Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

$3-trillion fake federal bank notes seized from 2 Britons

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:29 PM
Original message
$3-trillion fake federal bank notes seized from 2 Britons
$3-trillion fake federal bank notes seized from 2 Britons
By Evelyn Macairan
The Philippine Star 04/22/2005

The National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) announced yesterday the arrest of two British nationals who were caught in possession of $3-trillion fake US federal bank notes in an entrapment operation.

Charges of forgery and illegal possession of bank notes were filed against Paul Edward John Flavell and Sam Beany, both residents of the CEO Apartments located on Jupiter street, Makati City.

Manuel Eduarte, head agent of the NBI Anti-Graft Division said charges against the suspects were filed before the Makati City Prosecutor’s Office last April 15. The two were granted temporary liberty after they each posted P16,000 bail last Tuesday.

However, NBI Director Reynaldo Wycoco said he has coordinated with the Bureau of Immigration and requested that the two suspects be included in its watchlist.

more
http://www.philstar.com/philstar/News200504226302.htm

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:31 PM
Response to Original message
1. I wonder how authentic the bank notes looked?
I mean 3 trillion bucks in forged notes is just sick! :wow:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Here's a picture from another source
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. wow n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:30 AM
Response to Reply #2
13. I think think that abs-cbnnews used the WRONG picture.
The reporter wrote federal reserve notes, but certainly did not mean US currency notes. Rather treasury notes or certificates, in large denominations.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/archives/cat_current_events.html#030345

Strange reporting all around. One report noting 13 boxes in one iron box(each of the 13 contaning 50 notes), another noting several iron boxes. Go figure.

I think it sounds like $100,000 certificates? That would be fifty iron boxes, each with 13 * 50 certificates. A better guess might be million dollar certificates in five iron boxes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:36 PM
Response to Original message
4. That is a big operation.
Edited on Thu Apr-21-05 06:37 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
If I were an investigator, I would be looking into:

1. Who are their known associates?

2. Where have they traveled to/from in the last year.

3. Is that their real names?

But I am sure someone already is doing so.

On edit: Zurich. Curiouser and curiouser.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
5. Thinking ahead!
Those dudes are just thinking ahead.

They could be planning to come to the US in two or three years, and by then $3 trillion ought to just about cover the dinner check!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #5
16. Yeah, or a tank of gas! (nt)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
6. Aww. Now we know where those IOU's were stashed.
All kidding aside. Nothing surprises me anymore. Now, that's truly sad!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 06:57 PM
Response to Original message
7. 3 trillion at a hundred dollars a pop?
That is a hell of a lot of paper currency...

This is 87 billion single dollar bills...?


It is 100 feet tall, 250 feet long, and 125 feet wide. A stack of singles would be 28,998,000 feet, or over 5,492 miles, or a round-trip between Washington DC and Los Angeles, California. (2,650 miles, one-way).

or...

$1 billion is one thousand million dollars or $1,000,000,000.

A four-inch stack of dollar bills amounts to $1000. A billion dollars would be a stack of dollar bills 62.5 miles high. (President Reagan used a similar illustration back in 1981. He was talking about thousand-dollar bills and trillions, but that was before he added the second trillion to the national debt.)
http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/search.php?display_article=vn167billioned

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 04:18 AM
Response to Reply #7
9. It is somewhat excessive...
It's gotta to be virtually impossible to spend or deposit that amount of cash (even in a Swiss bank account).

I mean, that is more money than used in most of the world's economies. Is it a typo or not US dollars?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ugarte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-21-05 09:00 PM
Response to Original message
8. I tried to pass a $3-trillion note once at Wal-Mart
and the jerky kid said he didn't have change.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
D-Notice Donating Member (820 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:44 AM
Response to Original message
10. From Whatreallyhappened.com
Note that this isn't the bank notes you have in your pocket, but federal bank reserve certificates. IMHO someone was getting ready to trigger a banking system collapse.
(No link sorry it's just their comment on the front page)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #10
12. The other possibility is some billion/billion confusion.
In older British English usage, a "billion" is 1,000,000,000,000 (what Americans call a "trillion".)

1,000,000,000 (an "American billion"), by comparison was called a "milliard".

Perhaps somewhere along the way someone slipped up on this.

Tesha
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Festivito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:55 AM
Response to Reply #12
15. If old English trillion used. 3T$ would be 50-billion X the US 1934 GDP.
Even the lower American trillion puts this amount of borrowing laughably high. 1934 GDP 66B$. These notes, 3000B$.

The old English trillion would be the American quintillion. 18 zeros. The current GDP is only 11.7T$, Amrican trillions. Eleven followed by 12 zeros.

These forgers must be better at execution of art than thought.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 06:49 AM
Response to Original message
11. So they let these guys out on bail?
I hope they didn't pay in cash.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 08:31 AM
Response to Original message
14. This what happens when you hire a printer with OCD
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 09:08 AM
Response to Original message
17. CEO....Jupiter Street??????Maybe astrology freaks thinkin' they'd
got lucky?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-22-05 10:00 AM
Response to Original message
18. Weird mathematics involved here
The NBI recovered from Flavell and Beany a metal scroll and fake US federal bank reserves totaling $3 trillion, which were contained in an iron chest.

There were 13 boxes in the chest, each containing 50 reserve notes that amounted to $1 billion.

Eduarte said the notes were definite forgeries since the biggest amount the US government came out with was in the denomination of $10,000.


If that means that there were a total of 13 * 50 = 650 reserve notes, then if the value was $3 trillion, the average value of a note was about $5 billion.

Who the hell thought they would be able to pass a fake $5 billion note?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 07:41 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC