OP? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. If you've bothered reading this thread, you'll see that I'm opposed to |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
69. What do you mean by "the only Democrat who did"???? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. Obama agrees with you. From last debate, 'It was a mistake', but... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. This is a flat falsehood |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. No it is not. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Touche! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
7. Whoever voted for choice #3, thank you! I was hoping that combo would tally at least 1 vote |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. Who was it who voted yes? Ah, the princess of peace. The one who claims she'll end the war in Iraq. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. 76 Senators voted yes, HRC included. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. And 76 Senators were wrong. Dead wrong. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Correct. 46 Republican Senators & 30 Democratic Senators voted "yes" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Which is 3/5 of the Democratic delegation to the Senate. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obama admitted it was a mistake on his part to miss the vote. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Who knows, honestly. I'd rather Obama not show up than vote yes like Hillary did. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Thank you. This fake outrage over someone missing votes vs. how people actually voted is hilarious. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. It's not fake outrage. It's refusing to accept Obamites' fake outrage. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Obama and I agree with you. "It was a mistake", but Hillary voting yes was far worse. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. There's no "worse" here. Both took the route of greatest political expediency. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Your argument is different than mine. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. Here are a few votes Obama showed up for: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. So then you must be really pissed about Hillary voting for the war. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. I'm fine with Hillary floor statement.. Your arguments are old and lame.. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. You can't have it both ways Tellurian. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. I'm not having it both ways.. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Dawgs, next you'll be blaming Hillary for Obama ducking the vote |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Dawgs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:42 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Why would I defend Obama. He and I both admit it was a mistake. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. I'm on Topic...you are not.. The topic is Obama's votes or non-votes |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
70. Nope, they're still blaming Reid for that one.......... n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
16. Is one of the two the one that used to be a State Legislature, that usually voted present? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. The "present" votes aren't a problem, IMO. Those are saying, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. And Here I thought they were saying, I'm not taking a stand. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
57. I think this topic hurts Hillary more than Obama though. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
60. Obama made a mistake in skipping this |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-05-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
61. Consider supporting the Senators that voted NO. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
62. African-Americans are supporting HRC because they know |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 12:52 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. "The Clintons number among those exceedingly rare white politicians who actually like black people" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-07-07 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
64. Who cares? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Progress And Change (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
66. amazing. tim johnson showed up but obama and mccain couldn't be bothered to vote... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
67. i know, i know!! Brewer and Shipley!! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. %!@##!%^X! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
68. That's only because he couldn't vote "present". LOL!!! n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-10-07 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
72. The crew just drips with leadership, don't they??? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) | Tue May 21st 2024, 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC