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RBInMaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-20-09 11:37 AM
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59. The "free" equipment you mention is not a reality for most people and you know it. Try again.
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  -Why are people not screaming about auto insurance mandates, and WITHOUT subsidies?? RBInMaine  Dec-20-09 10:56 AM   #0 
  - Well, you dont have to have auto insurance  MadBadger   Dec-20-09 10:58 AM   #1 
  - And there ya have it  AnOhioan   Dec-20-09 10:59 AM   #2 
  - Not having a car is not always a practical possibility in this nation  NJmaverick   Dec-20-09 10:59 AM   #4 
  - Yes, but you still dont have to have a car  MadBadger   Dec-20-09 11:01 AM   #5 
     - Why are motor cyclists required to purchase and wear helmets?  NJmaverick   Dec-20-09 11:03 AM   #9 
        - No one is required to purchase a helmet (or baby seat)  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:15 AM   #26 
           - The "free" equipment you mention is not a reality for most people and you know it. Try again.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:37 AM   #59 
              - You know a lot about this. How much do they have to pay every month for that stuff  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:39 AM   #63 
  - Sorry. This is so lame. Most MUST have a car. Please.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:02 AM   #6 
  - You can choose not to have a car  bigwillq   Dec-20-09 10:59 AM   #3 
  - Again, so lame. Most MUST have a car to survive. Please be real.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:03 AM   #7 
     - Sorry my opinion disagrees with your opinion.  bigwillq   Dec-20-09 11:05 AM   #11 
     - I didn't call names. I mean grow up and get real. That is advice.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:07 AM   #14 
        - Do these advanced tactics usually win arguments for you?  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:20 AM   #37 
        - Lame is a name  bigwillq   Dec-20-09 11:31 AM   #50 
           - Lame is an adjective for your argument, and that is self-evident.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:36 AM   #56 
              - Next time you want to prove a point  bigwillq   Dec-20-09 11:37 AM   #61 
     - So if you don't have a car you will die...uh-huh.  kiva   Dec-20-09 11:57 AM   #94 
     - But that is the distinction that makes a difference  DeschutesRiver   Dec-20-09 12:00 PM   #97 
     - RBI grow up, one can live without a car well, it means living in a city, and it's easy and cheap  digidigido   Dec-20-09 12:06 PM   #108 
     - My son CAN'T drive because of his vision  zalinda   Dec-20-09 12:15 PM   #120 
  - I don't die if I don't drive.  WT Fuheck   Dec-20-09 11:03 AM   #8 
  - Ah. So the private, for-profit system is good as long as it is auto insurance? Hm...  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:05 AM   #10 
  - I didn't say it was good, though that was a nice try at a straw man.  WT Fuheck   Dec-20-09 12:26 PM   #129 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-20-09 11:06 AM   #12 
  - Why scream? The government subsidizes my 3 year old child's premium.  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:06 AM   #13 
  - Sorry naysayers. You're pretty trapped on this one. Reality time!  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:09 AM   #15 
  - BTW, auto insurance reform, and there has been some, NEVER included a public option. Where was the  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:11 AM   #18 
  - Insisting non-drivers get government subsidies for mandated auto premiums is a fantasy  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:13 AM   #22 
     - What about the 270 million American drivers? And truckers? And farmers? And commercial fishermen?  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:16 AM   #29 
        - A blue goose can fly with tangerine love  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:18 AM   #32 
           - no you don't understand  griffi94   Dec-20-09 11:31 AM   #49 
              - in this scenario the pet monkey should have two wooden legs  dave29   Dec-20-09 11:41 AM   #65 
                 - K&R this subthread  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:50 AM   #79 
  - You've lost all ability to think rationally  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:19 AM   #34 
     - I'm being irrational?  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:22 AM   #38 
        - Yes.  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:26 AM   #42 
        - But apples aren't oranges  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:29 AM   #46 
        - It can be compared  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:33 AM   #53 
           - I'm saying don't make individuals be forced to enter the marketplace and engage in commerce  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:38 AM   #62 
              - But with Lieberman in position of 60th senator  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:45 AM   #72 
                 - Lieberman is a scapegoat.  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:48 AM   #75 
                    - Pointless post  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:50 AM   #80 
                       - Democrats are trying to blame him for shitty reform. The reform started as a turd  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:57 AM   #95 
                          - Of course they can blame him!  treestar   Dec-20-09 12:00 PM   #99 
                             - Make em fillibuster  Oregone   Dec-20-09 12:13 PM   #119 
        - And don't forget, Medicare is paid to PRIVATE hospitals. So where is the screeching?  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:32 AM   #51 
           - Exactly, if paying for health insurance is a gift to insurance companies  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:37 AM   #60 
           - Stupid comment: "Then Medicare should be scrapped"  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:45 AM   #71 
              - But why aren't you upset that government funds are used to pay  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:48 AM   #76 
                 - The insurance is efficient and disburses monies according to claims (rather than as dividends)  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:56 AM   #90 
                    - It's still comparable  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:59 AM   #96 
                       - And cats are dogs  Oregone   Dec-20-09 12:01 PM   #100 
                          - Cat and dogs are both mammals  treestar   Dec-20-09 12:02 PM   #103 
                             - In one scenario, people choose to do business with em. In the other, they are being forced to  Oregone   Dec-20-09 12:12 PM   #117 
           - So, at least you eliminate corporate profits from the insurance end...  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:42 AM   #66 
        - So you don't care about the mandates on the 270 million American drivers?  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:29 AM   #44 
           - The ones that choose to drive? Or are they mandated by the government to drive?  Oregone   Dec-20-09 11:31 AM   #47 
           - The least you can do is back up this absurd figure.  enlightenment   Dec-20-09 12:37 PM   #136 
  - Becuase one CHOOSES to own a car or not. One does not choose whether or  kestrel91316   Dec-20-09 11:09 AM   #16 
  - Lame lame lame...Ok, so let's just give up our cars. All 270 million of us.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:13 AM   #20 
  - When did I suggest THAT? I said you can't compare the two.  kestrel91316   Dec-20-09 01:40 PM   #143 
  - Then you choose to have no medical treatment if that life is threatened!  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:15 AM   #27 
  - How many choices did you have when you picked your health insurance?  dkf   Dec-20-09 11:10 AM   #17 
  - And the health bill provides many more choices. So you like PRIVATE auto insurance???  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:14 AM   #24 
     - Some idiot ran into me and totalled my car a few years back.  dkf   Dec-20-09 11:17 AM   #31 
        - You could get sick without the aid of any other idiot  treestar   Dec-20-09 12:05 PM   #107 
           - Odds are most of my health care bills will be in the last 2 months of my dying  dkf   Dec-20-09 12:27 PM   #133 
  - It's become a mantra that health insurance companies are...  TreasonousBastard   Dec-20-09 11:11 AM   #19 
  - There is no screeching about paying for insurance of any kind  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:13 AM   #21 
  - Use your head. Crash injures another party so mandate protects the other party.  timeforpeace   Dec-20-09 11:13 AM   #23 
  - This would protect YOU!!!!!  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:17 AM   #30 
  - You're out of reality. MOST Americans MUST have a car, and farmers need tractors, and fishermen need  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:22 AM   #39 
     - Yep. It's true you need a car for most practical matters.  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:29 AM   #45 
  - It's not just about crashes. And farmers? And fishing boats? And long haulers? And airplanes?....  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:18 AM   #33 
  - The link to causing direct harm to others is much more direct with reckless driving  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-20-09 11:15 AM   #25 
  - Fourteen to Sixteen percent of drivers drive without insurance  HereSince1628   Dec-20-09 11:15 AM   #28 
  - Damn that's alot of screeching about real reality, folks  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:19 AM   #35 
  - Let me guess, you're a middle schooler, right?  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:34 AM   #54 
     - Yes, I'm only 12 and you are 97 right?  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:35 AM   #55 
     - Aren't you a teacher?  spoony   Dec-20-09 12:24 PM   #126 
  - Auto insurance is only required to cover damages to other drivers, you  intheozone   Dec-20-09 11:19 AM   #36 
  - Having a car is not absolutely required and in large metros sometimes more of a pain than help  TheKentuckian   Dec-20-09 11:23 AM   #40 
  - Is there ANY sense of reality here? What planet are you on? Hundreds of millions of us MUST have  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:27 AM   #43 
     - Realy Real Reality you are Dropping on us, For Reals  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:36 AM   #57 
     - keepin it reals  frylock   Dec-20-09 01:22 PM   #142 
     - Are you denying that millions of Americans do not drive?  TheKentuckian   Dec-20-09 11:54 AM   #86 
  - Becasue they saved 15% in 15 minutes or less  dave29   Dec-20-09 11:26 AM   #41 
  - LOL  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:31 AM   #48 
  - Because they're intellectually dishonest and want any reason to stand against Pres. Obama HCR effort  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 11:32 AM   #52 
  - I guaruntee you there will be those that say Obama is a climate change denier  dave29   Dec-20-09 11:36 AM   #58 
  - Along with a long laundry list of other false Outrage memes, to be sure.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 11:45 AM   #70 
     - Yay Meme Spotting, I just found a new curled lipped dlc'er taunt  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:52 AM   #82 
        - Yay a thread Leprechaun, jumping about spouting random absurdities!  dave29   Dec-20-09 11:56 AM   #91 
           - Yay, it's salacious crumb sitting on Jabba's midsection  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:57 AM   #93 
           - except I'd be wearing a bikini  dave29   Dec-20-09 12:00 PM   #98 
              - Great now I need some healthcare  Moochy   Dec-20-09 12:02 PM   #102 
                 - c'mon, iz sexy  dave29   Dec-20-09 12:03 PM   #104 
           - !!!  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:02 PM   #101 
              - Clark, "Eternally Broadbrushing The Left With Cute Names" USA  Moochy   Dec-20-09 12:04 PM   #105 
                 - Clark calls liberals and war critics Al-Quadea supporters.  freddie mertz   Dec-20-09 12:08 PM   #111 
                    - i don't get it either  Moochy   Dec-20-09 12:09 PM   #113 
                    - Definitely from the (very far) right side of the fence.  freddie mertz   Dec-20-09 12:15 PM   #121 
                    - Really? Link, quote? Your mendacious whoppers are quite shameless.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:25 PM   #128 
                       - The last one got deleted.  freddie mertz   Dec-20-09 12:27 PM   #132 
                          - Really? But you said, "How he gets away with that here, I'll never understand." in reply #114.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:28 PM   #134 
                             - I was speaking in broader terms regarding your survival.  freddie mertz   Dec-20-09 12:37 PM   #135 
                                - Sure you were. And yet somehow, there isn't any proof of what you say. How convenient for you.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:51 PM   #137 
  - "But we knew that"  Moochy   Dec-20-09 11:43 AM   #67 
  - Sanders, Brown, Schumer, Weiner, Wasserman-Schultz are all FOR IT ! IT WILL PASS !!  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:51 AM   #81 
  - That's right, RB. Senator Barbara Boxer and SEIU's Andy Stern are for it, too.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:05 PM   #106 
  - Immigration reform will be very interesting  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:53 AM   #83 
     - Now that you brought it up, I believe we can bet on that happening.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:08 PM   #112 
  - You Have The Public Option of Not Owning A Car  Yavin4   Dec-20-09 11:41 AM   #64 
  - Oh cute. Tell that to the hundreds of millions who need them for their jobs, who commute...get real  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:48 AM   #74 
  - You are avoiding my answer. You skip right by it. n/t  Tom Rinaldo   Dec-20-09 11:55 AM   #88 
  - You claim 100% people need a car to survive. This is false.  Moochy   Dec-20-09 12:22 PM   #125 
  - You Can Live In Urban Areas And Not Need A Car  Yavin4   Dec-20-09 12:25 PM   #127 
  - Yes. But you have to have a body  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:53 AM   #85 
  - Because the IRS doesn't come after people that don't buy car insurance  IndianaGreen   Dec-20-09 11:44 AM   #68 
  - Wow, are you really stupid.........  KansasVoter   Dec-20-09 11:44 AM   #69 
  - People need insurance for their own health even more  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:57 AM   #92 
  - Wow. You are ultra-DUMB because you ENTIRELY miss the point.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 12:08 PM   #110 
  - Why aren't the naysayers rallying against Medicare as a boon for private hospitals?  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:46 AM   #73 
  - Stop while you are WAY behind. Are you drinking so early??  KansasVoter   Dec-20-09 11:49 AM   #78 
  - Oh, I guess the naysaying screechers are the only ones entitled to an opinion?  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 11:53 AM   #84 
  - WTF?  treestar   Dec-20-09 11:54 AM   #87 
  - May we reply back to you this way every time you post a "fucking" OP?  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:10 PM   #115 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-20-09 11:55 AM   #89 
  - You won't find consistency on this board. The volume  WestSeattle2   Dec-20-09 12:12 PM   #118 
  - Because we're conditioned to it.  tranche   Dec-20-09 11:49 AM   #77 
  - Because you don't HAVE to drive, and rates in many places are regulated.  freddie mertz   Dec-20-09 12:06 PM   #109 
  - Yes, people DO have to drive, and though regulated the PRIVATE ins. co.'s are in CONTROL.  RBInMaine   Dec-20-09 12:10 PM   #114 
     - We have a thing called "Safe Auto" in PA that insures people with less money.  freddie mertz   Dec-20-09 12:12 PM   #116 
  - My auto insurance costs less per year than my health insurance costs per month  niceypoo   Dec-20-09 12:16 PM   #122 
  - The same principle holds.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 12:19 PM   #123 
     - I can live without a car  niceypoo   Dec-20-09 12:51 PM   #138 
        - It's not all about you, y'know. The OP's point still stands.  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 01:02 PM   #140 
  - They won't discuss the issue of choice or the structure of the system  TheKentuckian   Dec-20-09 12:20 PM   #124 
  - Who says they aren't complaining?Yes, there are subsidies& no you dont have to own a car  girl_interrupted   Dec-20-09 12:27 PM   #130 
  - MANDATORY AUTO INSURANCE IS ALSO A SCAM. My car insurance in Australia was $25/year - including tax  grahamhgreen   Dec-20-09 12:27 PM   #131 
  - I'm not surprised to see you equate inanimate objects with  Bluenorthwest   Dec-20-09 12:52 PM   #139 
  - The OP is making a point on principle. Are you implying RB in Maine is part of "The Bush crowd"?  ClarkUSA   Dec-20-09 01:04 PM   #141 
     - I didn't but I can't help notice RB won't touch that we don't even have market based choice  TheKentuckian   Dec-20-09 01:57 PM   #144 
  - Most ridiculous Failpost of the day n/t  spiritual_gunfighter   Dec-20-09 02:07 PM   #145 
  - I'm locking this  proud patriot   Dec-20-09 02:10 PM   #146 

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