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Edited on Mon Sep-05-11 11:07 PM by MrMickeysMom
Like, for instance, never taking seriously, zero jobs created and the interests on bonds.... Hey, the WH has been kissing the ass of Wall Street and the GOP... and still we have the unemployed. I love that Krugman said, And somehow the private sector hasn’t responded to these layoffs by rejoicing at the sight of a shrinking government and embarking on a hiring spree. Silly ole White House! Edit: I actually had "GOD" instead of "GOP"! Hey, they are most likely worshiped the same way by the Silly President and all his Cabinet. |
| -White House calls environmentalists "ridiculous," "silly," and not "serious" -equates them to GOPers |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 11:13 AM |
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What's so difficult about being honest and not playing dumb as grits word games? |
cali |
Sep-05-11 11:15 AM |
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Dumb as grits? |
Are_grits_groceries |
Sep-05-11 02:04 PM |
#56 |
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Well said. The OP is nothing but an overt misrepresentation. |
kristopher |
Sep-05-11 05:49 PM |
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Then why dont you straighten us out? Tell us why Obama turned on the environmentalists? |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 05:59 PM |
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What you said. |
ChairmanAgnostic |
Sep-05-11 06:30 PM |
#134 |
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Get a grip on reality |
kristopher |
Sep-05-11 06:30 PM |
#135 |
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No way. You were not specific. You did not counter anything the OP said. If you have a counter |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 07:47 PM |
#144 |
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Evidently, the mission of denial never includes actual debate .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 07:59 PM |
#149 |
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People can deny all sorts of shit, despite mountains of unassailable evidence. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
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Awesome!!... |
SidDithers |
Sep-06-11 07:16 AM |
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+1 |
Divine Discontent |
Sep-06-11 12:10 AM |
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Show me where The White House "called environmentalists" any of those things. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:00 PM |
#150 |
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Maybe the wording was to subtle for you. But the article was very clear that the Repubs were happy |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 08:08 PM |
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The wording was "to" subtle for me? Yeah, I must be a real moron not "too" understand it. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:13 PM |
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The quote's in the OP. (nt) |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:32 PM |
#218 |
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Yeah, you're right, there's a quote in the OP. Which says nothing remotely resembling that. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 02:01 AM |
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Do I seriously have to diagram that sentence for you? |
jeff47 |
Sep-06-11 07:47 AM |
#256 |
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There's an attack in there. But the OP is a total misrepresentation of what was said. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 01:32 PM |
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There IS no such thing as a "job-killing regulation" |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:46 AM |
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Actually there is, but nothing in the current realm of policy discussions would qualify. |
kristopher |
Sep-06-11 04:54 AM |
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When and how did he "turn on the environmentalits"? |
The Doctor. |
Sep-05-11 08:49 PM |
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You dont have to get nasty. The information is in the OP and the linked article. |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 11:30 PM |
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Too many times, I've found that one gets nothing and nowhere by being 'nice'. |
The Doctor. |
Sep-06-11 02:55 AM |
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It was a right-wing talking point to agree that there is such a thing |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:47 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Sep-05-11 07:39 PM |
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Absolutely! |
im1013 |
Sep-05-11 07:55 PM |
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+1000% -- on BOTH points -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
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do you have a link to that quote? |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:05 PM |
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Tell us how YOU feel about Obama's decision on this. I dare you. nm |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 08:09 PM |
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I just did. I'll do it again. I'm not happy about it. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 08:14 PM |
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Wrong. Sunstein's comments were nothing but an overt misrepresentation. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:36 PM |
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No it isn't. |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:44 AM |
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It's honestly wrong to for a Democratic president EVER to equate |
Ken Burch |
Sep-06-11 12:42 AM |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Sep-10-11 02:31 AM |
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Good points. |
OHdem10 |
Sep-05-11 11:15 AM |
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Nice try. |
Scurrilous |
Sep-05-11 11:16 AM |
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"‘job-killing regulation’ is a redundancy" "‘job-killing regulation’ is an oxymoron” |
Mr Deltoid |
Sep-05-11 11:17 AM |
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Um, maybe he believes that not all regulations are created equal. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 12:56 PM |
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We're not suffering from over-regulation. We're ARE suffering the results of under-regulation. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 01:54 PM |
#52 |
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That is a much better and fairer critique than the one actually made by the OP's link. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
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Thats not what he said. He said there's an equally crazy liberal view, which there isn't. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:16 PM |
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I'm not sure I understand your claim. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:22 PM |
#72 |
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He pretended there is liberal equivalent of the "job-killing regulations" rhetoric. There isn't. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:25 PM |
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excellent |
Claudia Jones |
Sep-05-11 06:05 PM |
#132 |
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+1 |
Muskypundit |
Sep-05-11 03:40 PM |
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But we're equally crazy and dishonest. |
hay rick |
Sep-05-11 05:40 PM |
#123 |
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this is a big victory for the GOP which has scheduled votes targeting more regulation |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 07:24 PM |
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-- big victory for the oil industry --- !! Thanks, Obama -- !!! ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:31 PM |
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hay rick wrote: |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-05-11 08:13 PM |
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I objected to Sunstein's straw man. |
hay rick |
Sep-05-11 09:27 PM |
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You talk like you are reasoning |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-06-11 11:33 AM |
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Good guess. |
hay rick |
Sep-06-11 09:05 PM |
#280 |
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In my previous post I also wrote |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-06-11 09:52 PM |
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NT |
quakerboy |
Sep-05-11 10:31 PM |
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Thank you Dirk |
tgal |
Sep-06-11 12:19 PM |
#274 |
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Global Warming is exactly proof of that -- guess Obama didn't notice ... ???? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:22 PM |
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Try actually reading the NYT article |
Bluesbreaker |
Sep-05-11 04:30 PM |
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I'm not really sure what your point is. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:35 PM |
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"all regulations" good or not good would be .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:58 PM |
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Duplicate. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:35 PM |
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+100000 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:42 PM |
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"Harmful to the economy" -- by any chance have you or Obama noticed Global Warming? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:05 PM |
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I'm strongly in favor of aggressive action to combat climate change. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:29 PM |
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Climate change is something which occurs naturally ... Global Warming is NOT .... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-11 01:51 AM |
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The UN's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was formed in 1988 when Luntz was 16... |
SidDithers |
Sep-06-11 07:28 AM |
#255 |
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I support the more stringent rules on ozone, too. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-06-11 08:41 AM |
#259 |
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Duplicate. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:29 PM |
#215 |
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thanks, i was trying to say that |
certainot |
Sep-06-11 08:05 AM |
#257 |
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maybe that it's not so simplistic? |
MH1 |
Sep-05-11 01:05 PM |
#43 |
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That statement has the appearance of |
Marr |
Sep-05-11 03:22 PM |
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What we need to be doing is saving the planet -- folding corporate/fascism .... !! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:07 PM |
#159 |
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I remember when cost to business was not a factor in environmental regulation |
Mugweed |
Sep-06-11 06:48 AM |
#252 |
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The only people that use "job-killing regulation" in any context have traditionally |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 01:19 PM |
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Anti-marijuana laws are job-killing regulations. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 01:31 PM |
#49 |
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Laws are not regulations. |
former9thward |
Sep-05-11 02:22 PM |
#73 |
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I don't think that distinction really works in this context. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:35 PM |
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utterly untrue |
joshguitar |
Sep-05-11 03:37 PM |
#98 |
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"Make marijuana legal and far more people would lose their jobs ..." |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 06:57 AM |
#253 |
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Bullshit back at you. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 08:46 AM |
#260 |
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Maybe You should reread your own post before criticizing my response. |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 10:31 AM |
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I understood what I said. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 11:35 AM |
#272 |
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You make assertions for which there is no basis in fact. |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 03:22 PM |
#277 |
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Degrees don't mean anything if you don't have common sense. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 04:04 PM |
#278 |
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Well, if relevant degrees, extensive direct experience and the consensus of most researchers ... |
Fly by night |
Sep-06-11 07:57 PM |
#279 |
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If you are curious where I post you can do a search. |
former9thward |
Sep-06-11 09:46 PM |
#281 |
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You asked for it. You got it. |
Fly by night |
Sep-07-11 07:08 AM |
#285 |
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Correct. It's rightwing rhetoric. There IS NO lefty equivalent. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:07 PM |
#59 |
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Agree -- AND, we can live without jobs -- we can't live without the planet -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:08 PM |
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He believes in window dressing, PR regulation that doesn't bother big business. |
Marr |
Sep-05-11 03:18 PM |
#94 |
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Something between the extremes |
creeksneakers2 |
Sep-05-11 08:07 PM |
#160 |
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According to the spokes criter, these terms do not... |
reACTIONary |
Sep-05-11 11:11 PM |
#226 |
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What an idiot. She sounds exactly like the Fox bobbleheads. n/t |
EFerrari |
Sep-05-11 11:19 AM |
#5 |
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Sunstein is the guy who wants to "cognitively infiltrate' conspiracy theorists. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 11:20 AM |
#6 |
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Sick little bastard. |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 11:22 AM |
#9 |
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Dropped onto SCOTUS. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 11:32 AM |
#12 |
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wow, Cass Sustein guest-blogged for paleo-conservative Instapundit |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:12 PM |
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Thankyouverymuch, nashville_brook. Great resource, thar. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 04:09 PM |
#107 |
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I read that before, but did not know who he was. |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 12:29 PM |
#34 |
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A man's got to wear what a man's got to wear. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 03:48 PM |
#101 |
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oh yeah...the thing about govt infiltrating activist groups to increase faith in govt. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 11:23 AM |
#10 |
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Amazing. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 11:49 AM |
#18 |
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so condescending...and why the fear of "ridiculous conspiracy theories" anyway? |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:02 PM |
#24 |
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Yeah, it makes it seem that he is worried about conspiracy in general |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 12:26 PM |
#32 |
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you took the words right out of my head. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:38 PM |
#36 |
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Minds like his always project their intentions |
Rex |
Sep-05-11 02:09 PM |
#60 |
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More like flat out, bugsnot crazy. And we've got him on the payroll? Neato. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 07:53 PM |
#146 |
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Will someone PRIMARY this DINO? |
rasputinkhlyst |
Sep-05-11 04:08 PM |
#105 |
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Why is this guy in the White House? |
tblue |
Sep-05-11 12:26 PM |
#33 |
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The guy the pukes had writin' histeree also is a doozy -- Philip Zelikow. |
Octafish |
Sep-05-11 04:15 PM |
#111 |
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+1000% --- one more infiltrator -- Zelikow -- !! Thank you -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 09:02 PM |
#192 |
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That's incredibly creepy. Is there a rightwing nutwad this WH HASN'T brought to its breast? |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 01:37 PM |
#50 |
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I don't think they've tried to re-legitimize Dick Morris yet. |
Fuddnik |
Sep-05-11 04:06 PM |
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O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , O.M.G. , n/t |
2banon |
Sep-05-11 02:06 PM |
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Reported the same below, before I noticed your post. Kudos for bringing these facts to light! -nt |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 08:29 PM |
#174 |
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Look more like our White House has been "infiltrated" by fascists ..... |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 09:01 PM |
#191 |
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Urecs. Who would have guessed? |
Vanje |
Sep-05-11 11:21 AM |
#7 |
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The right wing plan to continue to do just that |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 01:26 PM |
#47 |
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Nothing wrong with getting in their face |
BeFree |
Sep-05-11 11:21 AM |
#8 |
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Haven't you been paying attention? We are divided. |
Curmudgeoness |
Sep-05-11 11:31 AM |
#11 |
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Oh? |
BeFree |
Sep-05-11 11:48 AM |
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What I am saying is that when you run on a platform |
Curmudgeoness |
Sep-05-11 12:21 PM |
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Sep-05-11 11:33 AM |
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Unrec. Policies are not people... |
SidDithers |
Sep-05-11 11:37 AM |
#14 |
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Yep. nt |
sufrommich |
Sep-05-11 11:49 AM |
#17 |
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It is getting thin |
Vanje |
Sep-05-11 11:50 AM |
#20 |
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+1. word games. |
mopinko |
Sep-05-11 11:53 AM |
#21 |
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Environmentalists wanting to regulate corrupt, planet destroying |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-05-11 12:00 PM |
#23 |
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that sure seems to be the real plan. |
bbgrunt |
Sep-05-11 12:14 PM |
#28 |
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+1 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 12:18 PM |
#29 |
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It appears that the White House |
Enthusiast |
Sep-05-11 04:32 PM |
#116 |
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Who said anything about 'bad'? |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 09:00 PM |
#189 |
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+1 |
Shining Jack |
Sep-06-11 02:24 AM |
#246 |
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Yes. Let's be fair here. The WH said environmentalists' "policies" are silly and unserious. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 01:59 PM |
#54 |
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To the WH "serious"= anything to win the approval of the corporate elite |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 12:53 AM |
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Sep-05-11 05:55 PM |
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Sep-05-11 05:57 PM |
#127 |
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Sep-05-11 06:31 PM |
#136 |
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Yep. That "Rahm said liberals are retards" lie won't die, will it? |
Number23 |
Sep-05-11 07:09 PM |
#138 |
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So you support Obama's decision? The Republicans loved it. |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 08:11 PM |
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K&R |
Pooka Fey |
Sep-05-11 11:41 AM |
#15 |
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K&R |
amborin |
Sep-05-11 11:49 AM |
#19 |
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+1 |
stevedeshazer |
Sep-05-11 11:55 AM |
#22 |
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Sunstein is a scary creep. |
PufPuf23 |
Sep-05-11 12:06 PM |
#25 |
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I am still gobsmacked that Rahm |
zalinda |
Sep-05-11 12:32 PM |
#35 |
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Cass Sunstein. Enough said. |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 12:07 PM |
#26 |
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playing the false equivalency game like so many naive fools after the Tuscon shooting |
alp227 |
Sep-05-11 12:23 PM |
#31 |
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+1 n/t |
LarryNM |
Sep-05-11 10:45 PM |
#222 |
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Emotionally, this make me want to find something better to do on election day.. |
lostnfound |
Sep-05-11 12:44 PM |
#37 |
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Quote does not say what the headline of this thread purports. |
TwilightGardener |
Sep-05-11 12:48 PM |
#38 |
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Sep-05-11 01:02 PM |
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Cass Sunstein is essentially correct, if you actually read what he says. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 12:53 PM |
#39 |
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Which ones are the bad ones? |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 01:20 PM |
#45 |
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Many licensing regulations are probably excessively burdensome. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 01:30 PM |
#48 |
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I guess my problem is we were just plunged into a mini depression |
mmonk |
Sep-05-11 01:48 PM |
#51 |
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But now you're arguing with the Republican Party, not with me. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:11 PM |
#61 |
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I agree. |
Enthusiast |
Sep-05-11 04:38 PM |
#118 |
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The whole comparison is a strawman. No one on the left spouts the equivalent of "job killing |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:12 PM |
#63 |
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exactly. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-05-11 02:51 PM |
#87 |
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PLUS ONE!.......nt |
Enthusiast |
Sep-05-11 04:41 PM |
#119 |
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+100000000 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:43 PM |
#180 |
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so, it was a "mistake" to protect americans from smog? |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 02:17 PM |
#70 |
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No. Specifics are a different matter. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 02:24 PM |
#74 |
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Sunstein's false equivalency creates an environment where specifics don't matter |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 03:14 PM |
#92 |
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Sunstein's obviously true statement makes the precise point that specifics matter. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 03:18 PM |
#93 |
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please explain how undermining advocacy for regulation improves the ability to regulate |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 03:42 PM |
#100 |
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Some regulations are desired by industry |
DissedByBush |
Sep-05-11 02:30 PM |
#79 |
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There was nothing "knee jerk" about this. Environmentalists have been working on these regulations |
rhett o rick |
Sep-05-11 06:01 PM |
#130 |
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+1. It's what Americablog does...nt |
SidDithers |
Sep-05-11 02:06 PM |
#58 |
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No he is creating a false equivalency. |
Warren Stupidity |
Sep-05-11 02:50 PM |
#86 |
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No, Republicans don't actually claim that any more than liberals claim the opposite. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:15 PM |
#110 |
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So....been hiding under a rock? |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 09:24 PM |
#198 |
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Obviously Republicans think business is over-regulated. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:17 PM |
#209 |
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So, "No, Republicans don't actually claim that" was just a keyboard spasm then? (nt) |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:19 PM |
#210 |
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No. Different statements. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:26 PM |
#214 |
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Yet that's not what they are claiming. |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:31 PM |
#216 |
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Thank you. Would that I had managed to say this so clearly & concisely. / thread. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:05 PM |
#193 |
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Show me one person on the Left who says that. |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-05-11 04:10 PM |
#108 |
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Show me one person on the Right who says that all regulations are bad. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 04:13 PM |
#109 |
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Good point. So a double-false equivalence. However... |
MannyGoldstein |
Sep-05-11 05:49 PM |
#125 |
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Not a double false equivalence. |
Unvanguard |
Sep-05-11 10:25 PM |
#212 |
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Can you quote some Republicans who have said that |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-06-11 01:41 AM |
#240 |
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Alan Greenspan. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:44 PM |
#181 |
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Show me one that doesn't use "job killing deregulation" disingenuously to mean, "profit-reducing." |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:07 PM |
#195 |
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How 'bout Daryl Issa and the entire Republican House Caucus? |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 09:25 PM |
#199 |
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Another lie for the brainwashing campaign. nt |
mfcorey1 |
Sep-05-11 01:04 PM |
#42 |
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K&R |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 01:23 PM |
#46 |
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Many here at DU equate lefties of all stripe with Republicans |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 01:57 PM |
#53 |
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What a weird thought inversion that, is eh? Lefties critique Obama, & are therefore Republicans? Er? |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
#65 |
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You have it exactly backward. The White continually bashes the left more than |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 04:06 PM |
#103 |
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I think you understood my post exactly backward. We are addressing two sides of the same coin |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
#152 |
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The White House is counting on the Obama bashing from the left bringing out the vote. |
joshcryer |
Sep-05-11 09:01 PM |
#190 |
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Seems the Obama WH wants a right-wing Congress next time |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 02:02 PM |
#55 |
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It won't bother him. He'll just have to compromise harder with a fully Republican Congress.... |
xocet |
Sep-05-11 02:54 PM |
#89 |
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Job kill regulations? You mean like the ones that cleaned the water we drink and the air we breathe? |
neverforget |
Sep-05-11 02:11 PM |
#62 |
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Summation: Corporations need to destroy plant, nature, humans to create jobs" ... !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 02:16 PM |
#68 |
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+1 it's the humans vs the dollars |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 02:26 PM |
#77 |
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The real irony; more regulation would have provided loads of jobs |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 12:56 AM |
#235 |
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+1 -- |
defendandprotect |
Sep-06-11 01:55 AM |
#242 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
#64 |
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That is a link to a site that promotes 3rd party voting: |
sufrommich |
Sep-05-11 02:44 PM |
#85 |
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And those kind of insults - of your own voters - is offensive |
matt819 |
Sep-05-11 02:14 PM |
#66 |
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A president behaving as if he doesn't care if he wins ... and destroying the party ... hmmm? |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 02:17 PM |
#71 |
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no, they did not call environmentalists all those name you accused them of saying. nt |
seabeyond |
Sep-05-11 02:25 PM |
#75 |
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Yes, in effect he did. He called liberal opposition to "job-killing regulation" talk silly & unser- |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 02:42 PM |
#84 |
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if you have to say.. in effect, then you lose the stand. he did not call environmentalist those |
seabeyond |
Sep-05-11 03:09 PM |
#90 |
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You may have that distinction without difference, if you want it. The OP loses nothing by it. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 07:56 PM |
#148 |
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it does for me. making things up in headlines takes away from the substance. |
seabeyond |
Sep-05-11 08:03 PM |
#154 |
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Nothing was made up. Who did Sunstein mean, if not environmentalists? What was he saying, if not |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:57 PM |
#187 |
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wow, this nails it. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 03:09 PM |
#91 |
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Let's be clear about what corporations are doing -- "killing the planet/humans" -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 07:51 PM |
#145 |
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Well, now... |
chervilant |
Sep-05-11 08:52 PM |
#186 |
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Rahm is gone but his thinking is not |
nadinbrzezinski |
Sep-05-11 02:26 PM |
#78 |
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Now we know it's Obama's thinking |
Hawkowl |
Sep-05-11 03:24 PM |
#97 |
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so you believe that all environmentalists believe |
hfojvt |
Sep-05-11 02:34 PM |
#80 |
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I regret that I only have |
Jamastiene |
Sep-05-11 02:37 PM |
#82 |
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John Aravosis: driving wedges as fast as he can |
struggle4progress |
Sep-05-11 02:38 PM |
#83 |
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Nothing like attacking the messenger rather than the message n/t |
FreeState |
Sep-05-11 05:59 PM |
#129 |
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I find the John Aravosis Show predictable: his magic act involves one trick: "Watch me |
struggle4progress |
Sep-05-11 06:16 PM |
#133 |
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Which has what to do with the actually topic? |
FreeState |
Sep-05-11 09:19 PM |
#197 |
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those are the same silly lefties that said offshore drilling was dangerous |
Enrique |
Sep-05-11 02:53 PM |
#88 |
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Unfair to say the "White House" said that (which is stupid anyway.....not on your part, n_b, but as |
tpsbmam |
Sep-05-11 03:22 PM |
#95 |
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A member of the Obama White House IS The White House |
Doctor_J |
Sep-05-11 04:04 PM |
#102 |
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Amazing how quickly Van Jones was gone. But then, |
sabrina 1 |
Sep-05-11 04:16 PM |
#112 |
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+1 |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 04:50 PM |
#120 |
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+1 n/t |
LarryNM |
Sep-05-11 10:52 PM |
#224 |
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Way to stabilize your base support. |
MoonRiver |
Sep-05-11 04:08 PM |
#106 |
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I hope he fixes that. they've done that shit before |
PatrynXX |
Sep-05-11 04:21 PM |
#113 |
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Do not fuck with this planet |
RedCloud |
Sep-05-11 04:29 PM |
#114 |
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When they fuck with the planet, they fuck with US! |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 12:59 AM |
#237 |
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A reagan democrat administration. |
Jakes Progress |
Sep-05-11 04:53 PM |
#121 |
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No, that's not what they said. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-05-11 05:39 PM |
#122 |
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Truth...not mattering so much here. |
TwilightGardener |
Sep-05-11 06:03 PM |
#131 |
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Technically, the Head of WH Information didn't call out anyone. Because his whole premise is a lie. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:47 PM |
#182 |
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You know what, Dirk? THAT would make a much better OP on the subject than the one up top, here. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 02:04 AM |
#244 |
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Examining the NYT article, not seeing any ad hominem attacks on environmentalists. nt |
Deep13 |
Sep-05-11 07:06 PM |
#137 |
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You won't find what's not there... |
SidDithers |
Sep-05-11 07:18 PM |
#140 |
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Other than a WH official inventing a non-existent leftwing pro-regulation extremism, you mean? |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:12 PM |
#167 |
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There's a lot of dishonest bullshit around, these days. |
Warren DeMontague |
Sep-06-11 02:10 AM |
#245 |
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The criticism is not ad hominem and is directed to one argument... |
Deep13 |
Sep-06-11 10:37 AM |
#267 |
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You can't be serious. Don't you have anything better to do? |
ecstatic |
Sep-06-11 12:21 PM |
#275 |
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More anti-WH fodder from ex-GOP staffer-turned-"Proud Firebagger" Avarosis. |
CakeGrrl |
Sep-05-11 07:12 PM |
#139 |
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"The administration’s clean air agenda has been its greatest success story at EPA." |
ProSense |
Sep-05-11 07:31 PM |
#142 |
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Word games: is job-killing regulation an oxymoron? Chill out. (nt) |
philly_bob |
Sep-05-11 08:02 PM |
#151 |
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Silly is as silly does. A look at Cass Sunstein. Obama's Minister of Information is dangerous.... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 08:06 PM |
#158 |
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This horse's ass is the head of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs? |
tularetom |
Sep-05-11 08:07 PM |
#161 |
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Sunstein was on the short list for Stevens' Supreme Court seat |
nashville_brook |
Sep-05-11 08:40 PM |
#178 |
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If Obama's re-elected, this is the kind of man he would nominate to the USSC ?Jesus wept! |
Divernan |
Sep-06-11 08:08 AM |
#258 |
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Decriminalized torture and wiretaps. Appoints web spy advocate to head Information Office... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 09:19 PM |
#196 |
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Just want to point out WH is also bashing their EPA advisors -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:11 PM |
#166 |
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If an uprising is coming, then certainly we should turn to AA and GLBT for advice -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Sep-05-11 08:20 PM |
#171 |
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K and R |
OwnedByFerrets |
Sep-05-11 08:27 PM |
#173 |
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Your title misquotes what was said |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Sep-05-11 08:32 PM |
#176 |
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The title captures exactly what was said. To lay out Sunstein's whole strawman requires a paragraph. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 08:49 PM |
#183 |
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What part of this quote is misquoted? Here is what I read... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 08:51 PM |
#185 |
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That's not quite what he said -- the POLICIES are silly and have |
gateley |
Sep-05-11 09:06 PM |
#194 |
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Please elaborate the exact policies that you believe are silly and non-serious? |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 09:27 PM |
#201 |
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For the love of God, I'm implying everything is fair and balanced? |
gateley |
Sep-05-11 10:25 PM |
#213 |
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Please elaborate on the exact policies you believe are silly... -nt |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 10:38 PM |
#221 |
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DUPE. Weird. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:30 PM |
#202 |
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The WH Office of Information IS the WH. And the "policies" he called silly don't exist. |
DirkGently |
Sep-05-11 09:30 PM |
#203 |
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To claim the policies have nothing to do with the people is a stupid argument. (nt) |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 09:31 PM |
#204 |
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I'm stupid. nt |
gateley |
Sep-05-11 10:21 PM |
#211 |
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Ok, lesson #1: Inanimate objects can't be "silly" or "unserious". They simply exist. |
jeff47 |
Sep-05-11 10:36 PM |
#220 |
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Rick Perry calls right wing "silly, as bad as left wing, with no place in serious discussions"... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 09:33 PM |
#205 |
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The quote doesn't say what it says it says!!!111 |
JoeyT |
Sep-05-11 09:44 PM |
#206 |
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Regulations only mitigate damages... |
maryf |
Sep-05-11 09:52 PM |
#207 |
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Thanks for the post. K-R. n/t |
Tripod |
Sep-05-11 10:14 PM |
#208 |
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Reading the WH's criticisms of "left wing" anything is painful for me. |
BlueIris |
Sep-05-11 10:34 PM |
#219 |
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Democratic party thinks every liberal can stay home, and Obama will still win by a landslide... |
scentopine |
Sep-05-11 10:51 PM |
#223 |
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very well said. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-06-11 06:45 AM |
#251 |
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The WH does a lot of silly things themselves... |
MrMickeysMom |
Sep-05-11 11:06 PM |
#225 |
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The WH is pushing false equivalency |
cprise |
Sep-06-11 12:03 AM |
#228 |
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Quoting Teabagger talking points... |
upi402 |
Sep-06-11 12:58 AM |
#236 |
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Yeah, teabaggers always accuse Obama of behaving like a republican. |
Lorien |
Sep-06-11 01:00 AM |
#238 |
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crazy |
fascisthunter |
Sep-06-11 10:50 AM |
#269 |
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I call the Obama administration "ridiculous," "silly," not "serious" and I equate them to GOPers |
begin_within |
Sep-06-11 01:23 AM |
#239 |
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+1 |
Shining Jack |
Sep-06-11 02:26 AM |
#247 |
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"...They only respect people who challenge them |
xxqqqzme |
Sep-06-11 03:56 AM |
#249 |
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Unrec for blatant clutching in the title,not borne out by the post, |
Denzil_DC |
Sep-06-11 08:47 AM |
#261 |
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K&R This name calling is unfortunate... Not a way to pick up votes in an |
midnight |
Sep-06-11 09:02 AM |
#262 |
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You're right that this White House responds only to those who go militant |
caseymoz |
Sep-06-11 09:28 AM |
#263 |
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bottom line is, it isn't personal, and neither they nor we should treat it that way... |
nashville_brook |
Sep-06-11 10:20 AM |
#265 |
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The interpretation in the subject line is "ridiculous," "silly," and not "serious." |
ZombieHorde |
Sep-06-11 09:45 AM |
#264 |
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He's a Neo-liberal with a "D" next to his name |
fascisthunter |
Sep-06-11 10:48 AM |
#268 |
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But .. but .. he hasn't lost the base ... |
Bake |
Sep-06-11 11:19 AM |
#270 |
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they must believe...or else. |
nashville_brook |
Sep-06-11 12:12 PM |
#273 |
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Nice disclaimer! |
DirkGently |
Sep-06-11 11:08 PM |
#283 |
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That is what Cass Sunstein says....but where does Obama stand? |
and-justice-for-all |
Sep-06-11 11:21 PM |
#284 |
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