I spent $98,000 on a car. Bite me if you don't like it.

[Dookus]

jeez... the people here who resent anybody else having a buck...

[patdem]

1. Honey...you aint got a buck...you got a car...bawhawahwhaaa

the car dealer gots your bucks...bawhahawahaawah!!!!

There is one born every minute! bawhahawhahawahaawahaa!!!

[pink_poodle]

171. Wow, you sound so nasty and bitter!!!!! What gives???? -nm

:

[Sperk]

2. wow, if you don't mind me asking...what do you do for a living?

I don't give a hoot how much you spend on your car, just curious as to how much you have to make to afford it.

[Dookus]

3. lol...

well currently I'm unemployed.

But I've spent the last 20 years working at various startup companies in Silicon Valley. A couple of them have managed to do OK.

[Uzybone]

4. Dont tell Rush

he will call you an "unemployment queen" using unemployment checks to buy expensive cars.
Seriously though congrats, I hope you enjoy the ride, having spent that much you had better.

[Kellanved]

5. Excuse the question : what type of car are we talking about?

A great one for sure.

[Dookus]

7. yeah, it's great...

it's a Jaguar XKR

[SiobhanClancy]

9. Speaking of..

what's with the ads on TV where the guy pretentiously draws out the name jag-U-ar?

[Dookus]

11. believe it or not...

that's really how the brits pronounce it. It's a bit pretentious here, though.

[dweller]

52. really? here?

i thought nothing was a bit pretentious here.

dp

[Dookus]

62. LOL..

I meant it's pretentious when people pronounce it that was in America. Some people do it.

[Kellanved]

10. have fun

A real beauty.

[Dookus]

12. I actually bought it

two years ago. And it's still beautiful :)

[CanuckAmok]

24. Ohhh, nice...

We had an XK8 convertible. You'll love yours!

[SmileyBoy]

38. I loooove Jags. But I like Mercedes even better.

My future dream as an older adult is to own a Mercedes S-Class. Excuse me, I'm drooling again.

[CanuckAmok]

41. Mmmm....double-glazed.

A simpsons quote about donuts, but just as applicable to the windows of the S-Class--they're double glazed for extra silence. My neighbour (retired engineer) has one, and it's like riding around in a sunken living room.

[Dookus]

46. Yup...

my choice was between Mercedes and Jag. I've always loved both, even though, believe it or not, I am *NOT* a "car guy".

But every time I saw one of those Jags on the road, my head would turn. I just fell in love with it.

[SmileyBoy]

48. I had a childhood love with Mercedes.

I think it was the logo that captured my heart most of all. I went thru a stage in childhood when I was interested in cars, but that eventually faded. But my love for Mercedes cars always stayed. I think It's the car that God meant for me to drive. (I drive a 1994 Nissan currently)

[CanuckAmok]

64. I couldn't resist, either.

But, it was on condition that I'd sell it the day the warranty expired, which I did. Still haven't found a design worthy of replacing the XK. So I'll be sticking with the ol' Toyota truck we have for the time-being!

It's such a gorgeous design. It actually made me a little uncomfortable to drive it, because of all the stares...

on edit=I should add that it was used, and part of an estate sale. Nowhere near $98K, not even $98K Canadian!

[RetroLounge]

107. Oh, thank gOD, I tjhought you bought an SUV

then you would REALLY get flamed...

[Dookus]

108. LOL...

thank you for the funniest post of the thread.

*pins gold star on RetroLounge*

[radwriter0555]

159. I'll RACE ya in my MIATA!

Zoom, zoom!

[Dookus]

164. ok.... let's go...

but I suspect I'll win ;)

[radwriter0555]

174. You MIGHT win, but I'll LOOK better, which is FAR more important...

nothing more amazing looking than a hot blonde who knows how to drive -- and I mean DRIVE -- a fast little convertible.

I've been known to yell "YEEE HAW!"

[kcwayne]

6. Really?

I don't give a crap how much money you have. But your need to brag about it totally unsolicited speaks volumes about the size of your insecurities (large) and penis (small).

[Dookus]

8. and your need..

to insult without knowing anything shows volumes about you.

Since you're clueless, this is entirely in response to a couple other threads here in the lounge where somebody was getting flamed for indulging himself with a nice night out with a good friend.

The point I was trying to make was that nobody else should be judging what people do with their own money, unless what they're doing with that money is illegal or immoral.

now stfu

[patdem]

14. spending 98,000 for a vehicle is immoral PERIOD

Immoral for the people to say the vehicle is WORTH that much...this is a crock of sh*t...and you being willing to pay that price? How many could they sell if no one was willing to buy? NONE ZILCH NADA....it is an EGO trip..and do not talk about a $600.00 dollar dinner that is CONSUMED...and no one to SEE the Cost...Expense...the Spending...however a $98,000 car is ALL EGO...because NO car is WORTH that much money...only EGOS are worth the expense...I say .....GET OVER IT!

I love ya babe...but this is totally over the top and is ONLY an EGO purchase!

[Dookus]

17. then...

I'll refer you to the second part of my subject line.


Get off your high fucking horse. When you can show me that every single cent you've spent in your entire life was on bare necessities and the rest given to the homeless, then you can judge.

I love ya too, but these attacks here are outrageous. It's not a zero-sum game. When I spend money it doesn't go into a pit. It goes to pay the salaries of the salesmen, mechanics, receptionists, engineers, and yes, janitors.

[patdem]

30. You are on the HIGH fuck**g horse....a 98,000 dollar horse..

It IS a ZERO SUM GAME....I agree that a 'trickle down' might reach some...the same amount ...sans the %of income to the salesman that could sell 10x at 1/10 the cost...the mechanics are paid not more than a mechanic servicing a Kia for god's sake....receptionsist...engineers...janitors....those 98,000 per vehicle price tags do not enlist more...but less...suppose you ...for your egos sake were forced to purchase 5 vehicles? more mechanics...more secretaries...more janitors needed there....

I have worked for many people...and the one thing I have discovered is that EGO is the most EXPENSIVE COMODITY ON EARTH...WE HAVE GAS GUZZLERS AND MEN IN IRAQ DYING FOR THEIR EGOS....AND THE BUSH EGO...ERGO!

[Dookus]

31. sorry...

but it really ISN'T a zero sum game.

I'm sorry you think I'm egotistical. I posted the information to make a point about Will Pitt's thread.

You know ONE fact about me: I own a high-priced car. And from that information, you feel you can judge everything about me.

Do you wanna know more? Ya wanna know my years of volunteer work with dying AIDS patients? You wanna know about the years I spent protecting women entering and leaving abortion clinics? You wanna know how I help my elderly neighbors? You wanna know how I bought my parents a new house? Ya wanna know how I'm looking into a new career as a hospice nurse?

Once you know more about me, you'll be qualified to judge. But I think it's reactionary to claim to know all about my ego based on one fact.

[patdem]

42. See your post? and where in there is a hospice? or anything other

than I got a 98,000 dollar car...and I dare you to object...and when we do ...you reach into your 'Look at all the good I have done in my lifetime' album to diss us who diss you! I call that baiting..

[Dookus]

49. no, pat...

My post was simply meant to point out that knowing ONE fact about a person is a pretty poor basis on which to judge them as people.

With the knowledge of that one fact, people here judged me to be egotistical, insecure and of having a small penis.

I think it's simply wrong to judge people that way. It's how the right-wing does it all the time: "You're gay?! You must be an awful person!"..... "You're pro-choice?! Why do you hate babie?".... etc. etc. etc.

The ENTIRE reason for even starting this thread was to get people to stop judging others based on one solitary fact. William Pitt, who's about as smart and nice as anybody I've ever seen on DU, was being SAVAGED because he spent $600 on a night out with a friend. I think that's ridiculous. We're all here for a short period of time. Let's stipulate that we ALL do good deeds with our time and money. Let's give people the benefit of the doubt when we only know a single solitary fact about them.

[patdem]

56. Dookus..and I will keep asking..what do you get for 98,000 that you

would not get for 50,000? NOTHING except FLEECED for your BUCKS for one reason and one reason ALONE...EGO

Dookus....WHY DID YOU SPEND 98,000 ON A VEHICLE THAT DID NOT COME WITH A CHEUFUER? (SP?)

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

175. WilliamPitt was "savaged"? Gimme a break

What with his mom making remarks and him spilling his heart out to total strangers, he got a bit emotional when some people (like myself) asked him why he was spending a months rent on a meal for - he explained, but still got all huffy.

And now you're here bragging about your 100k car to teach us all a "lesson" about not judging people. WilliamPitt didn't deserve any bashing, but you sure as hell do.

A few startups huh? The most heavily subsidized industry in America, you do well, and you're coming on here to show off how much money you have. I'm trying to think of the appropriate name for this behavior, but it's probably against DU rules.

Go the FreeRepublic, they will ooh and aah for you.

[ima_sinnic]

44. have to agree--gee, I'm real impressed

--your priorities are real deep, Doofus

[Dookus]

50. I'll keep saying it...

maybe it will sink in.

You don't know a thing about my priorities. Well, you know a little more due the post you replied to, but it seems you find them wanting. Oh well... can't please everyone.

My point is that judging the morality of a person based on ONE fact is wrong. It's reactionary. It's what the right wing christians do. Liberals ought to be better than that.

And if you think the priorities I listed above are not good enough, you can fax me a list of the ones you think I ought to have. I promise to give it all the attention it deserves.

[ima_sinnic]

58. well, gee, that's the one fact you chose to tell us about yourself

--so bfd, again I say <sarcasm>I'm real impressed</sarcasm>

if the only fact I knew about some other guy was that he donated 98K to a 3rd-world village to install wells and open a school and library -- vs 98K for a car whose ONLY purpose is to impress people with ostentatious crass materialism -- which guy do you think I would find more, well, impressive?

[Dookus]

65. It's a simple point...

and you're deliberately ignoring it.


I posted the other stuff to show that people are, well... MORE than a single possession. Judging people that way is often a mistake.

Furthermore, insulting total strangers based on that one fact is often a bigger mistake. I've had strangers curse me for having a darwin fish on my car. These supposed "christians" judged my entirety based on a sticker.

I think it's a stupid, ignorant thing to do. And I think liberals ought not do it.

[pink_poodle]

170. I don't understand why you are so rabid because a person................

has a nice, luxury car and wants to enjoy it.

So, I should go buy a Cover Girl lipstick for $5 (which I have to re-apply every half hour meaning that I have to buy this product more often) rather than this Chanel one at $23.50 + taxes, that I really totally love (every aspect from the container to the gorgeous and long lasting product inside)? This is a small example.

How can people live their lives like this, always having to have sack cloths and ashes in order to be "good people"?????? I don't understand this vehemence towards this man who purchased a luxury item and enjoys it.

You only live life once. Many people will be old, bitter little things, wishing they had done so much more with their lives when they had the chance. That is a fact.

[kcwayne]

16. Well excuse me

How could I have been so stupid as to not realize that your singleton thread where you boast to the world how much money you can afford to spend on a car was really a well reasoned and poignant commentary on what people do with their money and the legalities of expenditure.

From now on I'll read every single comment in each thread before I respond so I won't make the mistake of misinterpreting statements that say "I am a rich, insufferable prick", and see that it is an allegory for rich and compelling social commentary whose meaning is hidden in the tomes of DU.

[Dookus]

18. no...

I would suggest you at least ask a simple question before you start insulting strangers. You might've asked "Why do you need to tell us this" and I would've told you politely.

And if you're still interested in the size of my penis, you can get up-close and personal with it.

[kcwayne]

19. That's rich

Lets see, the title in your post says "Bite me if you don't like it"

Obviously you are cruising for intelligent discourse, and it is becoming very clear that your are a blossoming philosopher just yearning to break out and use your excellent language and explanation skills to enrich the rest of us paupers.

I suggest that you would find more commonality at www.freeper.com.

[Dookus]

23. Clearly....

you missed the point I was trying to make.

But let's be friends.

[clar]

13. Didn't come from money

did you? Tacky, tacky.

[Dookus]

15. (blush)

nope.... come from a long line of Pennsylvania coal miners. Dad was a teacher, though.

I'm going back Thursday for my folks' 50th wedding anniversary and to see all the old relatives.

[clar]

20. Hey, congrats

to your folks, and to you for doing so well. Sorry I didn't mean to be snide. I, um grew up in New Canaan, CT., and sometimes my mother's voice comes welling up through me. ( Blah, blah, blah, nouveau riche, blah, blah, blah.)

[AbbieLives]

70. where in PA

Anywhere near Lansford or Nesquehoning, about 10 miles from Jim Thorpe, about an hour from any city?

[Dookus]

73. They're in

Mifflinburg. Mom's from Shamokin, originally, and Dad from Mt. Carmel. I don't know if any of that is near you. They're about an hour or so north of Harrisburg, I believe.

I didn't grow up there. My folks moved back there recently.

[AbbieLives]

77. Shamokin & Mt. Carmel

Not far at all, in high school we played them both. Mt. Carmel always kicked ass & Shamokin fans were mean as fuck, they would throw rocks at the bus. Good times.

[TreasonousBastard]

21. Well, if I had a hundred grand lying around...

I'm kind of drooling over a couple of Mercedes models. One could reasoanbly argue that no car is worth that, and that a '75 Dart will still get you to the mall, but there's something to be said for owning leading edge technology available nowhere else.

It's not so much the cost of the car, but 12-14mpg, and premium, no less...

[gully]

28. TreasonousBastard...

Great username...

[avtho]

22. I wish I knew your name

I always wanted to say, yeh! I know this guy who has a $100,000 Jag. But now I have to say I know this "Dookus" that has a Jag. Suppose someone doesn't correctly hear the name. Might it come out "Doofus"?

Seriously I always wanted a Jag, won't ever be able to afford it tho, just glad we have some rich Dems.

Good luck to ya. Drive carefully.

[Dookus]

25. lol...

my name's Shawn. Feel free to use it :)


I, too, have always wanted a Jag. When I was fortunate enough to be able to get one, I did. And I love it.

And yes, I get the Dookus/doofus thing all the time :)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

26. Can I bite you just cause it gets me off?

:D

[Dookus]

27. well....

I'm gay as a daisy, but in your case, I'll make an exception.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

29. No worries honey

..um...gay male???

nevermind I just clicked the profile...OK..no worries..I'm a gay female

[Dookus]

32. LOL

yes, I knew you were. But you still bite if ya want. Just don't leave marks. My bf will see 'em ;)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

33. Just tell him you are safer with me than you are with most men

[greatauntoftriplets]

34. My first car was a Jaguar.

It made vroom-vroom noises and set off sparks when I ran it over the carpeting. LOL. Think I was 5 or 6 at the time.

[Dookus]

35. LOL...

mine makes vroom-vroom noises, too.

But I try to keep it off the carpeting. Well... I don't have carpeting. But it would be hell on the hardwood floors.

[Norm357]

36. Good for you!

I have always liked the Jag. I laughed my ass off at "gay as a daisy!" Enjoy the car bud.


Norm

[SmileyBoy]

37. Hell, more power to ya if you spent your honest bucks on a car.

It's the American dream. Live it out...

[Dookus]

55. thanks Norm, Northwest.....

Yes, I have lived the American Dream. My grandfather was a coal miner. My father went to college on the GI bill and here I am now.

I've been very very fortunate.

[ulysses]

39. can the rest of us still talk to you?

:shrug:

[Dookus]

51. hell yeah!

you can even come along for a ride! Just wipe your feet first.

[NNN0LHI]

40. Really happy for you. What color is it?

Not to be nosy but did you have to pay over list? Being a Ford retiree and Jaguar being owned by them now I can get them on the A plan which is a few percent below dealers cost. I was looking at them a couple of years ago, but where I live I would only be able to drive it 8 months or so a year if we have a bad winter. It would be pretty much a summer time car here in northern Illinois depending on how bad of a winter we have. Again, I am really happy for you, and thanks for helping to keep my retirement check coming every month by purchasing a Ford product. I do appreciate it.

Don

[Dookus]

59. Hey NNN....

No, I didn't pay over list... put paid full price, which is actually 85k, but add the taxes and such it ends up 98. Yes, I paid a nice luxury tax on it. Was happy to do it.

It's a Titanium convertible with a black roof and black interior.

And thanks for pointing out that people who buy expensive things actually DO help other people. That 98K didn't go into the pocket of the CEO. It paid YOUR salary. The gentleman who sold me the car was an immigrant from Mexico. He worked very hard and became a top-notch car salesman. He had three daughters in college. All funded by people who buy Jaguars.

[NNN0LHI]

67. Titanium. Nice. I am going to have to go look at them again

Still won't get one, but windowshopping is free. Heh, heh. May even test drive one while I am there for the smiles. Thanks again, and I hope that baby is sweet to you, and you to her. Happy motoring.

Don

[bicentennial_baby]

43. Wacky!

Not my bag, but rock on with your bad self!

[Champion Jack]

45. 98 k? so... that means you lost twenty grand as soon as you

drove it off the lot?

[Skittles]

47. you bite ME

I don't a flying f*** about your artsy-fartsy car.

[Dookus]

53. Hiya skittles...

maybe you could read the thread and figure out what I was REALLY trying to get across.

[sfecap]

60. Forget it, Dookus...

You just can't be a REAL (liberal/progressive/bona fide) DU'er if you are successful. Gosh, and you even worked hard and got yourself a nice car...and you do nice things for others, too.

I would suggest that you immediately renounce capitalism, sell all of your possessions, quit your job, (better yet, get yourself fired) dress in a nice sackcloth, and maybe, just maybe you'll get into the club.

I guess I shouldn't talk about my immaculate Porsche 930S here, huh? :-)

[Skittles]

97. NO ONE HATES YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL

THEY HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE ARROGANT PRICKS.

[Dookus]

98. cool....

You hate me because you know I own a pricey car.

Glad to know your true colors. I've always found you sorta fun on these threads, but now I know that you're infinitely shallow.

And try to cut down on the caps... it makes you sound shrill.

[Booberdawg]

152. I don't think she was addressing that to you

;-)

[Dookus]

153. oh yes....

she was.

But it's ok by me. It's her loss... she doesn't get a ride in the "fuck-the-poor-eat-kittens-cuz-you-have-money" car.

[sfecap]

105. Really? Arrogant pricks? Maybe you ought to take a look at yourself.

You don't know a fucking thing about me.

You make every Rush Limbaugh class warfare stereotype come true.

Sad.

[ScreamingMeemie]

111. Low Blow

Stop listening to Rush.

[jafap]

146. I kinda hate the whole idea

of "successful" meaning "able to afford a $98,000 vehicle" because by that definition Bush, Cheney, Lay, Weill, etc. are successful as well. Coulter and Limbaugh are also successful. I, on the other hand, am a failure because I quit my good paying job at the Air Force.
No reason I should resent the doctor who wants $200 just to take my temperature is there? Why should his "success" make me resentful? It is not like I am paying four weeks wages for a single nitro pill, or then again, maybe I am. It looks like a negative sum game to me, with me on the short straw for pay and on the long straw for expense.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

109. Fuckin A what is it with pilots and porches?

:D My other pilot buddy drives a porche too!

[sfecap]

113. That need for speed....

...plus we have little penises, apparently.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

123. No that's only if you're a fighter pilot!

otherwise you have to go buy a bus like everyone else :D

[Dookus]

125. lol...

I don't know ANYONE who flies who doesn't also own a good fast car.

It's a mindset. Personally, I go a "BIT" above the speed-limit, but rarely insanely so. But I have clocked 110 mph just to check things out. That's nothing compared to some people.

Pilots do it ALL to the max. Of all the things I wanna do, flying is NOT one of them. I scuba dive, been bungee jumping, etc. etc..... but hell, I make a thousand mistakes a day. I don't want one of them to kill me.

[sfecap]

132. Hey! That stuff is dangerous!!

Give me an airplane any day. Safe. :-)

[Dookus]

134. Oh yeah...

as long as somebody ELSE is flying the damned thing.

I've been dying to skyjump for years. I'll probably do it soon. But good lord, I do NOT want to be the one flying that thing.

[Dookus]

54. Hiya skittles...

maybe you could read the thread and figure out what I was REALLY trying to get across.

[JanMichael]

57. Big fucking doowop! Bite me if you don't like it!

I don't really care that you need the new special testosterone injected ego-massage 2004;-)

[Dookus]

61. Hi JanMichael!

I was trying to make a point, which will become abundantly clear if you read the thread.

Thanks for stopping by.

[JanMichael]

66. Oh I read it, your point again?

Yo no entiendo consumerismo.

Pardon!

[Dookus]

69. oh, ok...

never mind. I can't explain it any better than I already have in other posts.

Good luck to you!

[shanti]

63. big whoop

for someone on DU to brag about something so....inconsequential is appalling, especially in these hard times when so many people have been laid off.

get a life.

[Dookus]

68. Hiya Seekthetruth

Read the thread, please.

My point, and I'll reiterate it yet again....

is that judging people based on knowing ONE fact about them is wrong. Insulting strangers based on knowing one fact about them is even worse. You can read upthread to learn more about me.


Thanks for the advice, but in fact, I already have a nice life.

[shanti]

72. you're really into this aren't you?

i reiterate...get a life.

[Dookus]

75. really into what?

promoting tolerance and understanding? Yeah, I guess I am.

What are you into? From what I can see, it's insulting strangers on message boards. To each his own.

[ima_sinnic]

76. oh get off your high horse about "judging people on one point" BS

and as far as "insulting strangers" goes, you're the one insulting us by saying "bite me if you don't like it." not only are you a crass materialst, you simply have no class at all.

a darwin sticker is a message about a philosophy
gayness is a gender, no message there except in the mind of the beholder imho

a 98K car is a message that says I have a lot of money to waste and I want everybody to know it.

[Dookus]

78. lol...

gayness is a gender?

Anyway... you still seem to want to think I'm an unadulterated ass because I have a nice car. I can see nothing will change your opinion about that, and I don't really care to even try.

But I'd always prefer to be friends with people. Sorry that's not gonna work.

[ima_sinnic]

84. "a nice car"?

haha, right.
you can get "a nice car" for 20K you know. The other 78K is for ostentation, to impress people who are impressed by materialism.
have to second someone up above: get a life pal.

[Dookus]

88. ok sinnic...

tell me something about YOU so I can judge your entire life, nay your soul itself.

C'mon... pretty please?

[ima_sinnic]

95. YOU put out the bait.

you chose that factoid to reveal about yourself, what did you expect? Yeah, I'll admit it, I have a very low opinion of people who try to impress me with their superficial, ostentatious, ooh-look-at-how-much-money-I-have vanity. So bite me if you don't like it.

I drive a 94 Oldsmobile Silhouette van. It's offroad now because it has a blown engine and I can't afford to repair it or replace it. What does that say about me? I'm worthless because I haven't achieved "the American Dream"? For your #^%&^ing information I have had to spend the last 10 years taking care of a mentally ill and learning disabled person who has a lot of trouble in the employment scene. It's kept me broke. So judge away. I'm sure you can find someone as shallow as yourself to agree that a 98K car is about the height of success. And I'm sure after you die everyone will say, wow what a winner, he had a 98K car.

[Dookus]

102. No...

you misunderstand. I posted it not to boast. I posted it to make a point about the savaging WilliamPitt was taking in another thread for spending $600 of his own hard-earned dollars on a special evening for a friend. I think it's horrible to attack people that way.

I'm sorry we can't discuss the bigger issue without exchanging non-stop insults.

My point is simply that we shouldn't judge people's entire lives and personalities based on a single fact.

Good luck to you.

[ima_sinnic]

114. I saw those posts and nobody was judging his "entire life"

--a few, a VERY few were resentful that he could get together $600 to spend in one evening. Broke as I am I couldn't get into that, because it was not an ostentatious thing, it was not a vain thing, it was a self-sacrificing and generous thing. And the vast majority of posts in that thread expressed that sentiment. I believe that you really chose the wrong analogy. You have made yourself appear to be of shallow values by admitting you would spend 98K on a freakin car, and inviting those who didn't like it to "bite you." Well to each his own. I really do not wish to pursue this because I do like the fact that 99% of my posts have been friendly, positive, supportive, calm, etc. etc. I DON'T like coming across as judgmental but this has brought out the worst in me.

[shanti]

83. thank you

n/t

[Dookus]

86. ok..

lemme play too!

Tell me one useless fact about yourself so I can judge.

Do you use hair conditioner? Aha! You're so full of vanity I can hardly stand it.

Do you buy Haagen-Daz instead of Dreyers? Aha! You're a selfish sybarite!

Do you swat flies? Why do you hate all living things?

Do you own a VCR? You blind consumerist!

Do you ever ask friends for advice? What's the matter with YOU!? Are you so damned insecure you can't think for yourself?

etc. etc. etc.

see how fun?

[dorktv]

71. Actually I applaud your helping the economy but remember

that a good economy helps Bush more then a bad economy.

[Dookus]

74. LOL...

i said upthread... I bought the car two years ago. didn't jumpstart the economy as I'd hoped it would ;)

[dorktv]

79. Oh sorry...I do not usually read all of the threads.

So I guess my decision to NOT buy a care was a good one.

[Dookus]

81. well...

a good economy will help millions of people. Let's worry about them and not Bush.

Buy a car. Just don't tell anybody here what you paid for it ;)

[dorktv]

85. Right...I will as soon as the gas starts flowing to Phoenix again.

[Dookus]

87. yeah...

what's up with that? I saw it referenced in another thread. What's the issue with gas down thataway?

[dorktv]

90. Apparently a major gas pipe coming up from Mexico

broke and now they have to truck all the gas for Phoenix up from Tucson. Some say it is price gouging, I say it is a greedy company that never spent any money on repair.

[brokensymmetry]

80. Life is meant to be enjoyed!

And if the car gives you pleasure, it's great that you bought it!

All too many people deny themselves endlessly, thinking that such behavior makes them somehow more virtuous.

Since it's two years old now, have you thought about getting it detailed and waxed? It will glitter like new again!

[Dookus]

82. Yes...

had it detailed not too long ago.

It stays in the garage most of the time these days. I have a more utilitarian car for day-to-day use. But it WAS my commute car when I was working - if I hadda spend 3 hours stuck in Bay Area traffic, dammit, I wanted to do it in something comfortable.

It's still fun to take up the coast with the roof down. ahhhh... California livin'

[incontrovertible]

89. there is a prevailing attitude

primarily amongst the trust-fund-kiddie, never-worked-a-day-in-their-lives, brick-throwing-because-daddy's-lawyer-can-get-me-out-of-anything set, that all accumulation of personal wealth is criminal, because the only way that wealth is acquired is by "stealing" from the downtrodden.

"You can't own property, man..."
- Pompous Hippie, Futurama

I got no issue with your car.

Can I have 10 grand? :-D

[Dookus]

91. lol...

thanks, bud. Try as I might to explain that I come from a poor background, worked hard, got very lucky, and spend my time and money on many good deeds..... I'm just an egotistical, insecure jerk with a small penis.

Ain't judgment wonderful? No wonder so many right-wing xtians are into it. As well as handful of self-professed liberals.

On edit:

No on the 10K. I'm unemployed now! But when I find a job, submit a written proposal ;)

[incontrovertible]

92. lol back

Rest assured, the proposal will be forthcoming once I detect eventual employment. Unfortunately, it will most likely boil down to, "I could really use ten grand!"

I've personally given up trying to apologize for economic self-interest and actualization to people who've never personally paid an actual income or property tax. Masochism gets painful after a while!

[Ramsey]

93. Well, I didn't spend nearly that much...

And I think my car is a lot better! So there:

http://www.fantasycars.com/BMW_Z3/BMW_Z3_Photos/BMW_Z3_Photo_4/bmw_z3_photo_4.html

[Dookus]

94. hehehe....

good for you!

Here's to enjoying life!

*CLINK*

[cally]

96. You drive a jag,

live in Santa Cruz, I guess you are just too good for us. ;-) Why aren't you showing up on Saturday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=106&topic_id=211

[Dookus]

104. Hi Cally!

I spoke with Tinoire about this. Unfortunately, I'm leaving Thursday for Pennsylvania for a surprise family reunion celebrating my parents 50th wedding anniversary. But otherwise, there's no doubt I'd be there.

And no... I'm only too good for SOME people here ;)

Have a great meeting saturday. I'm really sorry to have to miss it. But I promise to be at the next one!

[Oracle]

99. WHO GIVES A FUCK??? SELB-ABSORBED????

You feeling guilty? I know the answer is fuck no!

How much do you give to the Sierra Club, the ACLU, Planned Parenthood, Kucinich or Dean, womens shelters, DU, liberal radio, etc...

[Dookus]

103. you might...

try reading a post above where I talk about my volunteer experience with dying AIDS patients, serving as a clinic escort at three different abortion clinics, etc. etc.

And yes... I've given loads of $$ to aids charities, planned parenthood, and the ACLU.

If you read the whole thread before getting insulting, you might've learned that I was making a specific point. Not to boast about my car, but to show that making snap judgments about people you don't know based on one fact is a poor way to live.

Good luck to you.

[Pert_UK]

100. You got an XK-R for that price? Pretty good for a new one.

Mmmmmmmmmmm.......Supercharged pleasure with the bonnet louvres, the special grill and the funky exhausts?

To be a true Brit, you've got to be able to spot the difference between an XK-8 and an XK-R at 100 paces!

And remember - JAG-YOO-UR....repeat after me.....JAG-YOO-UR.

Thank you.

P.

[Dookus]

106. heheh...

yeah, I play that game all the time. It seems 98% of the XK series out there are 8's. I saw a hard-top XKR for the very first time a few weeks ago.

It's the slight difference in the rear fin that let's us spot it while on the road. From the front it's much easier.

[NNN0LHI]

101. Almost forgot

Due to low sales I imagine they have some kind of a deal going on now where they are offering a deal called something like A Plan for friends. Think I am allowed to have two friends for this year use my A Plan benefit. Not sure if it will be extended beyond this year? But I saved over 3 grand on a 37,000 dollar Explorer with the plan right off the top. No bargaing, no arguing, no nothing. Just hand them the papers and they tell you what the price is. I would imagine for a Jag, it would be up near 6 or 7 thousand dollars off? PM me if you are considering getting a new one and want me to check with my benefit rep about it.

Don

[ScreamingMeemie]

110. Three words.

Get Good Insurance. Heheheheh. Enjoy it. Heck, I wish I could drive something cooler than this $20,000 60 payment purple monstrous mini van.

[Dookus]

112. hell yeah...

I have good insurance on it.

It actually WAS in an accident (long, sorta funny story for another time) and it spent a few months in the shop. Got it returned good as new for $500.

Thanks for the good wishes. I hope EVERYBODY here some day gets to drive the car of their dreams.

[chefgirl]

116. Go figure......

You work hard, even spend time and money on some very worthy causes, and just when you decide to enjoy some of your hard earned money there are those who would begrudge you that pleasure. :eyes:
As another poster said........its the American dream.
Good for you Dookus. You worked for it, you earned it, you deserve it. Enjoy it.

-chef-

[Dookus]

117. thank you chefgirl

I was getting pretty disillusioned the way this thread started out, but a lot of people have restored my faith in DU'ers. You're one of them.

thank you.

[jafap]

148. see, some American Dreams involve other things

besides "I got mine". Were $98,000 cars mention in MLK's speach? Dream big. A simple story that I like is Christopher Pike's Spooksville #9 The Wishing Stone. Three of the kids wish for money and things, and one wishes for galactic peace. Now that's a big dream. "If I had one wish" covers the same theme too where a teenage boy "trades his brother for a porsche" through a magical token. His family has more money, but less love.
Of course I have a laptop, a desktop, a DVD playa, about 150 CDs, and so on, but some things are just way over the top - things like $600 dinners and $98,000 cars and "bite me" attitudes.

[Dookus]

149. Hi jafap....

I'll just say that I'll proudly put my "good deeds" experience up against anybody elses any day.

And yes, I own a nice car. Being a decent human being and owning a pricey car are not mutually exclusive.

When you spend your volunteer hours comforting the dying, come talk to me. Until then, bite me.

[Blue_Chill]

115. You self absorbed asshat!

You didn't include a picture! How dare you post about your bad ass car and not hook up a photo!

SCREW YOU! :D

[Yentatelaventa]

118. Thirty Reasons Why Cars Are Better For You Than Women

http://www.tachclub.com/jokes/30_reasons.htm

9. A car doesn’t expect flowers or an occasional meal out

[Dookus]

119. well....

as a big ol' homo...

I'd pick my boyfriend over the car. But I'd have to think about it for a while :)

[BigMcLargehuge]

120. Good luck with your wheels

You feel the same way about your Jag as I do about my Escort (the car not the date... LOL). I just paid it off after four years of hard work, but everytime I turn the key it's like I just started it for the first time.

Cars have this weird effect on people don't you think?

As for the theme of the thread, I got it and I appreciate you taking some of the heat off of Mr. Pitt.

If and when I need to replace my beloved Escort I am thinking about a Prius or a Honda Insight. I drove an old XJ12 that a friend restored some years back and it was wonderful, though I thought a bit squishy in the turns. That same friend also restored an old Maserati Merak that just rocked my socks.

[Dookus]

122. thanks, biggy mcgiant hugeman

Actually, cars have never been a big "thing" for me. I never understood luxury cars and why people lusted after them. Until I bought my jag.

oh.... my... god. I finally understood what the deal was. I had owned a Mustang (loved it) and a Sebring (crap) before the jag and it was an amazing difference. My commute took me over Highway 17 in California... a windy mountain road... twice a day. And the way this car handled it was just leaps and bounds above anything else I'd driven. The handling... the response... the acceleration.... good lord, I almost felt like a straight man! :)

Yeah, XJ series are built for comfort more than performance. But they're all beautiful!

[BigMcLargehuge]

127. Almost felt like a straight man??? LOL!!!

Driving your car sexually frustrated you? I kid...

I've fallen into the drive only when necessary mindset now, and it seems to work for me. For years I commuted, college first then for work, now for me a luxury is pushing my lawn mower or weeding the vegetable garden.

I had to commute an hour and change each way to work in Portsmouth, NH up Rt 101 (formerly known as Deathrace 2000). Although I enjoyed the scenery and the music (the one option I financed as a disc changer) I found myself tired of the drive after a year or so.

When I lived in the UK I absolutely loved train travel. It's a shame we don't have the railway infrastructure here because I would have LOVED making my commute on the rails.

Ahhh trains...

I know, this is sort of going nowhere, but thinking about trains made me whistful. Go figure.

[Dookus]

129. yes... trains...

love 'em.

When I lived in San Francisco, I commuted down to Silicon Valley via train. Loved it!

I did a fair amount of business travel to Amsterdam, and thoroughly enjoyed the train. Europe really has it right. Of course... they don't have the sprawl we have in the US. Our cities are just so much further apart....

But anyway.... I, too, am wistful for trains. The sound... the rocking.... the chance to look out a window on your commute... sigh.

[Dookus]

130. Another thought....

I bought the Jag largely because I had a hellacious commute over a windy mounty road and then into thick, silicon valley traffic.

I've been unemployed now since January. And now all my friends tease me because it's impossible to get me over the hill. My life without a commute has been bliss. My work was stressful, but my commute was probably 3 times worse.

Now I use my motorcycle for short trips around town, my "practical" car (a subaru wagon) for trips to the store and such, and save the jag for long trips or recreational drives up and down the California coast.

[Ein]

121. Do you give a hoot about the environment?

If you had that kinda money, why not by a Prius or a Honda hybrid? I guess you don't. Don't respect my environment, I don't respect you. Simple.

[Dookus]

124. Can I ask a question.....

do you have children or do you plan to?

[Ein]

126. not sure

im only 19

[Dookus]

128. Fair enough.....

but remember, that if you DO have a child, you will be harming the environment hundreds of times worse than my car does.

And I'm sorry to see somebody so young be so cynical that you'd refuse to respect somebody else without knowing anything else about them other than that they drive a pricey car.

Regardless... I respect you. Good look on your journey through life!

[Ein]

131. Im a socialist

if that might explain. I breathe the same air as you. I drive a Dodge Neon, best I can do right now. I have put less than 3k miles on it in the last 5 months. Gonna buy a Prius in few months when I get my new job. If this guy can spend 4 times the money on a car with less fuel and environmental efficiency.... why should I respect him... He's harming my (OUR) environment, voluntarily.

And btw. The oil deposits are going to run out by 2050, so the child argument wont last too long.

[Dookus]

133. ok...

I don't know where you live, but I'm in California. We have pretty restrictive laws on emissions. I think they're the most restrictive in the country. So I don't think your Neon is necessarily less polluting than my Jaguar.

And the child argument is not just about oil It's about EVERYTHING. It's about ALL the resources a human uses in a lifetime. Plus the resources that human's children use... and the resources those children's children use.... ad infinitum.

If you think I'm harming the environment voluntarily, then why don't you attack people with children? Why don't you attack fishermen? Our oceans are being depleted of large fish. Why don't you attack the French for having the greatest reliability on nuclear power than any other country? I'm a gay man who will never father a child: I recycle. I support (both financially and with my efforts) good, sound, ecological causes. I participate in ocean clean-ups as a concerned SCUBA diver. I vote for those who will protect the environment.

I ask for your respect only because I'm a fellow human being with good intentions a good heart and a sincere desire to discuss things amicably.

[Ein]

135. The whole world is fucked up

But there is no way to rationalize voluntarily fucking it up more. End of my part of this conversation.

[Dookus]

136. OK...

thanks for stopping by.

Good luck!

[Robb]

167. Not to be a snot

But you're going to contribute mightily to the landfill when you get rid of the Neon, to say nothing of all the materials and usage associated with getting a new car.

I'm a big fan of the Prius or the Insight, but if you've got a car already, getting another one that gets better gas mileage is a losing proposition, pollution-wise, unless you're going to live in the 200 year plus range.

Sorry, but that's the logical end of the argument.

My Car

[Alan Smithee]

137. Can I really bite you?

Thanks. It's been so long....

[Dookus]

138. ok....

go ahead. If you must....

but I think you have to judge me negatively first.....


(sigh)

[REP]

139. What I Want to Know Is

How's the skunk?

If I had some money, I'd be looking hard at a Jaguar, too. I've always liked them, and I'm not really into cars (hell, I drive an 86 6000LE - what does that tell ya?).

On edit: Just how gay is a daisy? The ones I see always look somber...

[Dookus]

140. The skunk is OK...

I saw him/her the other night and s/he was walking much better. I'd left some food and water for it under the house and it was gone when I went to get the dishes.

I think it's gonna be fine. Thanks for asking.

[REP]

141. Great News!

So, no car ride for you and the skunk - good for you both.

Keep feeding her; a friendly skunk could come in handy.

[Dookus]

142. no doubt.....

this skunk is already pretty "friendly" with me. By which I mean that I can turn on the outside light, walk outside and sit on the porch and watch it and s/he doesn't seem to mind.

I was bummed to find out the other day that pet skunks are illegal in California. This one made me wanna keep one.

[REP]

143. "Don't Ask - Don't Tell"

For example, I have no idea how many cats are legal to have in a California apartment and I'm not asking.

If anyone asks me if you have a skunk, I won't tell.

[Dookus]

144. yeah...

but I can't legally take him/her to get de-scented at a vet.

But if need be, we should start another thread on this topic. This thread is dedicated to my insecurities, ego, and penis size.

[REP]

145. Sorry - Back On Topic

You, your small penis and your insecurities totally suck! How dare you spend a penny on yourself when a pweshush chyyyuld goes without a HappyMeal?*


(*I'm childfree, if you didn't know)

[Dookus]

147. well.....

you see it's like this:

My micropenis was the cause of incredible pain and anti-socialism. Due to my shame about the microscopic size of my manhood, I decided to DESTROY those who laughed at me in the locker room - that is, the big-dicked, low-hanging sons of the elite. Yes... that's right... it was the offspring of the secret rich cabal that rules us all that waved their giant weenies in my face and made me hunger to be like them. Absent the possibilitiy of genuine penis enlargement (though lord knows, I tried repeatedly with multiple operations to extend my pathetic member), I was forced to forego my REAL aspiration of possessing a magnificent cock and was forced to settle for 370 horsepower and and a 5-disc changer.

So far it's working out OK.

[Booberdawg]

150. What a crazy thread!

Interesting the kind of "baggage" people needlessly carry with themselves.

I've been at both ends of the spectrum - days when I was so poor I didn't own a pot to piss in and times sitting pretty fat and sassy. I worked my ASS off and my last 2 cars have been nice cars. (Well, not 98K!!) But I've never felt the LEAST bit ostentatious about it.

And during the times of financial hardship I never felt any resentment toward those with greater means either. Good grief! The resentful reaction seen here really has to come from how people feel about themselves and their own life circumstances I imagine. I don't even hold that against them - I just make the observation.

Well, you seem like a delightful person Dookus. And, I'm sorry you have a small penis. :D

[Dookus]

151. Thanks goober...

I, too, have been both poor and rich. Now I'm in the middle.

And yeah, thanks for the sympathies about my small penis. Reminds me of a joke....

Two men, one very fat, are standing at adjacent urinals. The fat man, noticing the sizeable member of his piss-buddy jokingly says "Nice one! I haven't seen my dick in years."

The other guy says "Then why don't you diet?"

The fat man replies "Dye it?! Christ, what color is it now?!"


*waits for drumroll"

[Booberdawg]

154. That's BOOBER to you, sir!

And that was a terrible joke! LOL!:D

[Dookus]

155. Eeep!

forgive me please!

As a constant victim of Dookus/Doofus slights, I apologize most sincerely Mr. Boober, sir.

[Dookus]

156. awwww criminy...

I just checked your profile and found out you're not a "sir".

Please don't spank me too hard. :spank:

[Booberdawg]

158. Common mistake

BTW, I know you're gay, but do you wanna see a picture of my boobie?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=101064&mesg_id=101064

[Dookus]

160. awwww....

what a beautiful boobie you have!

I just wanna squeeze it and hug it!

[Booberdawg]

163. That's Boober

Hence my username. Wasn't thinking at the time that everyone would assume I was a man, but oh well.

And Boobie does love to be squeezed!:P

[Braden]

157. like this?

sweet. I have two kids so the Ms. thinks a two seater is impractical. I told her it fits me and my golf clubs....

[Dookus]

161. yup...

that's the one. 'cept mine's a nice metallic gray. The jag folks call it "titanium".

I wish with all my heart you'll get one some day. We all deserve a bit of luxury in our lives.

[Braden]

166. one day

but for now I dont want smashed goldfish crackers in my slice of luxury.

[cap]

162. enjoy the car...

have fun... but don't forget the needy. There are a lot of people these days who are not having the good fortune that you are having. Please make a good 5 figure contribution to a charity or the Democratic Party or the candidate of your choice.

We need to change the system so that more of us can have the basic necessities ... and maybe even some more of us can share in your good fortune!

Hope you've contributed to the DU 3rd Quarter Fund Drive!

[Dookus]

165. No prob, cap....

I devote a considerable amount of my time and money to worthy causes.

Unfortunately, some losers here flame me for owning a nice car, but I'll wager that they've never held the hand of a man while he died of AIDS because of a volunteer commitment. I have. Twice.

Fuck the judgmental jerks who think they're better than me because they drive a cheap car. I know what I do with my life and my money... and I'm happy to put it up against theirs any day.

[pink_poodle]

168. A Jag? That totally ROCKS! Way to go and I am sooooooooooooooo.....

jealous. Have fun with your new toy. A Jag is positively at the top of my list. And If I bought one, I'd tell EVERYONE and I would leave the price tag on for at least 48 hours. HA!

[Dookus]

172. *SMOOOCH*

Thanks poodle.

I owe you a ride in the penis-compensator.

[Aristus]

169. Enjoy your Jaguar, dookus. I'm happy for you.

I'm just glad you didn't get one of those stupid frickin' Hummers! Penile compensation on four wheels.

[TXlib]

173. You're not married, are you?

Can't spend like that when you've got others depending on you.

Enjoy your Jag! Sounds like a sweet machine.

I'm not much of a car guy; if I had money to spend, at this point, I'd prolly buy a kickass 36" Obsession telescope, modified for computer control. But that would be only about a third of the Jag's cost. I'd have to think what I'd buy with the rest...