OnyxCollie
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Wed Jun-22-11 08:32 AM
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It's an executive order that, in the event of an emergency (whatever that emergency may be), the fundamental structure of government changes, making the President a dictator for an indeterminate amount of time. Didn't you read recently about the Senators who were alarmed that there was a "secret" PATRIOT Act? Or how about this, from 2007? DeFazio demands access to classified information http://blog.oregonlive.com/politics/2007/07/defazio_dem... WASHINGTON -- Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., continued his push to review the classified portion of a White House plan to operate the government after a terrorist attack. DeFazio and two other key members of the House Homeland Security Committee on Friday wrote a letter to a top Bush administration homeland security official requesting access to the information. The White House refused to provide it to DeFazio last week. ~snip~ DeFazio had requested access to the classified portion after hearing from constituents concerned about a conspiracy. The public portion of the presidential directive lays out general policies for operating the government during a major catastrophe, but it referred to classified portions. ~snip~ According to the letter, White House staff had initially said it would provide the document to Homeland Security Committee staff so DeFazio could review it. But on July 18, White House staff, the congressmen wrote, "informed the committee that the request had been reconsidered and rejected. In fact, the committee staff was told the document is 'close hold,' and 'frankly we are not willing to share it.'" Go ahead and try to create your own "Arab spring." Don't be surprised when you get your ass handed to you.
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Cyrano |
Jun-21-11 11:54 AM |
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The only remaining problem |
Jackpine Radical |
Jun-21-11 11:58 AM |
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It Logically Follows that the Country Doesn't Need the Obscenely Wealthy |
Demeter |
Jun-22-11 06:35 AM |
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Agree. Patriotic millionaires should pay their fair share of taxes or get the hell out |
think |
Jun-22-11 07:29 AM |
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Without the Loot |
Demeter |
Jun-22-11 11:30 AM |
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Touche! |
midnight |
Jun-22-11 11:44 AM |
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True. |
area51 |
Jun-21-11 11:58 AM |
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To me, the scariest part is |
Lindsay |
Jun-21-11 11:59 AM |
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It's just come home |
Capitalocracy |
Jun-21-11 12:08 PM |
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Maybe |
Harmony Blue |
Jun-21-11 11:59 AM |
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"... with people hitting the streets!" |
Cyrano |
Jun-21-11 01:47 PM |
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It was ALSO very important that the driver of the lead tank wouldn't/didn't |
BillyJack |
Jun-21-11 11:26 PM |
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Another difference is that the Chinese know they live in a dictatorship |
nxylas |
Jun-22-11 06:06 AM |
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Well I would not be to sure of the outcome if it were Blackwater |
zeemike |
Jun-22-11 08:50 AM |
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That's why the mercenary forces have been built up |
hifiguy |
Jun-22-11 09:35 AM |
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That's precisely the reason the Chinese authorities removed the tank units and |
bertman |
Jun-22-11 09:00 AM |
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That was one of the bravest actions I've ever seen. n/t |
Mnemosyne |
Jun-22-11 08:16 AM |
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I think if 100,000 people just parked their cars and walked away in every major capital and |
Pharaoh |
Jun-22-11 08:57 AM |
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You might want to read NSPD 51 before you "hit the streets." |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-21-11 10:54 PM |
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What you need |
Mathias Kohler |
Jun-22-11 06:01 AM |
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Hear, hear |
cap |
Jun-22-11 07:05 AM |
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welcome to DU |
barbtries |
Jun-22-11 07:15 AM |
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In 2006, Democrats took back the House and Senate. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 08:37 AM |
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So what's your solution? |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 08:46 AM |
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They're awake now? |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 08:55 AM |
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I don't have a complete solution |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 11:13 AM |
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Great. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 11:20 AM |
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I've got more than you. |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 11:23 AM |
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Hey, I've got an idea! |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 11:27 AM |
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Here's another step - |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 11:41 AM |
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It's easy to be a martyr on the Internets. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 12:09 PM |
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OnyxCollie? |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 12:34 PM |
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Gee, what a loss. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 12:48 PM |
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The way I see it |
Mathias Kohler |
Jun-23-11 08:42 AM |
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Nice scare tactic, but when people have little to lose they aren't going to care |
TBF |
Jun-22-11 07:18 AM |
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Scare tactic? |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 08:32 AM |
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Again, What is YOUR solution? |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 08:47 AM |
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It's too late for solutions. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 09:01 AM |
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unfortunately, I expected as much |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 11:00 AM |
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Still waiting on your solution, genius. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 11:13 AM |
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Read my post #105, Einstein |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 11:17 AM |
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I did. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 11:21 AM |
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And I'm less than concerned. See ya... |
demwing |
Jun-22-11 11:24 AM |
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Sarah Palin as President is a scare tactic. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 02:46 PM |
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I think it goes beyond not needing us. They actively want us to suffer or die. |
CrossChris |
Jun-21-11 11:59 AM |
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Sure looks that way doesn't it? |
Populist_Prole |
Jun-21-11 12:03 PM |
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Unfortunate as this may be, it could be true. Fight back. Watch your back. |
earcandle |
Jun-22-11 03:06 AM |
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"They actively want us to suffer or die." |
CrispyQ |
Jun-22-11 10:14 AM |
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Talk to some people here on the Gulf Coast. It may or may not change your mind. |
CrossChris |
Jun-22-11 12:57 PM |
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They're just stupid, as you would expect people who value little pieces of |
plumbob |
Jun-21-11 12:00 PM |
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I'm curious. |
BonnieJW |
Jun-22-11 08:00 AM |
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Yes, cash for everything in person. We have no bills out of town. |
plumbob |
Jun-22-11 09:06 AM |
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Republicans don't care if we die in the streets |
nichomachus |
Jun-21-11 12:05 PM |
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Well said. |
FiveGoodMen |
Jun-21-11 12:43 PM |
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Yup and also the Democrats don't want you to suffer |
Raine |
Jun-21-11 07:46 PM |
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We need an FDR as much as during the Depression and World War 2. |
Octafish |
Jun-21-11 12:05 PM |
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An FDR or JFK would never get to the White House today |
Cyrano |
Jun-21-11 12:46 PM |
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May they experience a moment of irony when the words of JFK come true. |
Octafish |
Jun-21-11 02:51 PM |
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Well, JFK was assassinated, was he not? |
WinkyDink |
Jun-21-11 07:57 PM |
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Exactly, n/t |
Cyrano |
Jun-21-11 08:15 PM |
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And so his brother, Robert. |
Octafish |
Jun-21-11 10:52 PM |
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and you have to wonder if Obama... |
CoffeeCat |
Jun-22-11 12:45 AM |
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They're not going to actively kill you. |
Capitalocracy |
Jun-21-11 12:06 PM |
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They control everything |
salinen |
Jun-21-11 12:20 PM |
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Just some of your enemies are in Washington, salinen |
Cyrano |
Jun-21-11 12:31 PM |
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If it was just the uber-wealthy, bankers, and wall street people |
The2ndWheel |
Jun-21-11 12:29 PM |
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Yet they still seem to insist |
Golden Raisin |
Jun-21-11 02:23 PM |
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IMO it's a phoney facade to make it all look on the up and up |
Raine |
Jun-21-11 07:55 PM |
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I would say that the laughing stock of Republican... |
CoffeeCat |
Jun-22-11 12:49 AM |
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We can learn from recent history... |
ljm2002 |
Jun-21-11 03:02 PM |
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Great rant, ljm2002 |
Cyrano |
Jun-21-11 06:58 PM |
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Yes it's hard to say what might happen... |
ljm2002 |
Jun-21-11 10:41 PM |
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+1. n/t |
gkhouston |
Jun-21-11 07:16 PM |
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+1! |
snot |
Jun-21-11 08:41 PM |
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Great Post...our Firefighters, Police and even our Military are US not Wall St. Types.. |
KoKo |
Jun-21-11 09:47 PM |
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Excellent analysis. |
Kaleko |
Jun-21-11 10:08 PM |
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+1 |
amborin |
Jun-21-11 10:26 PM |
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What ljm2002 said in post#20 and....Starve the Beast.... |
OneGrassRoot |
Jun-22-11 05:43 AM |
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OneGrassRoot |
avebury |
Jun-22-11 08:58 AM |
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I understand your frustration avebury |
yesphan |
Jun-22-11 09:58 AM |
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Well put. |
harun |
Jun-22-11 10:19 AM |
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+1 (n/t) |
Useless in FL |
Jun-22-11 02:48 PM |
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Did not buy it, and should |
nadinbrzezinski |
Jun-21-11 07:57 PM |
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What if we didn't need their existence anymore? BARTERING. What if we started bartering with each |
cyberpj |
Jun-21-11 08:51 PM |
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I grow beans, you grow tomatoes. I sew, you fix my broken faucet. |
AmBlue |
Jun-21-11 09:42 PM |
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Look up historic communes. Some of them made excellent products. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Jun-21-11 10:44 PM |
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Oneida flatware is made in China now. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-21-11 11:01 PM |
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Fair enough, but you can't trade chickens for cancer treatements. |
Jester Messiah |
Jun-22-11 10:38 AM |
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Absolutely! And she was a REALLY dum republichick... |
AmBlue |
Jun-22-11 02:41 PM |
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I totally agree with you. You know people who think this are considered by some as batshit crazy. |
Stinky The Clown |
Jun-21-11 08:53 PM |
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Indeed, they'd be quite happy if about 1/4 of the population were to just drop dead |
Hugabear |
Jun-21-11 10:20 PM |
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A *professor!* said '90-percent depopulation' was needed. The audience cheered. |
Octafish |
Jun-21-11 11:12 PM |
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Malware in your link |
Blecht |
Jun-22-11 03:26 AM |
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Thank you! DU archives to the rescue... |
Octafish |
Jun-22-11 08:47 AM |
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K&R. nt |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-21-11 11:02 PM |
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now we are seeing the real situation. k and r |
bbgrunt |
Jun-21-11 11:48 PM |
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Their neglect of the MC and Poor reveals their hand. Endless War proves it. |
Octafish |
Jun-22-11 12:22 AM |
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I've said this for a while ,got in trouble for it |
999998th word |
Jun-22-11 12:41 AM |
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HUGE K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Jun-22-11 12:47 AM |
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Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of of men will do the most |
snagglepuss |
Jun-22-11 01:07 AM |
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Of course they need us - to pay the taxes |
TorchTheWitch |
Jun-22-11 01:16 AM |
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A lot of those mercenaries are our children who are earning a good living. But they might give it |
earcandle |
Jun-22-11 03:04 AM |
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Exactly. |
RandomThoughts |
Jun-22-11 03:45 AM |
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"Those who rule us are barbarians." |
nonperson |
Jun-22-11 05:57 AM |
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Thank You So Much! |
jimlup |
Jun-22-11 06:34 AM |
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That is so true. |
avebury |
Jun-22-11 06:39 AM |
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K&R |
Hubert Flottz |
Jun-22-11 06:49 AM |
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Solution |
Eddie Haskell |
Jun-22-11 07:03 AM |
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corporate interests and money have long ago usurped the interests of the citizens. |
Javaman |
Jun-22-11 08:04 AM |
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MY GOD, someone besides me FINALLY noticed: WE HAVE BEEN MADE IRRELEVANT! |
Beam Me Up |
Jun-22-11 08:32 AM |
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George Carlin said it all though not many had ears: "They don't give a fuck about you" |
deutsey |
Jun-22-11 08:56 AM |
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If we are hungry then, we should EAT the RICH! |
JCMach1 |
Jun-22-11 08:59 AM |
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This Debate Is Now Over. |
Veri1138 |
Jun-22-11 09:01 AM |
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Welcome to DU! nt. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 09:06 AM |
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Haven't seen it summed up so well in a long time. |
BeHereNow |
Jun-22-11 09:24 AM |
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Thanks for your great post and Welcome to DU |
Bryn |
Jun-22-11 09:40 AM |
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A big REC. nt |
bertman |
Jun-22-11 09:08 AM |
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They still need us to give them money to gamble with..... |
OwnedByFerrets |
Jun-22-11 09:16 AM |
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K&R |
Bryn |
Jun-22-11 09:42 AM |
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They have showerhead. We have tumbrels. |
RaleighNCDUer |
Jun-22-11 09:46 AM |
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No. They aren't stupid. They know this can't be sustained. |
Bonhomme Richard |
Jun-22-11 10:04 AM |
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No, no, no. They NEED us to PAY THEIR BILLS. n/t |
dsharp88 |
Jun-22-11 10:43 AM |
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They have no bills. |
Cyrano |
Jun-22-11 12:53 PM |
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Organize! |
watrwefitinfor |
Jun-22-11 10:57 AM |
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Exactly. |
sulphurdunn |
Jun-22-11 11:25 AM |
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Grass roots organizing to |
sulphurdunn |
Jun-22-11 11:18 AM |
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It's definitely getting scary |
AnnieK401 |
Jun-22-11 11:33 AM |
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Sorry, I don't have an answer. But if it is any consolation, I think that your analysis is spot on. |
totodeinhere |
Jun-22-11 12:00 PM |
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Rally in Washington |
pmorlan1 |
Jun-22-11 12:15 PM |
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Way to alienate over half the people in this country who would be on your side. |
watrwefitinfor |
Jun-22-11 01:45 PM |
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"True believers" will be the death of this country. |
OnyxCollie |
Jun-22-11 02:50 PM |
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I disagree. |
Rex |
Jun-22-11 12:53 PM |
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They only need a few. |
Autumn |
Jun-27-11 01:20 PM |
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You're almost right. |
caseymoz |
Jun-22-11 01:40 PM |
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Dogs with with the sharpest fangs love a dog eat dog world. K&R n/t |
whatchamacallit |
Jun-22-11 01:45 PM |
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We are anonymous, and we are legion. |
Zorra |
Jun-23-11 11:34 AM |
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It goes both ways: they don't need us... and we don't need them |
txlibdem |
Jun-27-11 06:32 PM |
#136 |