Commercial Signal Failure developing in pm markets

[junker]

A commercial signal failure (a collapse of short positions against actual demand levels) is developing. When this occurs, gold, and silver and platinum, et al will spike seriously in price. This will be the result of panic 'short' covering. A short in the commodities market is where someone agrees to sell you gold now, at a set price, with a delivery sometime in the future. This is 'paper gold' where vast amounts of (in fact, unlimited amounts)of 'gold' on paper are traded. The problem developing is that this mountain of paper gold (i.e. shorts) will have to pony up the actual metal at some point. Now most of these 'brilliant' banksters have bet that the price of gold is going to go down (yeah, right!) in the future and thus they can sell it to you at 350 and think to buy in the future at 220 and make a profit....well, the real problem is that the central banksters and the gold bullion dealers for the past decade have been running a scam with the American' peoples' gold (and most of the rest of the world for that matter) and thus there is very very very very little actual gold left to carry on the scam. So they are starting to lose control of the market.

Now the consequences are that as it finally dawns on these suckers that the central banks CAN NOT rescue their sorry butts, they will all scramble to cut their losses, which is to say, pay any damn thing they have to to get the gold and get out of the obligations. This is a CSF (commercial signal failure). It is going to happen relatively soon. Predicting it with certainty goes beyond even my ability but I see signs that we are within say 3 months of it occuring. Meaning that without any radical alteration in the economic conditions of the moment, sometime in the next 3 months, the CSF will kick in.

This will impact the 'value' (HAHAHAHAHAH! excuse me) of the dollar, and the 'price' of gold/silver in dollars, as well as a basic re-alignment of the USofA govt and populace. Basically when this happens, this CSF, the dollar is toast waiting to cool.

Take it as you will.

You will note that the crises are starting to multiply and things have gone decidely down hill since my start date (plus one)....

anyway, smart humans see the shape of the future, go out to meet it, and call that destiny. DUmb humans wait for the future to roll over them and call that fate.

Please, do not seek to emulate Shrub in your thinking capacity. Consider that all is NOT as is being sold to you.


Ok sorry, just worry about our collective sorry butts in the coming new year...very dangerous damn times ahead.

[kalian]

1. Agreed Junker....

things are starting to "unravel" at a failry quick pace.
I'm wondering whether this "Saddam capture" had anything to do with
the markets, i.e., they brought him out to try to prevent a serious
collapse. The PPT is definitely working overtime and I'm sure that
they can't keep up this pace for very long.

[rapier]

2. evidence

What is the evidence that a short squeeze is going on in futures, with the December contracts ready to expire? Do you have inside information from the exchange or with a Wall St. firm or a big bank?

[54anickel]

3. Thanks Junker, I've been following similar stories.

Think we'll see a bit of a dip for the usual year end profit takings, and then will start to rise. I don't see the sudden rise that you do, but I don't doubt your call.
'04 is the end of the ECBs agreement limiting gold sales, I've heard of Germany's dilemma and plans, but that's all I could "dig" up. Although I have to admit I haven't devoted enough time to find more. That was enough for me, at least it was until you posted this.

[cosmicaug]

4. I'm a little naïve.

junker wrote:

...well, the real problem is that the central banksters and the gold bullion dealers for the past decade have been running a scam with the American' peoples' gold (and most of the rest of the world for that matter) and thus there is very very very very little actual gold left to carry on the scam. So they are starting to lose control of the market.

How does one go about selling gold without actually having gold to sell? Wouldn't that be considered fraud? Not that fraud is unthinkable or anything like that. I'm just wondering how one goes about doing such a thing (not that I'd ever do anything like that --though, as it turns out, I do own a lot of NOT gold :-)).

[54anickel]

5. Try a couple of googles. One for gold hedging, the other for

central bank gold reserves. Then plan on a lot of reading and digesting the information.

[toddzilla]

6. i'm guessing this didn't happen?

??

[54anickel]

7. Why are you asking me? I cannot see 3 months or so into the future.

From the original post by junker:
Predicting it with certainty goes beyond even my ability but I see signs that we are within say 3 months of it occuring. Meaning that without any radical alteration in the economic conditions of the moment, sometime in the next 3 months, the CSF will kick in.

Did you do the research? I posted some (not all) of the research I have done in the Stock Market Thread this past Thursday.

If you are looking for an answer to whether junkers predictions are right or wrong you need to do your own research and draw your own conclusions. There is just as much news/rumor out there to both support and negate his claims. Which one believes must be determined by ones own research taking into account the sources and ones own bias.

Case in point, should Germany decide to actually sell more of their gold reserves, there are 2 outcomes whether you believe the news or the rumor. One would point to the price of gold dropping when that gold is released, the other would have little to no impact on the current price of gold when it is released but the trend would continue upward.