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Wed Sep-21-11 03:26 PM
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| 81. And ONCE AGAIN, you provide nothing in terms of evidence. |
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THERE IS NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE AGAINST TROY DAVIS. Neither you, nor your buddy have been able to come up with one iota. You keep linking to the judge's ruling, yet you provide absolutely no specific reference to evidence. Are you so bloodthirsty that you don't need actual evidence to send someone to their death? There have been dozens of requests for actual physical evidence against Troy Davis and you haven't provided a damned thing. Leave your bloodlust to yourself. There are people here who actually have consciences.
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| -Jesus.... I Believe That The Execution Of Troy Davis Is A Political Act, And NOT An Act Of Justice |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:09 AM |
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that is because you don't know the facts of the case... n/t |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 09:11 AM |
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And what exactly are the facts? Why would a request for a polygraph be denied? |
Parker CA |
Sep-21-11 09:14 AM |
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you can look up the facts for yourself... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 09:21 AM |
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And You Would Put Davis To Death When There Is So Much Doubt ??? |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:27 AM |
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I am gving the link to the Moore ruling--I don't think there's much doubt. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:02 PM |
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So... We're Gonna Kill A Guy Because He Didn't Follow Proper Protocol ??? |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 03:34 PM |
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And she seems to have no problem with that. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:35 PM |
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Actually, I and the other lawyer on the thread are anti-DP. But Troy Davis |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 05:00 PM |
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Sickening. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 05:03 PM |
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It's easy defending the innocent. Tougher to stand with the guilty |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 05:23 PM |
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Can you point to any evidence that he's guilty? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 05:26 PM |
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I can lead you to rulings, but I can't make you read them. His guilt doesn't change your stance |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 05:34 PM |
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once more slowly just for you I read it |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 05:40 PM |
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do you want courts to accept unsworn, uncrossed evidence? |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:59 PM |
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No. But I also don't want them to accept testimony that has been contradicted |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:03 PM |
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This Case Makes A Mockery Of "Due Process", Capital Punishment, And OUR ENTIRE JUSTICE SYSTEM !!! |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 04:58 PM |
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Sadly, Davis had bites at the apple few did. His 2010 hearing was |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 05:29 PM |
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You said "not much doubt" |
Hippo_Tron |
Sep-21-11 05:43 PM |
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"Not much doubt" |
Capitalocracy |
Sep-22-11 09:32 AM |
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A polygraph on its own |
pipi_k |
Sep-21-11 09:34 AM |
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So you're fine with a person being sent to death with ZERO physical evidence against them. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 09:41 AM |
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+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:43 AM |
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yep...ZERO evidence...that's what they had... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 09:43 AM |
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Please provide any physical evidence that you are aware of. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 09:48 AM |
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ALL They Had Was Eye-Witness Accounts |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:51 AM |
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Well, they aren't very credible witnesses. We can't trust that they're telling the truth |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 09:54 AM |
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LOL !!! |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:57 AM |
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No. They had ballistics, which the basis for the current emergency appeal. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:15 PM |
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Ballistics means NOTHING if they can't prove he touched that gun. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:24 PM |
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Because they match those of the other guy he killed |
jberryhill |
Sep-21-11 03:57 PM |
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Troy Davis? You're saying he's been convicted of another homicide? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:02 PM |
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Excuse me, "shot", not killed |
jberryhill |
Sep-21-11 04:06 PM |
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Not Troy Davis. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:07 PM |
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Nobody questions it my ass. This is part of the same damned case. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:21 PM |
#119 |
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Crickets again? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:44 PM |
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Crickets? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 10:14 AM |
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So, you're not even going to bother to make shit up? |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 02:09 PM |
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ahhh...your victory is now complete |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 04:45 PM |
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You seem to be the one who's concerned with winning. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:46 PM |
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'Humani-wutnow?' |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 10:09 PM |
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I suppose I shouldn't be. |
EOTE |
Sep-22-11 09:25 AM |
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It's not about 'victory'. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 09:55 PM |
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Have you changed your mind on this? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 02:35 PM |
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You mean that seven out of nine witnesses |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-21-11 11:53 AM |
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google is yours. Can you produce those recantations? His attorneys couldn't. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 02:50 PM |
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Yes. I can produce a number of them. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 02:59 PM |
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Those aren't recantations. You know why? |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:10 PM |
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But why the hell is he being put to death if that's the SOLE reason he was found guilty? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:15 PM |
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The eyewitness testimony and the ballistics evidence remain legally intact.. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:23 PM |
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And ONCE AGAIN, you provide nothing in terms of evidence. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:26 PM |
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I have repeatedly provided the Moore ruling, which states the evidence on which |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 04:25 PM |
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Are you freaking kidding me? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:27 PM |
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I am not kidding you. You have the ruling. Tell us what you disagree with. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 04:38 PM |
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THERE'S NOTHING TO DISAGREE WITH! |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:41 PM |
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Then you agree with Judge Moore that Troy Davis is guilty of murder. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 05:12 PM |
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Wow You are the opposite of clever |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 05:18 PM |
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Let me provide your logic here: |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:50 PM |
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There's nothing to dispute because the judge cites absolutely nothing of substance. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:29 PM |
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The judge said nothing of substance? Dear me. I thought his analysis of Herrera |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 04:48 PM |
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So once again you pass up on the opportunity to provide even a shred of evidence. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:51 PM |
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I can lead you to rulings, but I can't make you read them. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 05:43 PM |
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I read the ruling, you haven't. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 05:51 PM |
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OK. So the ballistics evidence shows that the cop was killed with a .38. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:27 PM |
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How do you explain his other conviction? |
jberryhill |
Sep-21-11 03:58 PM |
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What other conviction? NT |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:02 PM |
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For shooting Michael Cooper |
jberryhill |
Sep-21-11 04:05 PM |
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This is part of the same damned case. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:08 PM |
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A lot of things matter to me |
jberryhill |
Sep-21-11 04:40 PM |
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I, too have consistently opposed the death penalty. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:43 PM |
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Because the discussion of Troy Davis' guilt is irrelevant |
jberryhill |
Sep-21-11 05:27 PM |
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I agree that the death penalty is extremely flawed and can't be fixed. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 06:56 PM |
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There will be no facts forthcoming. There never are. |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 09:24 AM |
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bullshit... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 09:26 AM |
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Oh, would that be the judge who says the witnesses aren't credible? |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 09:29 AM |
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Hmmm. I wonder when the witnesses weren't credible |
socialist_n_TN |
Sep-21-11 09:57 AM |
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Judge Moore said the recantations weren't credible because the defense attorneys didn't call the |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 02:53 PM |
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That still isn't evidence. The poster claims there were things about the trial we didn't know. |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 03:58 PM |
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The first 60 pages of the ruling outline the evidence against him.Rr |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 04:31 PM |
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And for some damned reason, you can't even specify what that evidence is. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:34 PM |
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If it outlines the evidence, then why is it so hard for anyone to explain what that evidence is? |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 04:37 PM |
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Surely providing a link is enough, right? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:39 PM |
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And judges are never wrong... |
ceile |
Sep-21-11 09:30 AM |
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Yep. That would be those "facts". n/t |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 09:31 AM |
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Wow... Were You At The Reagan Library Recently ??? |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:31 AM |
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Your position is not rational. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 09:53 AM |
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Why would it be denied? Please. |
Zax2me |
Sep-21-11 03:47 PM |
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Because they'd look even fucking worse when he passes it. NT |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:57 PM |
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The facts are irrelevant, an innocent person may be executed as long as due process was followed |
bananas |
Sep-21-11 09:20 AM |
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and let's also have mindless 'cogs' |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 09:27 AM |
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Yep. We're all a bunch of idiots.. |
ceile |
Sep-21-11 09:29 AM |
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That's right. The information is 'out there somewhere'. If we can't find it, that's our problem. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 02:07 PM |
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Yes... Please Fill Us In On "The Facts" |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:22 AM |
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ahhh...the wiki-source... |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 09:25 AM |
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Be as condescending as you want. |
ceile |
Sep-21-11 09:28 AM |
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K&R. People should look at the actual record rather than using |
COLGATE4 |
Sep-21-11 09:38 AM |
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That makes absolutely no sense. |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 09:45 AM |
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And actually... |
pipi_k |
Sep-21-11 10:00 AM |
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Exaclty. It doesn't give any weight to the claim that there was evidence. |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 10:11 AM |
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It does make sense. when you have sworn and crossed testimony, and then a recant |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 02:55 PM |
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Oh, well. Of course, you go with the former and ignore the latter |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 04:06 PM |
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I'm not disagreeing with your frustration. Merely explaining how courts work. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 04:34 PM |
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No, that's not what you were doing. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:36 PM |
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Well, yeah. How our courts work is a darn good reason to ditch the death penalty. |
Pithlet |
Sep-21-11 04:39 PM |
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I don't disagree that the DP should be done away with. But I don't think Davis is |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 05:26 PM |
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It's Called Reasonable Doubt... And There Is Plenty Of It In This Case... |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 09:48 AM |
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Low standards of proof and participation should be an embarrassment |
loyalsister |
Sep-21-11 10:21 AM |
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Yet the facts prove you are clueless. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 10:00 AM |
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Actually it looks like a lack of evidence is what's driving |
pipi_k |
Sep-21-11 10:19 AM |
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Then post the goods. You're not looking too credible right now. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 11:49 AM |
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Hey! I have a 'yes/no' question for you to run away from! |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 02:16 PM |
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so are you saying that Jimmy Carter and the former head of the FBI |
Bluerthanblue |
Sep-21-11 04:05 PM |
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the facts don't point to mr davis as the killer |
spanone |
Sep-21-11 11:57 AM |
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I've been following this case for over four years. I know there is no physical evidence, just |
Puregonzo1188 |
Sep-21-11 04:02 PM |
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Can Obama stop this execution? |
realFedUp |
Sep-21-11 09:15 AM |
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My thought exactly |
sellitman |
Sep-21-11 09:25 AM |
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The president |
polmaven |
Sep-21-11 10:24 AM |
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Did he approach the Prosecutor then? |
sellitman |
Sep-22-11 12:16 PM |
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This would be political suicide to even entertain this idea |
taught_me_patience |
Sep-21-11 05:17 PM |
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+1 |
my2sense |
Sep-21-11 09:16 AM |
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We should have learned our lesson after Texas (under Rick Perry's watch) executed an innocent man... |
LAGC |
Sep-21-11 09:19 AM |
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Name removed |
Sep-21-11 09:31 AM |
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. |
Iggo |
Sep-21-11 09:35 AM |
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yes, because I read something from the judge that convinces me he's guilty |
ProdigalJunkMail |
Sep-21-11 09:38 AM |
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In the death penalty, there's a HUGE burden put on the prosecution. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 09:55 AM |
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Let's see it then. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 10:02 AM |
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Evidence is so passe. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 10:06 AM |
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Last I knew... |
pipi_k |
Sep-21-11 10:08 AM |
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What was that something that you read? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 10:17 AM |
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That was Cameron Todd Willingham. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 09:50 AM |
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Esp the Parole Board: They are appointees and they had discretion to commute the sentence |
aikoaiko |
Sep-21-11 10:20 AM |
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i think jesus would agree with you...look what they did to him. |
madrchsod |
Sep-21-11 10:34 AM |
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thinking alike |
newspeak |
Sep-21-11 11:13 AM |
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Kick. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 11:09 AM |
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ProdigalJunkMail assertions regarding this case are not credible. |
shireen |
Sep-21-11 12:00 PM |
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Oh yes, I know this. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 12:37 PM |
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That won't ever happen. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 02:18 PM |
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It's a time-dishonored tactic of disinformationists. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 02:05 PM |
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here's the ruling--PJM's assertions are indeed correct. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 02:59 PM |
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In no way are they correct. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:02 PM |
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Of course there's physical evidence--his attorney's are challenging it, right now, for a stay. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:13 PM |
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Wouldn't you need to prove that Troy Davis actually, you know, used the gun first? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:16 PM |
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You don't need ballistics to prove someone handled a gun. nt |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:29 PM |
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Stop being so damned obtuse. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:31 PM |
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the prosecution proved he used the murder weapon on the cop. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 04:12 PM |
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No they didn't. And if you truly believe that, SHOW US. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:14 PM |
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Zero physical evidence. You are horribly wrong. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:34 PM |
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No murder weapon nor any DNA were recovered from the scene. |
EFerrari |
Sep-21-11 03:37 PM |
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Well, ballistics evidence points to the cop most likely being shot by a man. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:39 PM |
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what you describe is physical evidence. |
msanthrope |
Sep-21-11 03:53 PM |
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Did you even read what you had responded to? |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:55 PM |
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You are in 'way over your head as usual. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-21-11 04:51 PM |
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Who was the shooter in that other shooting? |
kctim |
Sep-21-11 04:00 PM |
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Most likely one of the 2 remaining witnesses who didn't recant their story. NT |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 04:11 PM |
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Then why was Davis also convicted of that crime? |
kctim |
Sep-22-11 08:44 AM |
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He was railroaded for that crime so they could pin the other crime on him. |
EOTE |
Sep-22-11 09:29 AM |
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Wow, I hadn't read that he was "railroaded" for the first crime |
kctim |
Sep-22-11 11:23 AM |
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Same way they pinned the other one on him. |
EOTE |
Sep-22-11 01:59 PM |
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Never mind. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:40 PM |
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thank you. |
shireen |
Sep-22-11 03:58 PM |
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Totally agree.... |
WCGreen |
Sep-21-11 02:18 PM |
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It's murder. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-21-11 02:36 PM |
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How is this a political act when the case has made it to the |
Skidmore |
Sep-21-11 03:29 PM |
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Because the Supreme Court is never political, right? |
EFerrari |
Sep-21-11 03:38 PM |
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LOL !!! - MOST Of Politics Is Cover Your Ass... |
WillyT |
Sep-21-11 03:43 PM |
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His DEFENSE is political. Execution justice. Or, justice as our system sees it. |
Zax2me |
Sep-21-11 03:46 PM |
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NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE!!! |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 03:49 PM |
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killing a person will NEVER restore the life of anyone. |
Bluerthanblue |
Sep-21-11 04:17 PM |
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The whole damn system is guilty! |
countryjake |
Sep-21-11 04:42 PM |
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"Could not possibly care less" -- You don't care that there is a possibility a man will be murdered |
Arugula Latte |
Sep-21-11 07:04 PM |
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So it would be ok with you for the state to put you to death, |
The Doctor. |
Sep-21-11 10:24 PM |
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Totally. Just finished reading John Grisham's "The Confession." |
Atman |
Sep-21-11 04:31 PM |
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We're probably not getting all the facts of the case. |
taught_me_patience |
Sep-21-11 05:15 PM |
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The facts are that he was convicted with zero physical evidence. |
EOTE |
Sep-21-11 06:51 PM |
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How many times do I have to say this? Execution is NOT justice. |
flvegan |
Sep-21-11 10:26 PM |
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...and it doesn't prevent crime either. |
Lex |
Sep-22-11 01:13 PM |
#173 |