Hillary /Obama 2008

[liberalmike27]

Now that my friends is the dream team.

Lock up the women, the blacks, and the liberal men and it'll be a lock. Hopefully they will campaign everywhere too, rather than just the north and west.

[liberal N proud]

1. Lets worry about control of Congress in 06 first

We will need Hillary and Obama in congress come November 2006!
Then we can worry about 08

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. I agree. We absolutely must focus as much attention as we can...

on congressional races.

[prodigal_green]

2. Other than being charismatic, what has

Obama done? Not trying to be snippy, I just haven't really heard anything about him since the election.

[Pacifist Patriot]

3. I've been wondering the same thing.

[BlueUnionMan]

5. A losing team...

Come on, now. Please check history. You think we need to run another northeastern liberal just in case all of the others we ran who got trounced were a mistake?

Hillary's from NY and Obama is from IL, both already solidly Dem states. At best the election would be same as 2004. You say this team would give us "blacks and the liberal men". This is very true. But we ALREADY have the blacks and liberal men!

Your claim that Hillary would get us the female vote is actually not true. Hillary is very controversial among women and because of her history. Polling shows moderate to conservative women hate her and she has surprising weakness among liberal women. Many liberal women friends of mine -- especially feminist women -- hate her for staying with Bill with his constant cheating and also feel she is a bad role model because she has never done anything on her own. All she's ever been is "Bill's wife".

She was a so-so attorney at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock but was suddenly made a partner (after being passed up for partnership twice) the day after her husband was elected Attorney General. She became a Senator after her husband was President and during her campaign said "my husband" more times than she said her own name.

But lately she is getting really scary. All of her posing as moderate or conservative makes me sick. She has the same problem "her husband" always had. She is really absent any political ideology or core other than stroking her own ego and being elected.

[newyawker99]

7. Hi BlueUnionMan!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Warpy]

6. Nightmare team, you mean

All we need is another DLC Democrat to sell out the working class as they whore for the corporations. That'll keep us securely out of power for ANOTHER four years.

Screw the DLC and all their candidates. We deserve better.

[davidinalameda]

8. have to agree

nightmare team is more like it

any ticket with Hillary at the top is a sure loser

[Senator Lamb]

9. no thanks

time for some southern, midwestern populist liberals to head the ticket, ie, Edwards, Schweitzer

[Inspired]

21. Yes, a southern populist

is a much better idea. I like Edwards.

[Zynx]

10. For 40% of the vote

Horrible idea.

[kevsand]

11. Don't you be taking my Senator away!

We like Obama just fine, and we're not ready to share yet, thank you very much! :-)

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[CarbonDate]

14. Who are you calling out?

The original poster? Sorry, no, you don't get to do that, not with only four posts to your credit. You can disagree with him, but until you build up a little tenure here yourself, you don't get to go around calling out people with over 400 posts as being trolls.

[election_2004]

15. Lincoln/Warner would be smarter....

The moderate, politically-balanced Blanche Lincoln who would charm the security moms, and Mark Warner as the V.P. running mate to help lock up the NASCAR dads.

http://www.lincoln2008.com

Lincoln/Warner 2008!!!

[johnnomac]

16. Not yet, anyway

I think Hillary will probably be content just being the Senator of New York for as long as they'll have her. Obama, however, I think he will be the first black president of the United States. Maybe in 2012 or 2016 though. Maybe even later than that. But I seriously think he will be the first.

[derby378]

17. No DLC ticket for 2008!

There's a reason Howard Dean is in charge of the DNC instead of one of Al From's bunch. Dean resonates more with the grass-roots than Clinton, Dorgan, Bayh, or Tauscher, which explains why a little-known governor from Vermont was able to make such a splash in the primaries before the old money annointed Kerry.

[CrazyForKucinich]

18. -1 Hillary vote in Minnesota

I voted for Kerry but I will not vote for Hillary, especially after her going after videogame companies and even more those that can't control hacks to the game.

If Hillary wants to protect the children...how bout she get Girls Gone Wild commercials off the air. I'm sure they're more explicit and more public than hack to GTA: San Andreas.

She has lost her mind.

We need John Conyers to be President. Who wants to start the campaign?

[FrenchieCat]

19. wow.....so screw National Security.....I guess Hillary's got that one

covered. I don't know how....but OK.

2 northern Senators?

Why don't we just pull the switch on the Democratic party and get it over with? :nuke:

[election_2004]

22. Didn't you hear? She visited Iraq....

And said we need to stay the course.

And she's on the Armed Services Committee. Gee, I wonder why?

[aspberger]

20. You are 1000% correct

IF YOU WANT TO WIN. If you want the approval of hard-core, left of center, dreamers who's political views have been repudiated in every presidential election(in this country anyway), recant from such practical impertinence. The question is: will it play in Peoria? The truth is we need the support of "kansas" republicans(people who should vote democrat, but have been duped into voting republican by rovian demagoguery). It is easy to live in blue state strongholds and pound the table with self-righteous fervor and point out a centrist as a repuke collaborator; but, in the final analysis these "centrists" are our chance at national power.