Reply #58: Well, wiki don't gots the whole story...if you get around in indian country today

[SpiralHawk]

and talk with Native folks, you will see that "Turtle Island" is by far the most common term for describing North America -- they even speak of it that way down in good old Tsywatsunyo, as you probably guessed.

Wikipedia would hardly be the first choice source for the deep wisdom of Native America. Hello? There have been 500 years of trashing and marginalizing and exterminating not only native people, but the native WAY. Screw wikipedia as an 'authoritative' source for understanding this continent.

Now as for 'Island' part that you fail to grasp, you need to think BIG.

AtlantiHa went under the swirling seas, and the people went in the West direction until they found the Island shaped like a Turtle. So it has been passed down -- with impeccable reliability -- for the Human Beings.

If you cannot see the turtle, the problem is your myopia -- not the wisdom of the ancestors, or our contemporary Relations.