Reply #20: That is why it is imperative to one up him.

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If they can show they are willing to shoulder the same burdens as the tax paying public but just want to keep their collective bargaining then they will win the argument any which way you look at it.

When things get better, then they can use collective bargaining to build things up again.

Honestly I'm just thinking strategically. I'm for unions that help their people keep pace with the rest of society if they are subject to mistreatment. But they need to be reasonable too.

You know how bad things may get. Holding state workers separate from the trials and tribulations of everyone else will not gain support. Yet I understand the union impulse to not want to give up anything. It is a fighters mentality and works well if it improves fairness.

The problem with accepting the current deal is it still seems great in comparison to everyone else.