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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:12 PM
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Earlier threads asked what was the NRA doing about gun confiscation in NO.
NRA FILES SUIT TO STOP FIREARM SEIZURES IN NEW ORLEANS
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Today, the National Rifle Association (NRA) filed a motion in United States District Court for the Eastern District of Louisiana seeking a temporary restraining order to block authorities from confiscating law-abiding citizens’ firearms in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

“New Orleans is the first city in the United States to forcibly disarm peaceable law-abiding citizens and it must be the last. Victims are dealing with a complete breakdown of government. At a time when 911 is non-operational and law enforcement cannot respond immediately to calls for help, people have only the Second Amendment to protect themselves, their loved ones and their property,” said NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre.

“The NRA stands with law-abiding Americans, who agree that at their most vulnerable moment, their right to defend themselves and their families should not be taken away,” said Chris W. Cox, NRA’s chief lobbyist.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:17 PM
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1. It'a a little late though
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Testament Donating Member (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:53 PM
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9. You can't have a case without a plantiff...
...and the NRA didn't have one until now. It's not like with CNN where they were actually wronged, the NRA did not have its rights trampled upon, but the citizens of NOLA were wronged. The NRA needed to find one (and found many) and now it can persue to fix this injustice through the courts. It did not have that option previously unlike many of you wrongly assert.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:18 PM
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2. My Heroes (nt)
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:23 PM
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3. Snipers shooting at those fleeing and those coming to help proves
the bankruptcy of America's promiscuous gun regs and insanity of letting any wacko have a gun. The world watched America's failed gun laws in action in New Orleans and even the gun worshipping Bush misadministration couldn't allow the insanity to go on. I've seen my hometown here in Buckhead held in terror under the gun by Mark Barton and have family in law enforcement and social work, so I know the insanity of America's promiscuous gun regs first hand.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:23 PM
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5. But while they were taking guns away from citizens,
they were not taking guns away from Blackwater Security mercenaries. That bothered me a lot. Something very wrong about that.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:33 PM
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6. The Blackwater Mercs were "deputized"
Like the Pinkertons used to be.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:37 PM
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7. It still gives me a very bad feeling.
Very bad.
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:52 PM
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8. What i'm saying that it usually has been this way throughout US history
And it's not usually very good but it has been accepted pretty much.

I'd sure like to know who the snipers of New Orleans were.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:17 PM
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11. I don't know anything about the snipers,
but who is to say they are not Blackwater? Just a thought. Pinkerton and Wackenhut were not known for high moral values.
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:35 AM
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12. The cops and Blackwater would say.
Some of the "snipers" picked the wrong targets and didn't fair so well when the Good Guys returned fire much more accurately.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 03:46 PM
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20. careful -- the "sniper" stories appear to be unsubstantiated
As far as the alleged shooting at rescue helicopters is concerned, the FAA received no pilot reports of aircraft being fired upon.

Many things that were reported as news have turned out to be fiction. The supposed attack on New Orleans Children's Hospital -- a story that generated much outrage -- never happened, according to hospital administrators. The claims that New Orleans doctors were lethally injecting patients to save them from the ravening hordes appear to have originated with a man working as a groundskeeper in a different city. And then there was the alleged sacking and pillaging of Baton Rouge and Lafayette and a bunch of other places where no such events took place...

It just goes on and on.


I've been collecting these rumors and slanders. There are quite a few of them.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:46 PM
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4. I think they did it because * was visitng and is such a coward that
all the people and guns had to be taken out.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:14 PM
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10. Well, now 2 weeks later, I forgive them for their strong Bush endorsements
:sarcasm:
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 06:26 AM
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13. As do I.
:thumbsup: on your comment!
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:10 AM
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14. lol
I know you didn't miss that :sarcasm: tag, Jody. I'm afraid nothing will budge me from my contempt of them for their politicking at the national level in the last two elctions, but, yes, I do concede their statement/action was a good one.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:17 AM
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15. I'll see your contempt and raise you two contempts of the NRA.
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 07:17 AM by jody
Have a nice day. :hi:
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 09:39 AM
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16. Thank god for the NRA
It is about time somebody stood up against this blatant trampling of human rights. Go NRA!!!
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 09:53 AM
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17. Notice, If You Please.......
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 09:56 AM by Paladin
...that the NRA didn't take legal action until they were able to narrow their targets to "....abuse of power by (Democratic)local politicians" and "....actions of the(Democratic)New Orleans government."

Wonder what happened to that earlier talk of blame or liability being at least partially assigned to the (non-Democratic) feds, hmmm?

You gun rights people who have claimed that the NRA is something other than a blowjob-ready adjunct of the Republican power structure in this country are as full of shit as the water draining out of New Orleans right now.....



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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 02:38 PM
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18. When were the feds confiscating peoples' weapons?
I don't recall reading anything about that.

Got a link, anyone?
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 03:12 PM
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19. It depends on who gave the orders.
The way I remember it, it was the mayor who issued the confiscation and it was the police who were enforcing it. I do believe I read later reports of national guard confiscating as well, but I did not hear of federal agents confiscating. If I recall correctly, the gun confiscations were ended quickly because of public outrage.

Honestly, I consider this action on the NRA's part a bit late and weak, but better now than never.

As far as the NRA being more supportive of Republicans than Democrats -- their support seems to follow the politicians' gun policies.
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Subliminal Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 04:14 PM
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21. Time to hold the government officials responsible
I hope this leads to lawsuits and/or criminal charges against government officials who ordered the confiscation of private property.
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