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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 08:31 PM
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796. Any of you who are looking for someone to blame for this thread
It's me. I dared to make a post in GLBT recently entitled "Mr. Skinner, Where Are the Tombstones?" (A nice wink to Keith Olbermann) in my belief that the Administration was still interested in having an open discussion about the problems GLBT people have here.

I preserved my original post, and include it here:

In the "mending fences" discussions, I've mentioned a couple of times that it almost feels like somehow gays aren't allowed to use the "Alert" function. At least, that's the net effect since so many of our complaints seem to bear no fruit and the offenders are allowed to go on with impunity.

The most galling part of this is that some of us see ourselves alerting over and over on the exact same people. In so many cases the offensive homophobic remarks, calling out of gay DU'ers, pony remarks, postings of 'teh LIST,' etc., are all coming from the same people. Even on the few occasions that their posts actually get locked, they don't get flushed down the memory hole like a number of our posts questioning Obama's commitment to our issues do within minutes of their postings. And where any serial rulebreaker or disruptor would normally find themselves getting the concrete pizza treatment, it seems that the DU policy about these offenders is "it's okay if you're a homophobe."

I know that's not officially the case, but it's the effective case.

I will not name them here, because I don't intend for this to be a call-out thread against those serial offenders. (The moderators can just look at the logs of the alerts many of us have sent that have been ignored.) What I AM doing is making a plea to the moderators and administrators who seemed so intent on "mending fences" months ago but have allowed things to continue to degenerate to this pass.

Part of "mending fences" is applying the rules evenly. By welcoming back the victims of the "purge" and other recent actions Skinner and company have stopped the part of the uneven treatment that saw gays being held to tighter standards. Now it's time for the other side of the balance. The homophobes and their sock puppets need to have the same scrutiny applied to them and the same fate that has met too many of our group.

In short, Mr. Skinner, where are the tombstones?


Mopinko locked it and told me to take it to ATA. That was NOT the deletion I referred to earlier although she seems to be deflecting criticism by claiming it is. I did take it to ATA, where it was not answered and eventually deleted.

There are a slew of threads about similar issues going unanswered in ATA at the moment. I am personally aware of two of mine and at least three others. I guess Skinner figured that it would be safer to move the discussion back out into the open.
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