Reply #33: There are legal means for serving arrest warrents and capturing fugitives, or

[scentopine]

do you advocate using the military to shoot predator drones at citizens, even if it kills dozens of people in a plurality of misses?

Is this your idea of constitutional justice?

1. CIA reports to president that a person who is "bad" based on secret evidence.

2. Obama says, well then, seems clear to me, take him out.

3. The military launches targeted strikes with predator drones in an indiscriminate killing spree of civilians until the guy has been blown up.

4. Then, all data relating to the murder is classified.

Or is it OK to bomb and assassinate people only in impoverished countries where Americans don't give a shit who gets slaughtered in the process?

We have a legal process that involves issuing arrest warrants that are part of public record. That's what makes us better than say, Afghanistan. That process exists even for suspects who are fugitives.

The reason this information is available is so the accountability is there to prevent abuse of power, say by someone who murders a good person who just happened to be bidding or protesting a lucrative oil contract that might interfere with Exxon's right to have unrestricted access to oil in every country.

If the CIA and President say that person was murdered by a predator drone because he had weapons of mass destruction, then we could see that there was a big lie involved and at a minimum use that as information to not vote for that candidate or the party.

Ideally, you would like to know that the president was giving out a sack of lies before the 200,000 to 1,000,000 people are slaughtered, but of course, we shouldn't be purists, right? So, we settle for postmortem justice. And make are choices based on that.

When the Obama justice department uses the military to kill citizens and keeps all the information secret, that is just more proof that Obama is comfortable with fascism, just as Bush was. There continues to be little difference that matters between the two right wingers, Bush and Obama - they are twins, although Obama may be better looking in a swim suit.

The moral hazard threshold has again been crossed by democrats who want to be Reagan republicans except that the tea party now calls Reagan a liberal so there is no place for them except in the more moderate republican wing of the democratic party where they spew immoral bullshit defending torture and the suspension of fair trial.

You killed a man, that man set back constitutional safe guards for 300 million people by more than 250 years. Who do you think was victorious?

Right wingers on both sides of this conflict are bombing us back to the 1700s.

Just because it may be inconvenient to capture someone based on constitutional law, doesn't mean you get to do it some other way.

Chalk this one up to the cowardly terror state by people too weak to uphold justice and the rule of law.

Meanwhile on Wall Street, no fear that our military will be used to punish the sons of bitches profiting from these wars and bank fraud and insider trading and mortgage fraud.

Maybe we need to move Wall Street to Afghanistan. Then, by Obama's rules, it would be OK to take out criminal CEOs with predator drones.