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Tue Dec-22-09 09:26 PM
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| 36. LOL! So true about the "guns and bombs".. |
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But this isn't "bad". Its a big first step for the "good of the public" and Dean knows it.
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| -Howard Dean: "if the Republicans hate it so much, there must be some good in it." |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 08:58 PM |
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Hmmm... wonder where all "rec if you're with Howard Dean" posts are now? |
scheming daemons |
Dec-22-09 08:59 PM |
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+1 |
krawhitham |
Dec-22-09 09:29 PM |
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Dean never said there was "nothing good" in the bill. He allegedly said tonight there is "some good" |
mcablue |
Dec-22-09 10:00 PM |
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I don' think he 'caved' I think he's |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-09 09:02 PM |
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Well he wasn't being "pragmatic" at all just a few days ago.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:05 PM |
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He changed his mind after the bill changed. So yeah, |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-09 09:09 PM |
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Yes, your are right. Dean actually made that same claim but.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:14 PM |
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He was concerned about cost controls. The public option was one way |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-09 09:16 PM |
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I have two videos posted in this thread that say you are wrong. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:29 PM |
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Yeah, as a former Deaniac..actually I still |
Cha |
Dec-22-09 09:06 PM |
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It's amazing |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-09 09:15 PM |
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I think the repugs are just doing this for show now. |
rurallib |
Dec-22-09 09:04 PM |
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No doubt. They are playing this thing for all its worth.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:09 PM |
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And a lot of them are on here un'rec-ing every OP that is positive about the President or Democrats. |
Maraya1969 |
Dec-22-09 09:45 PM |
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reality trumps ideology. always. (nm) |
bevoette |
Dec-22-09 09:04 PM |
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Funny, Barbara Boxer said basically the same thing, and she's |
babylonsister |
Dec-22-09 09:04 PM |
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Hardly a pariah, just made a disappointing move. As has Dean. Some of us can see beyond B/W |
glitch |
Dec-22-09 09:09 PM |
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What is wrong with what she said? I've heard that said often: |
babylonsister |
Dec-22-09 09:13 PM |
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Right, haters. Not policy dissenters, haters. Lover or haters of persons,. not statments or policies |
glitch |
Dec-22-09 09:25 PM |
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Agreed! |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-09 09:26 PM |
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Of course. Black is white, progressive heros "cave" |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-09 09:25 PM |
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Not a pariah with me. I quite like her. |
burning rain |
Dec-22-09 09:33 PM |
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He remembers he proposed subsidized insurance n/t |
sandnsea |
Dec-22-09 09:04 PM |
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WRONG |
Skittles |
Dec-22-09 09:04 PM |
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There is some good in it, no question about that. |
girl gone mad |
Dec-22-09 09:05 PM |
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They (and insurers) came up with the fucking thing. |
Oregone |
Dec-22-09 09:05 PM |
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Oh they hate it because Obama wants it and it doesn't involve killing people with guns and bombs |
dkf |
Dec-22-09 09:06 PM |
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LOL! So true about the "guns and bombs".. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:26 PM |
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That's a bull-ony throw away line... |
SnoopDog |
Dec-22-09 09:07 PM |
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I have to say this is a little reassuring |
Betsy Ross |
Dec-22-09 09:07 PM |
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Video from today with Schieffer. Make your own decision. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:08 PM |
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Yes We Can.....Cave In |
Armstead |
Dec-22-09 09:12 PM |
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Dean brought this on himself.. He should not have gone public with such a negative tone.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:12 PM |
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Well, then if he is a "whooped puppy"...then ain't we happy and cheery. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:24 PM |
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There is a huge difference in "pointing out harmful things" and demanding to "kill the bill".. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:29 PM |
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You are misquoting again. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:31 PM |
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Are we talking about the same "Howard Dean"? |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:34 PM |
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Where is the Maddow replay DCB? |
mzmolly |
Dec-22-09 11:50 PM |
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Sad, it's pathetic. I truly don't think they can see other than black or white. |
glitch |
Dec-22-09 09:12 PM |
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That's the lamest justification I've heard to date. They have made it clear |
Better Today |
Dec-22-09 09:11 PM |
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Watch the spin. Make sure the truth is being told. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:12 PM |
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Hence the "if" in my assesment. |
Better Today |
Dec-22-09 09:15 PM |
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Spin? I think I quoted Dean word for word.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:20 PM |
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I will do that. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:27 PM |
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Maybe someone can get the vid and post it.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:31 PM |
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Have you watched the one I posted that has had untruths told here? |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:33 PM |
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No i have not but this interview just happened so its latest and greatest.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:40 PM |
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Word for word, but out of context and entirely lacking based on the actual |
Better Today |
Dec-22-09 10:37 PM |
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Except that they don't hate it. They don't give a shit about its contents. |
eridani |
Dec-22-09 09:12 PM |
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I wonder what Rahm threatened him with? |
dkf |
Dec-22-09 09:12 PM |
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You don't think much of Dean, do you? |
Cha |
Dec-22-09 10:28 PM |
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No one criticizes Obama and survives WH and Media wrath... |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:14 PM |
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Bad logic. If one wishes to discuss the merits of the bill, then specifically name the merits. |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-22-09 09:19 PM |
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He did also mention there were some changes that also affected his position.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:44 PM |
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Good, perhaps the Republican bit was a joke. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-22-09 10:28 PM |
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Oh no |
ellie |
Dec-22-09 09:32 PM |
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If he equated the left and right then he is wrong like Boxer. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:38 PM |
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Sorry to see Dean cave. |
Laelth |
Dec-22-09 09:41 PM |
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Don't let them do this. I have posted two videos. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:46 PM |
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You seem a bit desperate dude.. Chill out. Dean is just facing up to political reality.. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 09:48 PM |
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I am not a dude. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 10:00 PM |
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Sorry. |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 10:09 PM |
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Thanks for the real evidence and, as usual, for advocating for the truth. |
Laelth |
Dec-22-09 09:52 PM |
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Well, people keep falling for it. He has not caved. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 09:56 PM |
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What real evidence? |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 10:08 PM |
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Thank you! I wanted Dean for President. |
Sparky 1 |
Dec-23-09 06:28 AM |
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Dead-ender, huh? |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-22-09 10:37 PM |
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Can you provide context? that's what I hate about people quoting TV shows |
mcablue |
Dec-22-09 09:58 PM |
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Here's the link to the video... |
DCBob |
Dec-22-09 10:01 PM |
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I just watched the video. |
madfloridian |
Dec-22-09 10:23 PM |
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He said the Nelson amendment was significant and the Senate exchanges are better than the House. n/t |
ProSense |
Dec-22-09 10:33 PM |
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That is my sentiment exactly. :) n/t |
Unvanguard |
Dec-22-09 10:32 PM |
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Good. I'm very proud of Dr. Dean. |
jefferson_dem |
Dec-22-09 10:35 PM |
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Thank you Howard for coming back home!!!! |
Clio the Leo |
Dec-22-09 11:14 PM |
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... |
babylonsister |
Dec-23-09 12:07 AM |
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I really wouldn't call it a cave in... |
Tippy |
Dec-23-09 06:48 AM |
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