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Wed Aug-24-11 11:23 AM
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| 69. But her story of what happened after changed multiple times. |
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Why was that necessary? Maybe because the sex was consensual and she had to make up the rest of the story to suggest that it wasn't. First it was that she waited in the hallway until DSK left. Then it was that she cleaned an adjacent room and came back to DSK's room after DSK left. Then it was that she returned to another room to pick up some personal items. Then, of course, there's the phone call to her boyfriend and the six figure sum transferred to her bank account by known felons over the past few years.
So I guess the truth isn't so important to you when dealing with a rape accusation? The accuser should be free to tell any lies they'd like and still expect their case to be taken seriously? Why don't you afford the same luxury to the accused?
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| -So, what's the take away from the whole Strauss-Kahn episode? If you rape a liar you walk free? |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-23-11 08:25 PM |
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Maybe this: if you accuse someone of a crime, you should stick to the truth. (nt) |
enough |
Aug-23-11 08:28 PM |
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Who says she lied? Maybe the "powers that be" really want this mess to go away, perhaps THEY are |
Happyhippychick |
Aug-23-11 08:28 PM |
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She says she lied. |
former9thward |
Aug-24-11 01:08 PM |
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If you're enough of an elitist, the law doesn't apply to you |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-23-11 08:30 PM |
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I think that is a complete and utter nonsense. |
LisaL |
Aug-23-11 08:32 PM |
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they took it so seriously they allowed him to be on house arrest in a fine apartment |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-23-11 08:42 PM |
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Like most accused of a crime, if they post bail, they don't have to stay in prison. |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-23-11 10:02 PM |
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Then why was he arrested and his career wrecked? |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-23-11 09:51 PM |
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It was all a little too convenient |
hifiguy |
Aug-24-11 08:59 AM |
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there is that angle. |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-24-11 09:20 AM |
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So did most of the French (and other Europeans, btw). |
BlueMTexpat |
Aug-24-11 09:47 AM |
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and he will do it again. maybe with a woman that is not so easily vilified. nt |
seabeyond |
Aug-24-11 09:51 AM |
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I am not sure whether you read my entire post and the link |
BlueMTexpat |
Aug-24-11 10:06 AM |
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Textbook example of an apologist for the powerful. Sorry, but very creepy. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 10:15 AM |
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Wow, if that's your take, we're in parallel universes. nt |
BlueMTexpat |
Aug-24-11 10:22 AM |
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Seems you don't know much about this case. |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-24-11 11:40 AM |
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The NYT article today basically said |
hifiguy |
Aug-24-11 01:22 PM |
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His behaviour towards women, sadly, doesn't make him vulnerable as a Frenchman... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-24-11 11:08 AM |
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And the US is a very puritanical society on many levels. |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-24-11 12:00 PM |
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Agreed. |
truebrit71 |
Aug-24-11 02:00 PM |
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it is my understanding the victim lied when she hid being raped in Africa as a refugee, am i wrong.? |
dogmoma56 |
Aug-23-11 08:35 PM |
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You are wrong. |
LisaL |
Aug-23-11 08:36 PM |
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of course there's links to back this up? |
Donnachaidh |
Aug-23-11 08:43 PM |
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Link to what? |
LisaL |
Aug-23-11 08:45 PM |
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You don't have to wait too long. |
former9thward |
Aug-24-11 01:21 PM |
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She did lie about being raped in Afirca and was 'coached' on how to |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-24-11 02:42 PM |
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From a piece I saw earlier, she USED the rape in Africa as a way to bolster |
SoCalDem |
Aug-23-11 10:18 PM |
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No, she was not raped in Africa |
Freddie Stubbs |
Aug-24-11 09:23 AM |
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I literally can't imagine how you wouldn't have a reasonable doubt here |
dsc |
Aug-23-11 08:35 PM |
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What is the specific amount of lies that it takes |
LanternWaste |
Aug-24-11 01:41 PM |
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she lied, under oath, about the same exact subject matter |
dsc |
Aug-24-11 02:48 PM |
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Maybe it is that known liars don't make great witnesses and as you say only two of them know for |
leeroysphitz |
Aug-23-11 08:36 PM |
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Stupid criminal justice system. Requiring fair trials and proof of guilt. |
AngkorWot |
Aug-23-11 08:38 PM |
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Which fair trial? The victims public one held by DSK's money and connections or the canceled one ? |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 10:18 AM |
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The fair trial in which the prosecuting attorneys realized they had fucked up badly. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 10:32 AM |
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The "victim" isn't actually going through a trial. |
AngkorWot |
Aug-24-11 01:09 PM |
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He was convicted in the court of public opinion, and that was all Sarkozy needed.... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-24-11 11:15 AM |
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That it will be taht much harder to actually prosecute |
nadinbrzezinski |
Aug-23-11 08:41 PM |
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Can't stand thinking about this. |
elleng |
Aug-23-11 08:50 PM |
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Tough call I think. |
Mz Pip |
Aug-23-11 10:09 PM |
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I really do not think it was her background that sunk her credibility. I believe that it was |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-23-11 10:10 PM |
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First they tried her life, and she was found guilty. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 09:26 AM |
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Yes. |
elleng |
Aug-24-11 10:13 AM |
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She lied to the prosecutors about THIS CASE. |
hugo_from_TN |
Aug-24-11 02:01 PM |
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There was no physical evidence. The medical examiner found none.l |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-24-11 10:42 PM |
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Is it right that a boy gets killed by a wolf just because |
Boojatta |
Aug-23-11 09:02 PM |
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According to the fable, yes indeedy. (n/t) |
Iggo |
Aug-24-11 09:26 AM |
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Those are not the only two options by a long shot |
Schema Thing |
Aug-23-11 09:09 PM |
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The same thing we got from the Kobe incident, rich men can rape poor women |
Motown_Johnny |
Aug-23-11 09:11 PM |
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Hey, that's what they're for? Right? |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 09:39 AM |
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You're just guessing. |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-24-11 07:19 PM |
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The takeaway may very well be that: If you do not believe you have |
rustydog |
Aug-23-11 09:16 PM |
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... 'the resources to defend yourself against the very finest lawyers, investigators, connections' |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 09:29 AM |
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The take away is, as in many cases that never make it to trial, the evidence wasn't there |
Luminous Animal |
Aug-23-11 09:58 PM |
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Doubt that the woman lied -- DSK has escaped yet another attempt to hold him accountable .... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-23-11 10:13 PM |
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No she actually did lie, or at least she changed her account of the incident |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-24-11 06:36 AM |
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Her lawyer, a notable civil rights attorney in NYC, said this is NOT true, |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 09:34 AM |
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why would her lawyer say otherwise? |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-24-11 09:58 AM |
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An officer of the court must tell the truth even in public. His statement is supportable by the evi |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 10:06 AM |
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well then either the DA or her lawyer is lying |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-24-11 01:45 PM |
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In turn, we may also suggest that DSK's lawyer would cover up for him? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-11 10:25 PM |
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yes of course, It is the DA that dropped the case. |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-25-11 06:33 AM |
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And there was no pressure on the DA to be dismissive to the victim -- nor to drop the case? |
defendandprotect |
Aug-25-11 06:10 PM |
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Cyrus Vance Jr.'s career is likely wrecked over this case. |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-25-11 07:59 PM |
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I'm not looking at the case objectively? ROFL |
defendandprotect |
Aug-25-11 11:38 PM |
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Maid may also be a victim of Female Genital Mutilation in Ghana.... |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-11 10:24 PM |
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And same is true of DSK -- with his disappearing "alibi" -- |
defendandprotect |
Aug-24-11 10:23 PM |
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She did lie |
tammywammy |
Aug-25-11 07:35 AM |
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Or that if you lie about rape the accused should go free, maybe? nt |
dmallind |
Aug-24-11 09:08 AM |
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It was a "NINE MINUTE CONSENSUAL RELATIONSHIP?" From hello to escape, 9 minutes. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 09:25 AM |
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and spitting out the sperm along the way. nt |
seabeyond |
Aug-24-11 09:33 AM |
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Synopsis of the dialogue of a possible 9 minute consensual relationship: |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-24-11 09:44 AM |
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Please show me this WHORE'S 2nd alleged customer? |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 09:55 AM |
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Maybe she doesn't get the opportunity to blow major world figures all that often. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 10:38 AM |
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So faced with DSK's dazzling leftist politics, the maid had no choice but to suck his cock? |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 10:41 AM |
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Perhaps she found out who he was and decided this would be a great way to make a buck? |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 10:48 AM |
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That's quite a conspiracy theory regarding a chance 9 minute rape. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 10:51 AM |
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Conspiracy theory? Here are the facts. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 10:55 AM |
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I am not alleging this is what happened. |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-24-11 01:21 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Aug-24-11 09:56 AM |
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Dominique Strauss-Kahn statement: |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 09:36 AM |
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Difficulties of proof in a courtroom |
treestar |
Aug-24-11 09:48 AM |
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That's the harsh reality of it. |
krispos42 |
Aug-24-11 10:23 AM |
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What alternative do you have to the testimony of credible witnesses |
Romulox |
Aug-24-11 10:32 AM |
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You can beat the Rap, but you can't beat the RIDE .. much |
mackdaddy |
Aug-24-11 10:47 AM |
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What's the take-away? Don't make shit up to try and get paid... |
truebrit71 |
Aug-24-11 11:06 AM |
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So what created that belief? The money that wrote the story or the politics that make you parrot it? |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:10 AM |
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It certainly wasn't the multiple stories that Diallo told. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:13 AM |
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Her story of the cock and what the cock did to her in that room never changed, it was reported immed |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:18 AM |
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But her story of what happened after changed multiple times. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:23 AM |
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Wrong, her story of what the 'cock' did to her was completely |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-24-11 11:55 AM |
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Created what belief, the fact that she lied/changed her story? |
truebrit71 |
Aug-24-11 11:31 AM |
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You are parroting. Textbook example. You are repeating the story he paid for. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:46 AM |
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That she lied is a fact. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:51 AM |
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What story? She lied. Repeatedly. Repeating facts is 'parroting'? |
truebrit71 |
Aug-24-11 02:10 PM |
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Apparently believing anything other than what that poster strongly feels is parroting. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 02:43 PM |
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Bingo. Why are so many people having a hard time understanding this? |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:10 AM |
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My first wish for the Genie. Go back in time and change the man in the room to Jeb Bush. Then I'll |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:15 AM |
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If Jeb Bush were falsely accused of rape I wouldn't demonize him. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:25 AM |
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Genie Wish #2. Take the next NYC rape accuser and pour $$ and talent into her story. Watch result. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:32 AM |
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Her OWN lawyers said she couldn't be trusted. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:38 AM |
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Her own lawyers do support her. THey have accused the DA of misstating the facts. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:44 AM |
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Wrong. Now you are outright lying. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:49 AM |
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Ahhhh, the Court of Wikipedia. Cute. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:58 AM |
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Do you deny ANYTHING I've posted? |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 12:05 PM |
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Yes I do. The attorney for the victim has also disagreed with the Wikipedia findings of fact. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 12:23 PM |
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What specifically do you disagree with? |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 12:25 PM |
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That she became a cock sucking lying whore in the 9 minute she knew DSK who deserves no day in court |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 12:29 PM |
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Ahhhh, so more mindless platitudes from you. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 12:32 PM |
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Oh, and by the way. You addressed absolutely nothing from the Wikipedia article. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 12:33 PM |
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Wikipedia is beneath any thinking persons time to quibble with. It's an intellectual backwater writ |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 12:39 PM |
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You're a joke. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 12:45 PM |
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I say "Wikipedia" has no place in serious talk, and you infer that I mean the NYT, CBS, PBS? |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 12:51 PM |
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Derp! Where do you think that information came from? |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 12:53 PM |
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Ad Hominem, that always "wins". You're a Winner. Don't let the whores or anyone else stop you two! |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 12:56 PM |
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So you're still confused by this issue? |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 12:59 PM |
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You posted a Wikipedia interpretation. The link to assorted news outlets does not make it "theirs" |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 01:06 PM |
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But it is "theirs", most of them are direct quotes. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 01:10 PM |
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No, it's not "theirs". You were right the first time when you said "Wikipedia" Big Diff between them |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 01:13 PM |
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Once again, I've provided you with the links. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 01:14 PM |
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And I'm quite sure that you have no idea what "ad hominem" means. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 01:02 PM |
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Dude, you called me an idiot that can't read or understand simple logic. You win, Winner!! |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 01:10 PM |
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Yeah, but that's only because you're an idiot that can't understand simple logic. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 01:12 PM |
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You're like the Winningest Winner of all! Your mom must be so proud to have raised a bullying thug. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 01:14 PM |
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Your mom must be so proud to have raised someone who can't utilize the most simple of logic. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 01:15 PM |
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I don't share your belief in the supreme deity Wikipedia? Blasphemy to not trust it? PBS=WIKI, No? |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 01:18 PM |
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You don't share my belief in facts. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 01:56 PM |
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And your constant refrain of "Wikipedia bad!" is beyond tiresome, it's idiotic. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 02:04 PM |
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Wrong, two of her lawyers quit early on in the case. Liars |
sabrina 1 |
Aug-24-11 01:01 PM |
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I don't think she is a public figure, so a lawsuit could emerge from this here discussion. |
Major Hogwash |
Aug-24-11 11:28 AM |
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Don't you know? She's a cock sucking lying whore. She was tried and found guilty. |
nomb |
Aug-24-11 11:35 AM |
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Nope, not yet. |
EOTE |
Aug-24-11 11:37 AM |
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I think your premise is erroneous |
lunatica |
Aug-24-11 11:32 AM |
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isn't the answer obvious |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Aug-24-11 01:02 PM |
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Yes, and the having of the lots of cash helps too. |
Safetykitten |
Aug-24-11 01:07 PM |
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wealth has its privileges n/t |
librechik |
Aug-24-11 01:19 PM |
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keep repeating the happy mantra here |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-24-11 01:49 PM |
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I would like to congratulate all the posters in this thread who jumped to conclusions about intent |
Stinky The Clown |
Aug-24-11 01:50 PM |
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a victim is a victim - it is a state of being not a right |
Warren Stupidity |
Aug-24-11 05:31 PM |
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The question is based on two opposing premises. |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-24-11 07:23 PM |
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Not really the point |
Spike89 |
Aug-24-11 03:00 PM |
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The only thing I can say is the legal system worked as it was designed to. nt |
madinmaryland |
Aug-24-11 03:02 PM |
#130 |
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We can't use gut feelings to convict someone. |
ZombieHorde |
Aug-24-11 07:18 PM |
#132 |
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My Take Away... Is That I'm Getting The Hell Out Of This Thread !!!~ |
WillyT |
Aug-24-11 10:26 PM |
#138 |
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Where is the link that she is telling the truth? When a rape occurs, the victim |
akbacchus_BC |
Aug-24-11 10:40 PM |
#139 |
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Your gut is not evidence. Your post is highly disturbing. |
cali |
Aug-25-11 07:26 AM |
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I think in this case the prosecution would have lost. |
TNLib |
Aug-25-11 06:21 PM |
#145 |
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your innocent until proven guilty |
rdking647 |
Aug-25-11 06:30 PM |
#146 |
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