Reply #9: Exactly.. In a perverse sort of way, all the "family" shit is part of Vegas "troubles"

[SoCalDem]

About a decade or so ago, someone" decided that Vegas needed to be "family-friendly", and all/most of the hotels & resorts there started catering to the family business, then came the NO-SMOKING nannies, and although we don't go there more than a couple of times a year, we could see a real difference.

Places that you used to NEVER just walk right in & get seated, had lots of empty tables, the casinos were not all that crowded, except in the smoking sections..

Over the years, the no-smoking sections seem to have gotten smaller (at the places we go), but there has been a lot fewer tourists going there.

Of course all these "changes" happened to coincide with the growth of casinos elsewhere, but when Vegas tried to be Gambling Disneyland, a lot of the adult crowd found other things to do and other places to go.,

We are close enough so that lots of people used to decide on a whim to have Grandma watch the kids & they would scurry off to Vegas for a weekend..Not so much after the family thing.. My friend said it best.."Why should we give our kids a weekend at Grandmas, so we could drive 400 miles & spend our weekend with other people's kids?"

Kids have never been allowed in the casinos, so that did not change, but what did change was that in all the restaurants & hallways & pools, there they were (abandoned by their gambler parents) running around ..

Vegas hotels do have babysitting services, but I did not see evidence that they were very useful.