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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:06 AM
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Congressional News Conference Meeting with Former Haitan President
Congressional Black Caucus
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)

Conyers, John Jr., U.S. Representative, D-MI
Ives, Kim, Representative, Haiti Commission

Showing now at www.cspan.org
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:08 AM
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1. This could get troubling for *
thanks for the heads up
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:18 AM
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4. Yes, It Could ... But
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 09:18 AM by Crisco
It's on a Friday, so unless something truly explosive comes out (and there's another huge terrorism incident a la Madrid) I reckon we won't hear too much about it.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:14 AM
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2. Rep Conyers
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 09:16 AM by seemslikeadream
My concern is one for the freedom of Pres. Aristide and his wife and more importantly is he still alive. I call on the President, I have received no response. The was a time when Artistide was calling me and others, now we have not been able to talk to him. We need to confirm they are still alive. They are obiviouly being held and not being able to call. We were told the US is not responsible for their safety.
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JoeKSimmons Donating Member (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:17 AM
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3. Would the CBC do the same for Chavez?
Or is there something not-the-same-looking about Aristide that makes him more deserving of support than Chavez?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:27 AM
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6. They might if it comes to that.
Chavez is not as alabaster skinned as most of you folks in Vermont. Many of his followers are definitely among the darker Venezuelans.

There is a racial aspect to social class in Latin America. Of course, there's also a social aspect to their racial categories--the richer you get, the lighter you're perceived as being. Things aren't as black & white there as up here.






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Myra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:37 AM
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8. Well, on clear difference is that BushCo's attempted coup failed w Chavez
in Venezuela, whereas it succeeded w Aristide in Haiti.

Chavez can speak out, and is speaking out.
(He told Reuters the other day that Bush is an "asshole."
Not that that's news...)

Aristide clearly was gagged, or worse, the past few days.
First he was telling the world he was kidnapped, then silence...
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keithyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 12:42 PM
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13. I think they would do the same for Chavez.
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 12:43 PM by keithyboy
They support lifting sanctions agaisnt Cuba and have a history of supporting the disenfranchized in central and south America. The media just won't report it. But why begrude them for sticking up for black nations? Who else in this government will do so?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:22 AM
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5. Conyers and CBC Meet with President Bush Regarding Haiti
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 09:23 AM by seemslikeadream
Press Release
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Algene Sajery
February 25, 2004 (202) 225-5126

Conyers and CBC Meet with President Bush Regarding Haiti
First Meeting between the CBC and the President

Washington, D.C. - Today, Congressman John Conyers, Ranking Member of the House Judiciary Committee and Dean of the Congressional Black Caucus and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus demanded a meeting with President Bush regarding Haiti. This historic meeting was the first ever between Bush and the CBC and Congressman Conyers made the following statements:

“The current humanitarian situation in Haiti is shameful and appalling. It is the moral duty of the United States to provide immediate aid to the deserving people of Haiti. I call upon the Bush Administration to help create a humanitarian zone, so that the 268,000 Haitians dependent on food aid in northern Haiti will receive their much needed provisions.

“I also am calling upon our government to immediately provide re-enforcement to the police troops in Haiti. Every hour more innocent people are being maimed and killed while the poorly trained police force seeks to stave off criminal rebels. The Congressional Black Caucus is on conducting a 24/7 watch on Haiti until this crisis is stabilized.

“I implore President Bush to make an affirmative statement asserting our government’s support for democracy and the rule of law and denouncing the violent overthrow of a democratically elected president. We can not wait for a political solution. We must act now to provide re-enforcement troops and humanitarian aid to Haiti”.

http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/mi14_conyers/108_2_25_04.html

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:29 AM
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7. Congresswoman Barbara Lee Introduces TRUTH
PRESS RELEASE

For Immediate Release Contact: Stuart Chapman

March 9, 2004 (202) 225-2661



Congresswoman Barbara Lee Introduces TRUTH
(The Responsibility to Uncover the Truth about Haiti) Act
Bill Would Establish Independent Commission




Washington, DC – Congresswoman Barbara Lee (D-CA), Congressional Black Caucus Haiti Task Force Co-Chair, today introduced the TRUTH (The Responsibility to Uncover the Truth about Haiti) Act today, which calls for an independent bipartisan commission to uncover the facts about the Bush Administration’s involvement in the recent coup d’etat in Haiti. The bill was co-sponsored by CBC Haiti Task Force Co-Chair John Conyers and 23 other Members.



The TRUTH Act calls for the commission to investigate, among other questions, the following: 1) Did the U.S. Government impede democracy and contribute to the overthrow of the Aristide government? 2) Under what circumstances did President Jean-Bertrand Aristide resign, and what was the role of the United States Government in bringing about his departure? 3) To what extent did the U.S. impede efforts by the international community, particularly the Caribbean Community (CARICOM) countries, to prevent the overthrow of the democratically-elected Government of Haiti? 4) What was the role of the United States in influencing decisions regarding Haiti at the United Nations Security Council and in discussions between Haiti and other countries that were willing to assist in the preservation of the democratically-elected Government of Haiti by sending security forces to Haiti? 5) Was U.S. assistance provided or were U.S. personnel involved in supporting, directly or indirectly, the forces opposed to the government of President Aristide? 6) Was U.S. bilateral assistance channeled through nongovernmental organizations that were directly or indirectly associated with political groups actively involved in fomenting hostilities or violence toward the government of President Aristide?



Following the makeup of the WMD commission called for in H.R. 2625 legislation by Congressman Henry Waxman (D-CA) last year, the TRUTH commission would be made up of ten members, five chosen by the Democratic congressional leadership and five by the Republican congressional leadership.



“The Bush Administration’s efforts in the overthrow of a democratically-elected government must be investigated,” said Lee. “All of the evidence brought forward thus far suggests that the Administration has, in essence, carried out a form of ‘regime change,’ a different variation than it took in Iraq, but still regime change. The American people and the international community deserve to know the truth, and this bill will offer the opportunity to investigate the long-term origins of the overthrow of the Haitian government and the impact of our failure to protect democracy.”

http://www.house.gov/lee/releases/04Mar09.htm
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:07 AM
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9. Is this the one from yesterday?
There was a news conference with International ANSWER where Conyers spoke and Ives spoke? This one is in the latest video at c-span.org. Is this the one you're referring to? from the c-span.org site:

Haiti Support Network News Conference on Aristide
The Haiti Support Network sponsors this news conference on their meetings with the former President of Haiti, Jean-Bertrand Aristide.
3/11/2004: WASHINGTON, DC: 1 hr. 20 min.

Or, was there another one on c-span about Haiti early this morning?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:18 AM
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10. Yes
that's the one.
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:52 AM
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11. thanks - - Ives calls for investigation of "operation jade"
Kim Ives made some good points, I thought. I liked his call for an investigation of why there were 200 special forces deployed a year ago or so on the border region of the DR and Haiti where these armed criminals were using the territory to stage raids into Haiti.

this whole thing stinks, and I think Ives is right. There should be an investigation of the arms shipped to DR, why the US special forces were there, why the DR denies knowledge when DR law requires special permits for such operations.

why did they need to send 200 special forces to the border when the DR army supposedly has no problem in patrolling and closing down that border?

how could these "rebel opposition" -- in other words the criminals and thugs -- use the DR border region as a staging ground, esp when the DR army patrols and controls it so well?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 12:01 PM
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12. The Business of War: Making a Killing
From The Center for Public Integrity, 28 October 2002

By the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists



2. Privatizing Combat, the New World Order

In 1998, unbeknownst to most Americans, the United States had a military presence in a remote African war that drew little attention from the media. Unlike other U.S. interventions in Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti and Kosovo, there was no hand-wringing over whether a deployment was justified by U.S. national interests, whether troops would be spread too thin, whether American men and women should be put in harm’s way in a fight that had little to do with Main Street America, or whether the level of barbarity justified, on its own merits, the deployment of U.S. troops on humanitarian grounds.

The conflict in Sierra Leone, in which the rebels of the Revolutionary United Front displayed a ghastly predilection for amputating the limbs and noses of their victims, could certainly compete with the horrors of “ethnic cleansing” in Bosnia and Kosovo and the man-made famine engineered by warlords in Somalia. In November 1998, the RUF was in the middle of an orgy of looting, murder and decapitation, an operation codenamed “No Living Thing.” There was international intervention aimed at stopping the bloodshed. Sierra Leone’s demoralized and under-equipped national army was bolstered by Nigerian troops – flying the colors of the West African peacekeeping force, ECOMOG – and a handful of South African mercenaries in helicopter gunships who made constant forays into the battle zones to attack the RUF. In Freetown, the country’s capital, two large transport helicopters circled in the air, backing up the Nigerian troops. Painted on their fuselages were American flags.

This small U.S. contribution to defending Sierra Leone was not conducted by an elite unit of the Army, Navy or Marines, but by a private, Oregon-based company, International Charter Incorporated of Oregon (ICI), managed in part by former U.S. Special Forces operatives. ICI is one of several companies contracted by the State Department to go into danger zones that are too risky or unsavory to commit conventional U.S. forces. It also has been active in conflicts in Haiti and Liberia. ICI’s role in Sierra Leone was to back up the Nigerian troops, providing transport and medical evacuation services. The hot combat, as one former ICI employee explained to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists, was left to the South African mercenaries. But ICI personnel inevitably and often were shot at and forced to return fire, according to team members interviewed by ICIJ, a right these sources claimed was explicitly extended to ICI in a letter from then-U.S. ambassador to Sierra Leone, Joseph Melrose. The State Department did not respond to requests for comment by telephone or through the Freedom of Information Act on whether such a letter was issued. ICI refused to respond to a number of questions put to the company on several occasions.

The United States had little real interest in Sierra Leone itself. U.S. involvement was driven by the fear that the instability and anarchy caused by the RUF and its sponsor, Liberian President Charles Taylor, would prove a danger to Washington’s ally Nigeria, an oil-rich nation that is the fifth largest supplier of crude to the United States. For ICI, the mission to Freetown was business, but it also advanced U.S. foreign policy. ICI’s deployment is part of a global trend of military outsourcing and foreign policy by proxy that has become far more common since the end of the Cold War. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, the nature of international conflict shifted from U.S.-Soviet competition in client states to regional and ethnic conflicts requiring peacekeeping or other engagement. At the same time, the end of Cold War resulted in reduced superpower defense budgets, forcing even high-ranking military officers to sell their talents in the public sector. This collision of supply and demand resulted in a new age of military and security services on the world market.

In fact, a nearly two-year investigation by ICIJ identified at least 90 private military companies, or PMCs (as some of these new millennium mercenaries prefer to be known), that have operated in 110 countries worldwide. Most of these companies – defined as providing services normally carried out by a national military force, including military training, intelligence, logistics, combat and security in conflict zones – are headquartered in the United States, Britain and South Africa, though the vast bulk of their services are performed in conflict-ridden countries in Africa, South America and Asia. Eleven of the companies identified by ICIJ are no longer active, and the operational status of 18 others could not be determined.....

The strong links between the U.S. government and many of the private military companies that contract with them has presented questions regarding the revolving door between government and the private sector. In 1992, the Pentagon, then headed by Defense Secretary Dick Cheney, paid Brown & Root Services $3.9 million to produce a classified report detailing how private companies could help provide logistics for American troops in potential war zones. Later in 1992, the Pentagon gave Brown & Root an additional $5 million to update the report. Brown & Root (now called Kellogg Brown & Root, or KBR) is a subsidiary of Halliburton Corporation, which Cheney, the U.S. vice president, headed as CEO from 1995 to 1999. Brown & Root was also awarded contracts in 1995 and 1997 to provide logistical support in the Balkans, where the U.S. military has been enforcing the 1995 Dayton Peace accord that ended the war in former Yugoslavia. Those contracts mushroomed to $2.2 billion worth of payments over five years, according to the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of Congress.
http://www.zwnews.com/warbusiness.doc
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