Reply #10: I'm talking about the casual "fan club" of filmgoers

[Leopolds Ghost]

I once attended a showing of one Moore's more recent films and Moore was in attendance. I got to ask him a question about unions vs. management and he (and the audience) derided me for it. Basically saying unions would never be allowed to operate without management, or management opposition. we have always been at war with the bosses, we will always be at war with the bosses. Never mind that one of the reasons unions work in Europe is because everyone can join. A lot of people in the "committed activist" group of Moore supporters (some of whom are my friends) seem set in their worldview... but they don't see how they are being influenced and jerked around by the mainstream media (opposing one thing today, something else the next) and when all their friends say that Individual Mandate is under attack from the GOP, then by golly individual mandate must be a good thing. I remember when Moore made a similar argument during the health care debate, he was waffling back and forth on the issue trying to find the position where he could stand most in opposition to the GOP, rather than finding a principled position and sticking to it. I respect his films, and his willingness to take on Bush's "un-involvement in preventing" Fahrenheit 9-11, but when he injects a specific thesis into his films I often find his position to be a mix of truisms and whatever position is conveniently "oppositional" to the status quo. Just my personal opinion. :blush: