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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:47 PM
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Clear Channel's Bush "Our Leader" Billboard is REAL
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 01:55 PM by Stephanie

The pix were taken by DU's davhill- link

The location is:

I-4 North of downtown Orlando on the West side facing south near the intersection of Fairbanks.










Thanks davhill!
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:48 PM
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1. Well, that settles it
Welcome to the dictatorship. Canada is looking real nice now.
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Melodybe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:49 PM
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81. Damn that thing is just asking for a hitler mustache and a swastika
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priscilla penwright Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:45 PM
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97. Bush with a mustache
Melodybe,

Bush with a mustache – he does look like Hitler.

The photo is at Maravot News

http://www.maravot.com/Maravot_News.html

Priscilla Penwright

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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:48 PM
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2. hmmm, i think it would look better if someone added
gas and a match
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:48 PM
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3. Big Brother Loves You
Ignorance Is Strength
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:48 PM
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4. Oh, what I'd give for a few cans of spray paint
and a plane ticket to Orlando
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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5. Odd
doesn't he look like Tom Brockoff in that picture?

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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:53 PM
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19. Not mine! Mine speaks more coherently!
Good work! Quickly, too!
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Dangerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:20 AM
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125. Well done, odd.
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gumby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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6. Click the heels of your jackboots
and recite:
Seek Hell!
Seek Hell!
Seek Hell!
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donhakman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:50 PM
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13. I told you so
:)
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:21 PM
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116. Don't you mean "Sieg Heil!" ?
</spelling nazi>
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:21 PM
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117. *delete*
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 08:22 PM by Endangered Specie
dupe post
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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7. It looks like it needs a few touch-ups.
:evilgrin: I wish I lived closer.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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8. Someone PLEASE egg that bastard!! Or paint "International
Terrorist" over it!!

THis billboard reminds me of dictatorships where they have pics of the dictator all over the place! Scary!
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Jasper 91 Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:36 PM
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59. A la Saddam.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:39 PM
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78. I was thinkin' more along the lines of Kim Il Sung's North Korea
In Kim Il Sung's DPRK, billboards of Kim Il Sung were everywhere you looked.

Every home was required by law to have a photograph or a painting of the Great Leader displayed prominently.

Every North Korean was required by law to wear a button bearing the Great Leader's smiling visage.

And they had people whose job was to make sure you did it.
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Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:13 PM
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71. Yes. International Terrorist. Someone would pay you to do that! n/t
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 07:22 PM by Starlight
But certainly not me because that would be wrong. ;)

Is that better, telamachus? :D
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telamachus Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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9. don't forget that vandalism
is a crime...just what is the range on a paintball gun????

Devils horns would look great..
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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10. Get as many friends as you can....
Go down to where this billboard is and in a mass protest, take pictures saluting "Our Leader" ("Der Fuehrer") with the Nazi salute.+
Send them off to the local media with a note - "It HAS happened here..."
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:06 PM
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37. Oooooohhhhhhhh...I *like* it :)
there must be some DUers in Florida willing to make a short road trip...
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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11. I still need confirmation
Sorry. I still don't buy it. I'll wait for confirmation, thank you.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:52 PM
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18. Okay, we need a witness
Will someone please drive by the billboard location and take some more pix? Thanks!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:57 PM
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28. GOPNotForMe attests to it
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:47 PM
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98. I've seen the billboard. It is real. (n/t)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 01:07 PM
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102. Another Floridian eye-witness.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. Rest your eyes and don't look in any bright lights.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:58 PM
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30. We already have a witness
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:00 PM
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31. Look at the embedded text
It looks like these pictures are real. That one on the freeway is taken with a rise of land in the way. Now we have a serious problem.

Back in one of the other threads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2735920#2735982

rawstory was saying that Clear Channel was denying the existence of such things. We have 3 different photos from different DU users here of the same thing. Now we have something to worry about.

other thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2736060
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:06 PM
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38. I think all the photos were taken by davhill
I sent the link to davhill's post to rawstory - hope they can kick some Clear Channel ass with this.
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UL_Approved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:11 PM
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39. Kick
This is a great one to get posted around and documented against Clear Channel. Another DU exclusive! BTW, front page?
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DenverDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:49 PM
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12. Come on, Florida feeway bloggers!!! This is an awesome opportunity.
Even though the freaking sign is an unbelievably ironic satire of itself.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:50 PM
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14. That is perfect placement.....
Easily one of the worst shithole locations on the planet.

The bush-bots can pray to the image of their fearful leader as they sit in the endless gridlock on I4.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:54 PM
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23. Endless gridlock, paint guns. LOVE IT. Now, where can I find a paint gun?
Please please let this billboard show up in my town.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:51 PM
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15. One more photo for evidence
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:53 PM
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21. huh?
"A political public message brought to you by Clear Channel."

that doesn't make any sense at all.
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:01 PM
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33. What doesn't make sense? Clear Channel is a big Bush contributor.
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 02:02 PM by Atlant
What doesn't make sense? Clear Channel (including their "Outdoor
Media" division) is a big Bush contributor; that billboard is simply
one way they made a campaign contribution (hence the legally-required
disclaimer at the bottom).

Clear Channel's web site, FYI:

http://www.clearchanneloutdoor.com/

That's why media monopoloies (or near monopolies) are so dangerous.

Atlant
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:53 PM
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22. Okay, I buy it now
:scared:
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:47 PM
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64. I couldn't believe it at first....
...I mean...what kind of arrogance does it take to put up this billboard knowing that at least half of the country wouldn't vote for him and doesn't support him in any way?

This is bordering on idolatry.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:55 PM
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24. Thanks - adding to first post
.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:52 PM
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16. "Unser Fuhrer!"
Bumsen Sie ihn
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:52 PM
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17. ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS FOR CLEAR CHANNEL BILLBOARDS...
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 01:56 PM by KrazyKat
"Benevolent Leader"...

"No Man, Woman or Child Left Behind"...

And a reading of "My Pet Goat"...
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #17
29. Soon, we'll see the collected thoughts of President Bush
A little book with cartoon like pictures with simple verses for the Party faithful to memorize....
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Atlant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:03 PM
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35. Will the cover be like "Shit Brown"??? (NT)
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Lone Pawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #17
68. In case you're interested
the first says
"The Chinese People's Liberation Army is Mao Zedong's Ideal University," so it works pretty well for the upcoming draft.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #17
90. The slogans actually say:
1. The Chinese People's Revolutionary Army is the Great School of Mao Zedong's Thought

2. Move Forward (something something) Along the Path of Mao Zedong's Revolutionary Art

3. something about "facing Chairman Mao" (last two characxters too small to read)

Just in case anyone's wondering :-)
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:53 PM
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20. The best way to possibly handle this is....
To get a bunch of your friends together in black robes and worship it and genuflect by doing a muslim like bow to it every 10 seconds while singing Gregorian chants.

That'll freak the hell out EVERYONE!
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:03 PM
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34. makes me wish I lived in florida this week
I hope that bastard try this in Oregon. It was be great to get film of the crap we could pull in front of it.
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ilovenicepeople Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #20
63. Let me guess
You would be concidered terrorists if you were to stage a mock worshiping of the billboard?
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:55 PM
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25. Don't let Clear Channel get away with lies
Guys,
I originally posted about these disturbing billboards and many of you called Clear Channel to confirm. What you got from them was a bunch of lies saying that they knew nothing about them. I hope that everybody that contacted Clear Channel wrote down who they talked to and got a record. Don't let this Republicanazi propaganda machine get away with these lies (They are supposed to be a news organization?!! -Give me a break! I think that their lies should qualify as breaking news myself!
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:55 PM
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26. Oh lord, that needs a Hitler mustache...... nt
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 01:57 PM
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27. Back in the '90s
I remember seeing anti-Clinton billboards when I was visiting Tampa. I wonder if they were also owned by CC? I remember thinking I was in a place full of crazy people when I first saw them.
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Ducks In A Row Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:01 PM
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32. Ok, so the Clear Channel people are fucking liars
I hear there are paint guns that can shoot that high.

I mean if someone had a paint gun and all.

:)
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gizmonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:06 PM
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36. More like MisLeader n/t
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:15 PM
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40. Nominated for the front page
HAIL BUSH!

HAIL VICTORY!

ONE PEOPLE!
ONE AMERICA!
ONE LEADER!
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deek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:15 PM
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41. Saw one in Fresno, home of the freepers
a bit ago. When I read who paid for it, I just shook my head (who else but Clear Channel, of course?)
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:24 PM
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43. Times Square
Try to put one up in Times Square and you WILL get a mustache on it, besides some insigna and a German translation.
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ballcap1776 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #43
48. :-) God I love New Yorkers n/t
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #41
88. where in fresno?
Give me a location, and I'll see if it's still there.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:21 PM
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42. Land of Big Brother
n/t
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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #42
100. My thoughts as well!
barf
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:56 PM
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44. Still can't write story; need independent photographs
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 02:57 PM by rawstory
I'd need additional photographs taken by independent witnesses. Clear Channel continues to deny the existence of the billboards and I left two more messages, one with the regional market and one with corporate.

Irrelevant of whether I buy it or not, I can't rely on a single photographer as a source. And I don't have the resources or the staff to have someone in these areas check the pics out.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 02:59 PM
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45. Here is the exact location for billboards
Approaching downtown Orlando from the North on Interstate-4. The first one appears just after the Lee road interchange on the East side of the freeway. The second one (The one I photographed) is on the West side just south of the Fairbanks interchange but it faces southbound traffic from across the freeway
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:12 PM
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49. I gave the info to Clear Channel, and will call them again at 4
They should be able to ID which billboard it is pretty quickly. Conveniently, their Orlando press person is out this week; it was the Jacksonville guy I talked to but he should be able to check with Orlando.

Are we certain there was one in Jacksonville?
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:19 PM
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51. I think there is one off I-95 in Jacksonville
At least, that is what others have said. There is another thread with a lot of good info here:

http://forum.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?s=c84ca6b96f6801670cabc942d22c42b2&act=ST&f=12&t=38200&st=105
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:20 PM
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52. davhill says there are two billboards in Orlando -->
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 03:20 PM by Stephanie
I suggest you PM him - perhaps he can get you in touch with an indepedent local paper that can send someone out to corroborate.

There are two actual billboards and anyone who commutes down I-4 near the Fairbanks or Princeton interchange cannot miss them.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2735920&mesg_id=2736455&page=

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #44
47. Okay, so we need to get a corroborating witness for you
And some more shots - shouldn't be difficult. :)
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:29 PM
Response to Reply #44
55. Not photographs, but...
...I checked the Orlando Sentinel -- you have be registered to view, but it's free, so what the hell? :)

In it, I found the following LTTE, and there was nothing in the paper debunking it:

Posted November 20, 2004

Billboard message

On my way to work Wednesday morning, I looked up and saw a giant billboard with a picture of George W. Bush and the words "OUR LEADER" under it. The first thing I thought was, when was the last time I have seen a president on a billboard? What is going on? Didn't Saddam Hussein have his picture up everywhere? What next, a statue?

I am so concerned with our country and the division. I still stand by my vote, which was for John Kerry. George W. Bush has a lot of work to do to change the way I feel. Putting him up on a billboard does not make him a better president. His actions speak louder than words.

I wonder if anyone else finds the president's picture on a billboard odd? I'm sorry, but it reminds me of countries with dictators, and it seems people are making him out to be the messiah, the savior of our world.

Fear, fear, fear. I'm tired of being afraid.

writer's name omitted at DU by me -- you can see it at:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/opinion/letters/orl-edple20112004nov20,1,6430675.story



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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. Thanks for verification from Orlando Sentinel
This should lend some credibility to billboards
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NervousRex Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:06 PM
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46. I was skeptical...
but it looks to be verified..and...truly frightening.



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ballcap1776 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:13 PM
Response to Reply #46
50. I just spit my diet coke all over my keyboard...
Gee Thanks... LOL! Good one!
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President Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:22 PM
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53. Clear Channel's CEO Lowry Mays - complete political donation history
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:49 PM
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99. It's not just Mays -- it's Tom Hicks
Just Google a little on Hicks and UTIMCO and the Texas Rangers. You'll get the idea.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:25 PM
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54. I could probably do this tomorrow
that's not far from where I live. I doubt if my photos would look much different from his, though!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:29 PM
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56. That would be excellent, and if you could pm to rawstory too
He just needs a second witness to corroborate, since Clear Channel is claiming the billboards don't exist.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:35 PM
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58. OUR W H A T ?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 03:41 PM
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60. Practically begging me to dust off my Tippmann
Pneumatics custom. Let's see...red? No, Dem Blue. Semi auto, 50 rounds in the banana feed. Would take about 15 secs...

I would of course NEVER do that. No sir, not me. Never.
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Oreo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 04:22 PM
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61. DUer gets confirmation from Orlando Sentinel
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 04:40 PM by Oreo
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

From Momof3inTexas
Talked to Michael Murphy at Orlando Sentinel about Billboard
He just verified that the billboard DOES in fact exist. His number is 407-540-xxxx. It is located at the corner of I-4 and Fairbanks.
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:59 PM
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66. I'm getting a 404 on that link n/t
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Liberal Mommy Donating Member (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:15 PM
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72. Link to my post
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:27 PM
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62. Good thing we toppled Saddam's statue...
To make room for Bushler's!!!

:puke:
:puke:
:puke:
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azoth Donating Member (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:10 PM
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70. yeah...eerie ain't it. Yikes.
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erniesam Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 06:54 PM
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65. This billboard is so wrong, it should say "Our Dear Leader"
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:05 PM
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75. lol! yes it should
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:02 PM
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67. Bu$h would look more appropriately "dictatorial" with a little mustache
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 07:25 PM by Zorra
painted on or burned into his picture on that billboard. A little rectangular one, centered above his upper lip.
Whaddya think?


Please boycott Clear Channel and any company and product that they advertise.
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sans qualia Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:08 PM
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69. ... omg
I don't have words. This is just terrible. :cry:
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:24 PM
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73. X out "Our" and write "Speak for your Fuckin' self"
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:29 PM
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96. How about "Dear" Leader?
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Carl Brennan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 07:26 PM
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74. Billboards make good firewood. Also
I was thinking that if you were good with a paintball gun you could make his eyes look pretty strange, hee, hee, hee.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:23 PM
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76. Good Gawd doesn't anybody have any BALLS in this country anymore
I'm over forty and a "chick" but damn if that thing was anywhere near me I swear to you it would be looking not so perfect and clean.

Florida you are a bunch of pussies! Good god are their no punks? No teens with markers?
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:27 PM
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77. For all we know, Jeb is having that billboard protected
by state troopers!
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:41 PM
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79. Generator - I'm thinking paint guns
Or heck, Uzis..
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T Bone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:50 PM
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82. Can anyone say Cult of Personality?
I knew you could. I can't believe no one is saying it with a paint gun.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:43 PM
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80. Na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na
LEADER!! Leader!! LEADER.
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2sheds Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:50 PM
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87. Gaze in awe at my collection of Leader Beans! (n/m)
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:53 PM
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83. Finally for y'all, a NEWS STORY on this!
Anyone know anything about a charles w. clayton, jr?

http://rawstory.com

By John Byrne | RAW STORY Editor

A billboard recently put up in Orlando bearing a smiling photograph of President Bush with the words “Our Leader” is raising eyebrows among progressives who feel the poster is akin to that of propaganda used by tyrannical regimes.

RAW STORY confirmed the billboard’s existence Monday evening. At our behest, a member of an Orlando media organization drove past the billboard on two occasions and verified that it was indeed the one pictured.

The billboard pictured, which is on I-4, says that it is a “political public service message brought to you by Clear Channel Outdoor.”

The member, who declined to be named out of concern for their employer, discovered a second billboard bearing the same image along the same route, paid for by Charles W. Clayton Jr.

Clear Channel Outdoor Orlando said they could not respond to requests for comment this week because their press person was “away.” They referred calls to their San Antonio corporate parent, which did not return two messages for comment.

One Orlando resident penned a concerned letter to the (registration-restricted) Orlando Sentinel on Saturday about the billboard. As the site is restricted to members, the letter appears below.

“The first thing I thought was, when was the last time I have seen a president on a billboard?” wrote resident Dianna Lawson. “Didn’t Saddam Hussein have his picture up everywhere? What next, a statue?”

Reporters at the Orlando Sentinel told RAW STORY they’d also seen the photograph.


More at: http://rawstory.com
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:02 PM
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85. Thank you for the story!!
Thank you so much for writing the story. It is so frustrating when the media refuses to report on things like this! Thank God for Raw Story!!
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 11:47 PM
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89. I was just googling Charles W. Clayton, Jr. He's apparently
Edited on Mon Nov-22-04 11:54 PM by highplainsdem
a realtor in Seminole County, judging by mentions of him on Seminole County Board of County Commissioners Agendas. (See http://www.seminolecountyfl.gov/agenda/101204/A_101204.htm and http://www.seminolecountyfl.gov/agenda/101403/A_101403.htm .) He's mentioned on some web pages with W. Malcolm Clayton, who's a member of the Orlando Regional Realtor Association.

Just found this, too:

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:wQlQ_8LpIUoJ:www.comstockvaluation.com/CourtDocs/Clayton%2520v.%2520Commissioner,%2520T.C.%2520Memo%25201981-433.doc+%22charles+w+clayton+jr%22&hl=en

This page is mostly about a tax dispute (underpayment of taxes), but mentions their real estate partnership.

It's interesting that he's sponsoring one of those billboards, while Clear Channel sponsored the other.

Raises the question of just who came up with this brilliant plan for advertising Der Fuehrer -- excuse me, "Our Leader" -- in this way. Is this another of Karl Rove's ideas? And how many other billboards like this are out there?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:43 AM
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92. Somebody on one of the threads reported there's one in Fresno
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 08:44 AM by Stephanie
we haven't seen pictures yet though
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:12 AM
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91. The eyes of Dr. T. J. Eckleberg
Remember the optometrist's billboard in The Great Gatsby? The eyes represented some sinister symbolism that I can't remember right now.
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Mixter Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:20 PM
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103. Charles W. Clayton, Jr.
Charles W. Clayton, Jr.
1011 North Wymore Road
Winter Park, FL 32789
Phone: (407) 622-0000
Fax: (407) 622-1842
E-mail: [email protected]
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 09:59 PM
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84. That is just screaming for some irreverent and disrespectful graffiti! n/t
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-04 10:40 PM
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86. Just because I have waaaaayyyyy too much time on my hands....


Cam
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:44 AM
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93. This billboard has got to be fake.
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 11:50 AM by Skinner
The small text at the bottom is too legible, too sharp, and too white. I use Photoshop a lot, and that looks like PhotoShop. I'd be curious to actually see the high-res original of this photograph (if it even exists).

Also, the disclaimer is highly dubious: "A political public service message..." A political public service message?

Unless and until someone can come up with some sort of independent verification that doesn't come from an anonymous person on an internet message board, I'm locking.

ON EDIT: I still think this is fake, but after an appeal we have decided to unlock the thread and permit discussion to continue.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:05 PM
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94. Thanks Skinner! Now is there anyone in Orlando who can get more shots?
If we had another set of pix I think everyone would be convinced.
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rawstory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:24 PM
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95. Just sent this to Skinner: You can verify the billboard with AP
Appreciate your skepticism -- but it's easy to confirm. I got confirmation both from Orlando AP and the Orlando Sentinel -- anything else you need to prove it? Happy to oblige.

The two reporters/editors at the sentinel are Dixie Tate and Matt Murphy. At AP, the person at the Orlando news desk will be able to help you.

AP Orlando is:

Orlando
P.O. Box 2831
Orlando FL 32802-2831
(407) 425-4547
Fax: 648-801

For it to be fake, both the city's newspaper and the AP local bureau would have to be lying to me. Thanks again.
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 12:59 PM
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101. can some patriot deface those creepy things already?
where is the paul revere of orlando when we need him (or her of course).
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:34 PM
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104. "I don't get it"
That's the reply I got from someone I just sent the message to. She didn't understand why I was upset, or "what the big deal is."

And we wonder why this country's screwed?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:49 PM
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118. Bet she would be infuriated if that had been Pres. Clinton up on that
billboard during his Administration. Bet she would "get it" then, wouldn't she? Is she aware that * has publicly stated he wanted this Country to be a dictatorship, so long as he were the dictator? And knowing that little fact, would that billboard of * upset? We would hope so!
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 02:42 PM
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105. Other sites picking up this story!
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 06:55 PM
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112. Michael Moore picked it up!
Fantastic.
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:21 PM
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106. Maybe they are reminding us it is Bush and not Cheney
who is "Our Leader." -I found that line on another forum (lol!)
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Flying Coyote Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:35 PM
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107. Viewed throught the glasses from "They Live"
Edited on Tue Nov-23-04 04:35 PM by Flying Coyote
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:43 AM
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122. Now that was freakin' hillarious, and I don't even speak German.......
If I were rich, I'd pay for that billboard gladly.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:09 AM
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123. Why couldn't we pay for that billboard? That is freaking hilarious.
How much would it cost to buy a billboard? We could buy one billboard and get the story out everywhere. Wanna do it?
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:35 AM
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126. You BET! Count me in for $50
I would take great pride in being part of this. :headbang:
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:41 AM
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128. This is a great idea and should be posted on I-4 somewhere between
...the Bee Line and SR 535 on the way to Walt Disney World
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 08:43 AM
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129. is there a website we can use to insert text?
I've seen so many people insert their own text, is there a website for those of us with little or no photoshop experience where we can just type some text and there it is?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:37 PM
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108. It makes me think of Stalin.
And how his image was projected on screens and posted on walls throughout USSR.
Scary shit IMO.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:42 PM
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109. so have they started on the giant statue yet?
That they can put in front of the DC palace...I mean White House??

:scared: This is just too surreal.....
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against all enemies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:44 PM
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110. Now that is highwat trash.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 04:45 PM
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111. Who wants to trade leader-beans?!
How much more creepy fascist overtones do we have to put up with before we can start comparing them to nazi's without invoking godwin's law?
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classics Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 07:58 PM
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113. Wont burn your eyes out.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:04 PM
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114. Best one yet!
Thanks!
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:27 AM
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120. While it beats looking at the chimp...
...I wouldn't want THOSE billboards up either.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-04 08:18 PM
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115. Should read in German...
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whiteroseunderground Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 12:17 AM
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119. G.N.A. "Godwin Not Applicable"
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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 01:32 AM
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121. 1984, Isn't it?
Didn't Orwell call him FEARLESS LEADER?

I forget. Maybe that was Moose and Squirrel?

WE LIVE IN A FRIGHTENING AGE.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 02:18 AM
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124. CLEAR CHANNEL EXECUTIVES: COMPLAIN HERE!
CLEAR CHANNEL CONTACTS: PROTEST BILLBOARDS! A little sleuthing tonight and I came up with this list of Clear Channel executives. Call and tell them you plan to dump shares of Clear Channel stock over the Bush billboard scheme that their subsidiary, Clear Channel Outdoor, has cooked up. Just remind them what an organized Democratic Internet effort did for Sinclair Broadcasting's stock prices. That should get their attention! You can also state that you will be boycotting their station and their advertisers, as well as boycotting concerts sponsored by Clear Channel.

Start with:

Lowry Mays, Chairman of the Board
[email protected]

Mark Mays, President & CEO
[email protected]

Randall Mays, Exec. VP & Chief Financial Officer
[email protected]

Lisa Dollinger
Senior VP, Corporate Communication
[email protected]

Randy Palmer
Investor Relations
[email protected]
(**Great place to start. He's got to keep all those stockholders happy.)
(210)822-2828 CALL HI

Clear Channel Corporate
1-210-822-2828 (you might try calling after hours to see if there's a directory for the executive by name, or at least an extension for the executive offices)

Clear Channel Outdoor (a division of Clear Channel Communications)
(602)957-8166 corporate office

Does someone here know how to find out which mutual funds own stock in Clear Channel? The trading symbol on the NYSE is CCU.

Clear Channel has some sort of affiliation with the Quetzal/Chase Fund at 212-622-3516; contact is Reginald Hollinger.

Can anyone find a list of Clear Channel stations and advertisers to contact next?

For more leads, go to http:://www.clearchannel.com/Corporate/contactus.aspx

Note: Clear Channel is based in San Antonio, Texas--Bush country.

Please forward this info to others and post on other sites.



This is the DU member formerly known as mraftery.


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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 03:21 AM
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127. That's SAD billboard. It's so SAD that he's our leader.
I think they're finally realizing what they've done. It almost made me cry.


http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13
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EV1Ltimm Donating Member (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-24-04 09:08 AM
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130. You have to put on your Republi-vision glasses and decoder ring
... to read the secret message.

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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-04 09:57 PM
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131. Is there one of these in Fresno? Where? n/t
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-27-04 12:57 AM
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132. Disgusting!
Kerry Better contest that Ohio Vote by Monday!!!or its all over.
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