Reply #207: You're welcome. Jones got on the radar of the Russians because he opposed invading Iran.

[freshwest]

There were a lot of people driven to distraction during the Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld reign of terror because they couldn't stop the wars and couldn't get anyone elected because of electoral fraud. We were hit and hit hard in a million ways from the coup of 2000.

Those seeking to find an answer, any answer at all to why the heck all of this was all this happening, why protests and other tools didn't do any good, looked to alternatives such as internet radio stations and stumbled onto Alex Jones. I found him while talking to people online hoping to see either Kucinich or Gravel do well in the primaries. But they were shut out just as Paul was and all their supporters began to feel they were only going to be nominally represented. The discontent was larger than party boundaries.

Ron Paul was so opposed to wars abroad, that for a while he was even beginning to look good to some Dems. Anything, anything at all, to stop the soul-rendering agony of seeing what was being done in our names. And to find the answer to why America was now openly endorsing torture and disregarding habeas corpus, etc.

In the Vietnam War years, the MSM was much different. They covered protests and we had non-corporate owned debates, the Fairness Doctrine and had an FCC that vigorously enforced the rules against media monopoly. There was balance. The last of that balance was destroyed in the final days of the Bush administration by Colin Powell's son as head of the FCC. There were hearings across the country where well-informed people spoke against letting go of the last vestiges of regulation of consolidation. They were ignored, and it's gotten worse than ever.

It is the reason why people are seeking their news from other sources, because the MSM is only giving us a left and right that are trapped within a corporate box, never really allowing those questions people yelled at the television, their voice and their concerns never being answered.

What we found in opposing Bush, was that we were invivsible to MSM and thus the world. People abroad now believe that we all supported whatever he did, after all, we who opposed the crimes commited by Bush are invisible. We were not invisible before an imperfect, but more honest media was in place in here.

People around the globe came to see all Americans willing to behave like savages abroad, no matter what we were told at home. It was obvious that the American ideals, of freedom of speech, equality and any others one might hold dear, could never be applied to any of our actions. Those notions are universal, yet we had expressed them and people sought to emulate them and our government across the globe. Now we are the world's pariah. The election of Obama gave people hope that we would once again return to the path of truth and justice and I give him credit for not invading Iran, because we surely would have if the GOP was in the White House now, even though many are unhappy with Obama for not being able to fulfill all his promises.

He wanted Gitmo closed, and people hate him for that, but if they looked a little further, they'd realize that course of action required funding. Because he wanted him to come to the USA to be tried under our laws and under our protections. Some may not remember the RW furor over his daring to suggest such a thing. His move to get their confinement awaiting trial could not get funding form the GOP in Congress.

IMHO, Obama inherited and cannot get out from under most of what Bush did. And if he is a puppet, than there is no reason to hate him. Reserve that for the ones holding the strings, and remember that he is a human being, just like any of us. I would not want the job. Part of this is what is being reflected in the comments of those calling Obama a puppet with outrage. But Bush was called a puppet, too. But who was pulling the strings?

Seeking for the answer to that question is going to lead the USA and the world to some remarkably unconventional conclusions. WE live in a time that is allowing us to find the answers to things which a thousand generations of human being had no clue.