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| 54. As many others have written, President Clinton made bigger mistakes than DADT. |
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Like the repeal of Glass-Steagal and NAFTA, and failing to act in Rwanda. I think his biggest error was the Telecommunications Act of 1994, which has severely jeopardized freedom of the press.
But President Obama did indeed act to repeal this particular bad law, and he deserves some kudos. I think he also deserves something else, something very few Americans are willing to give him: a little patience. Give the guy some more time, like about two more years, and then judge him objectively. Grading Presidents in the first place is something with which I disagree, but doing so halfway through their terms seems to me quite unfair. Barack Obama has not accomplished everything we have wanted; I am sure he hasn't accomplished everything he wanted, either. But he has gotten some things done, and when compared to other Presidents has a damned impressive work ethic and a record of accomplishments which is stunning. Be patient with him; I think in the end he will not disappoint.
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| -President Obama corrects Bill and Hillary's greatest mistake! |
cottonseed |
Dec-18-10 12:31 PM |
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Hillary? Don't you mean Bill and Newt Gingrich? |
Lyric |
Dec-18-10 12:32 PM |
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Gingrich was House minority whip when DADT was passed. |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-20-10 03:11 PM |
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Hillary's was more of a failure to change health care. |
vaberella |
Dec-18-10 12:33 PM |
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That's a little unfair. Clinton didn't really have much choice. |
TheWraith |
Dec-18-10 12:36 PM |
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Yeah...he was in a bind on that one. It was this or no gays at all. n/t |
vaberella |
Dec-18-10 12:41 PM |
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Hillary? What about Colin Powell, Sam Nunn? |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-18-10 12:37 PM |
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I read the subject and though Obama pulled out of NAFTA |
dbonds |
Dec-18-10 12:38 PM |
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Yet when congress fucks up....its all Obama's fault. |
Lilyeye |
Dec-18-10 05:00 PM |
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You really think that? |
dbonds |
Dec-18-10 05:07 PM |
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Think in steps much? |
jberryhill |
Dec-18-10 12:38 PM |
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And it ignores the giant Elephant in the room |
ProudDad |
Dec-20-10 10:21 PM |
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I don't blame Clinton for DADT. It was an incremental step in a long journey. |
TwilightGardener |
Dec-18-10 12:38 PM |
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I think that's exactly right. |
Phx_Dem |
Dec-18-10 01:59 PM |
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it is not repealed "no strings attached" or otherwise yet nt |
msongs |
Dec-18-10 12:40 PM |
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But we leaped abut 20 steps closer. n/t |
vaberella |
Dec-18-10 12:42 PM |
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That would be deregulation and "free" trade as a tie. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-18-10 12:42 PM |
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It is a good time to note that until DADT was passed being gay sent you to prison. |
Ozymanithrax |
Dec-18-10 12:43 PM |
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Bill Clinton made many mistakes |
tularetom |
Dec-18-10 12:44 PM |
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I thought NAFTA or the WELFARE to Work fiasco was Big Bills greatest mistake/ or Maybe a blue dress |
Vincardog |
Dec-18-10 12:50 PM |
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DADT was progress at the time |
Still a Democrat |
Dec-18-10 01:00 PM |
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Dec-18-10 01:04 PM |
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True, amazing twofer. |
Safetykitten |
Dec-18-10 04:11 PM |
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Fail |
jberryhill |
Dec-18-10 01:04 PM |
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Mistake? At least Clinton had the guts to try and take in on in the first place. 18 years later |
Jennicut |
Dec-18-10 01:08 PM |
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Go away today. We are celebrating, no use for muckrakers!! |
Pisces |
Dec-18-10 01:09 PM |
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IMHO, their greatest mistake was terminating Glass-Stegall and promoting 'free' trade. (nt) |
w4rma |
Dec-18-10 01:40 PM |
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AFAIC, what you are doing is not any different than what Rush Limbaugh does because |
mtnsnake |
Dec-18-10 01:49 PM |
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Well said. Thanks for the post. |
egoclothes |
Dec-18-10 02:04 PM |
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you do the same thing except your target is Obama |
Aramchek |
Dec-18-10 02:44 PM |
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You have been following me from thread to thread lying about me like a useless little twit |
mtnsnake |
Dec-18-10 03:02 PM |
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Geez... |
ProudDad |
Dec-20-10 10:22 PM |
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k&r |
Top Cat |
Dec-18-10 03:01 PM |
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Actually, not acting on Rwanda was in my mind Bill's biggest foreign policy |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-18-10 03:06 PM |
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Hillary? I must have missed her term as President, |
Autumn |
Dec-18-10 04:08 PM |
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K&R... Obama is correcting many of Bubba's worst legislative mistakes. |
ClarkUSA |
Dec-18-10 04:13 PM |
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Hillary was not an elected official at the time |
Nite Owl |
Dec-18-10 04:28 PM |
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Repealing Glass - Stegall (sp) |
Dokkie |
Dec-18-10 04:57 PM |
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It's unfair to include Hillary. Her husband was the President, not her. |
Lilyeye |
Dec-18-10 05:02 PM |
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Fair? She at one time claimed her husband's experience as her own. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 05:23 PM |
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Well, if you're saying that Obama (and his supporters, like Greg Craig) said that she did and then |
StevieM |
Dec-18-10 07:02 PM |
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Greg Craig was an assistant and Special Counsel to President BClinton, n'est-ce pas? |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 07:15 PM |
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Dec-18-10 07:32 PM |
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Greg Craig was also foreign policy adviser to Ted Kennedy and SOS Madeleine Albright. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 07:36 PM |
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+1 |
ruggerson |
Dec-18-10 09:52 PM |
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Hmm, not so sure what was so controversial about that post... |
joshcryer |
Dec-19-10 10:01 PM |
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Yes, I do. And I consider that fact completely irrelevant, just like I did when Obama |
StevieM |
Dec-18-10 08:11 PM |
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You have missed the point entirely. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-18-10 08:27 PM |
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So before Clinton gays could serve? I missed that (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Dec-18-10 05:04 PM |
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Obama ended NAFTA? nt |
Petrus Romanus |
Dec-18-10 05:09 PM |
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Still fighting the primaries? After two years? |
former9thward |
Dec-18-10 09:47 PM |
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Why is this still open? |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-18-10 09:50 PM |
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Agreed. Bizarre, inaccurate, provocative. |
JohnnyLib2 |
Dec-18-10 10:03 PM |
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Why is it still open? |
Beacool |
Dec-20-10 11:40 AM |
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It's par for the course, and it's damn sickening |
AndrewP |
Dec-20-10 12:39 PM |
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Most of the critics have little historical perspective. |
Beacool |
Dec-20-10 09:57 PM |
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This is the new DU |
Lisa D |
Dec-20-10 03:11 PM |
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I can see someone doesn't know what they're talking about. |
donheld |
Dec-18-10 10:56 PM |
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Disagree with the premise for several reasons |
OhioBlue |
Dec-18-10 11:27 PM |
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Is there a point to this thread, other than being divisive, that is............. |
Beacool |
Dec-19-10 09:20 PM |
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Dec-20-10 10:59 PM |
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DADT was state of the art at the time |
niceypoo |
Dec-19-10 10:34 PM |
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As many others have written, President Clinton made bigger mistakes than DADT. |
Dr Morbius |
Dec-20-10 06:49 AM |
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DADT wasn't a mistake, it was a step in the right direction |
Freddie Stubbs |
Dec-20-10 03:08 PM |
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This thread should be about NAFTA |
krawhitham |
Dec-20-10 04:57 PM |
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It wasn't a mistake. It was an advance at that time. It was all that was possible at that time. |
Honeycombe8 |
Dec-20-10 06:59 PM |
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Hillary? |
mitchtv |
Dec-20-10 10:46 PM |
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