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Tue Dec-21-10 01:39 PM
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| -SIGN the DailyKos/Merkley/Udall PETITION: Tell Senators--make the filibuster real! |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 01:06 PM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Dec-21-10 01:08 PM |
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Done |
lamp_shade |
Dec-21-10 01:16 PM |
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Done. |
aquart |
Dec-21-10 01:23 PM |
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Done. |
jwirr |
Dec-21-10 01:39 PM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-21-10 01:41 PM |
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No, Don't! We'll likely be in the minority in 2 years, and will need it. This creates precedent |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 01:50 PM |
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IF the repubs take control in 2012 THEY can change the rules TOO. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 01:58 PM |
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This makes it MUCH easier. |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:03 PM |
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Have the republicans 'promised' not to change the rules when they take the Senate? |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:08 PM |
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No, but it's still taboo. Again, the cost/benefits don't add up - we should've done this in 01/09 |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:14 PM |
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There is A LOT to gain |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:17 PM |
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Udall is one of the guys who also want to cut Social Security and entitlements. Check the board. |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:26 PM |
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We had to agree to give up the Goodwin Liu & 3 other liberal nominations in order to get the 19 |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:44 PM |
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I read that article. Isn't that the way these deals normally are made? |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:56 PM |
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I wouldn't call it horsetrading, the GOP was holding ALL nominees hostage. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:06 PM |
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Part of a bigger deal - which is why I am very leery of this "reform" |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 03:15 PM |
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Senator Claire McCaskill has been working for over a year to get rid of the 'secret holds' rule |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:24 PM |
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Btw... |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:37 PM |
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You don't need to change Senate Rules to stop "procedural filibusters". |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:11 PM |
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Please do tell us how. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:14 PM |
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OK No problem: |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:29 PM |
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n/t |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:38 PM |
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And there's NO WAY that we'll lose the Senate in the next election. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 01:59 PM |
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Surely, there's some irony in that statement? |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:04 PM |
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A must read: Here's a link below tons of info regarding the dem's defilibuster reform |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:10 PM |
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Senate Dems can easily halt Republican "procedural filibusters" Just stop the "dual-track" practice! |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:22 PM |
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Please explain what those terms mean. Thnx. |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:27 PM |
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Which ones? If you haven't, please read the full articles. That should help. |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:30 PM |
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Requires "unanimous consent or agreement of the Minority Leader" to dual-track |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:37 PM |
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To end "dual-track" which is what is being proposed, you do not |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:43 PM |
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Yes. I see how easy it would be for the Majority to put an end to it - but then a filibuster |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:53 PM |
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The 60 vote rule is a Senate 'rule'. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:57 PM |
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Yes. We want Republicans forced to tie-up the Senate with real filibusters |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:02 PM |
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Three of the proposals of the reform are.... |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:10 PM |
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I would support anything that makes the filibuster more effective if we lose the Senate in '12 |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 03:22 PM |
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Lots of info on the link below |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:32 PM |
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I'm not attacking those proposals but we both know that the next Senate won't pass those new rules. |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:24 PM |
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I beleive The Senate WILL pass new rules in January, because ... |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:28 PM |
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Dual Track will NOT affect the need to still have 60 votes for cloture. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:56 PM |
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But, you think there will be 51 votes in January for all those changes? |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 03:00 PM |
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Are Senator Reid and President Obama campaigning for these changes? |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:12 PM |
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Read the articles. Senator Reid does not need the Republican minority leaders agreement .... |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:07 PM |
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Done. |
Eric J in MN |
Dec-21-10 02:30 PM |
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done |
Luciferous |
Dec-21-10 03:24 PM |
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Bump :) n/t |
Tx4obama |
Dec-22-10 08:28 PM |
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