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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 11:06 PM
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85. Well there has never even been a declaration of war since WWII
According to the Constitution only Congress can declare war, but they have been ignoring the Constitution for more than a half century now which is clearly not very democratic.
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  -CNN Poll: Americans mostly agree with Obama on Afghanistan, 63% say war "morally justified" jefferson_dem  Dec-06-09 08:01 AM   #0 
  - Gallup has one too.  ipaint   Dec-06-09 08:08 AM   #1 
  - CNN conducts rigged "poll" to continue MIC raping of the  pokercat999   Dec-06-09 08:16 AM   #2 
  - "Rigged" = "Result I don't agree with".  jefferson_dem   Dec-06-09 08:20 AM   #5 
  - Agreed.  JohnnyLib2   Dec-06-09 08:42 AM   #8 
  - Do you also agree with the same poll indicating that Obama's overall approval is 48%?  mcablue   Dec-06-09 08:43 AM   #9 
  - Ohhh, playing the emotional attachment card  HughMoran   Dec-06-09 08:49 AM   #11 
  - Yeah, that poster spends  Cha   Dec-06-09 02:38 PM   #51 
  - Sure.  jefferson_dem   Dec-06-09 08:49 AM   #12 
     - Nope. I see no flaw n/t  mcablue   Dec-06-09 08:52 AM   #13 
     - Nice  HughMoran   Dec-06-09 09:04 AM   #16 
     - What about the poll cited in the first response...  Bjorn Against   Dec-06-09 04:28 PM   #66 
  - Actually I could care less what the people of  pokercat999   Dec-06-09 07:44 PM   #73 
  - more american exceptionalism  paulsby   Dec-06-09 10:28 PM   #74 
  - whats the frequency kenneth  mkultra   Dec-06-09 10:32 PM   #76 
  - +1 owned  mkultra   Dec-06-09 10:31 PM   #75 
  - Stupid people  izquierdista   Dec-06-09 08:34 AM   #6 
  - No kidding - dumbshit Americans don't even get that Congress...  polichick   Dec-06-09 08:41 AM   #7 
  - And this is going on under a Democratic administration.  arcadian   Dec-06-09 08:56 AM   #14 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Dec-06-09 09:01 AM   #15 
     - Or the cult of people who just simply don't agree with you.  Hansel   Dec-06-09 12:59 PM   #45 
        - Difference between us and them or should I say us and you?  arcadian   Dec-06-09 02:52 PM   #52 
           - LOL!  SIMPLYB1980   Dec-06-09 05:42 PM   #70 
           - yes you do, but im still on the other side.  mkultra   Dec-06-09 10:37 PM   #78 
     - No one is cheering. I'm furious that the wars are still raging.  grytpype   Dec-06-09 09:56 AM   #23 
  - Exactly, I DO believe the poll numbers.  AndrewP   Dec-06-09 06:25 PM   #71 
  - Blah de blah de blah.....  cliffordu   Dec-06-09 12:03 PM   #41 
  - Race has nothing to do with it  Garam_Masala   Dec-06-09 12:55 PM   #44 
     - Then the question is  moodforaday   Dec-06-09 01:12 PM   #47 
        - I was responding to his post about targeting "brown" people  Garam_Masala   Dec-06-09 01:20 PM   #49 
  - Yup, he has the public on his side on this one...  Imajika   Dec-06-09 08:17 AM   #3 
  - At this time (of course)  JohnnyLib2   Dec-06-09 08:44 AM   #10 
  - I seem to recall that most Americans were in favor of bombing and attacking  fasttense   Dec-06-09 08:18 AM   #4 
  - It's been 8 years and a lot of sobering has occured since initial Afghanistan & Iraq  HughMoran   Dec-06-09 09:08 AM   #17 
  - It is really sad that DU isn't united in protest of war  debbierlus   Dec-06-09 03:53 PM   #58 
     - so, did you stand against war right after 911?  mkultra   Dec-06-09 10:38 PM   #79 
  - "Morally Justified" is a lot different than do you support being there.  glowing   Dec-06-09 09:09 AM   #18 
  - So which one to believe? Gallup or CNN? n/t  chill_wind   Dec-06-09 09:30 AM   #19 
  - Believe whoever you wish  Robb   Dec-06-09 09:37 AM   #20 
  - They're both right: a majority of Americans approve of Pres. Obama's decision.  ClarkUSA   Dec-06-09 09:42 AM   #21 
  - I would suggest that those who find the war "morally justified" have no idea who Karzai is  zulchzulu   Dec-06-09 09:55 AM   #22 
  - Some other poll numbers in recent history  spiritual_gunfighter   Dec-06-09 10:17 AM   #24 
  - Graph speaks for itself.  jefferson_dem   Dec-06-09 10:29 AM   #26 
     - So are you going to predict where the Afghanistan polls  spiritual_gunfighter   Dec-06-09 12:23 PM   #42 
  - I remember getting hit with the 80% at the beginning of it  treestar   Dec-06-09 10:24 AM   #25 
  - M$M is manufacturing consent ... these polls are filled with disinformation.  ShortnFiery   Dec-06-09 10:30 AM   #27 
  - So they are basically just lying about polling data?  PBS Poll-435   Dec-06-09 10:40 AM   #29 
  - Given that a trillion of our tax dollars are now being funneled to the MIC for endless WAR ...  ShortnFiery   Dec-06-09 10:48 AM   #30 
  - Your argument is that they ARE lying.  PBS Poll-435   Dec-06-09 10:59 AM   #36 
     - BILLIONS to war mongering private corporations ====> MOTIVE. eom  ShortnFiery   Dec-06-09 11:00 AM   #37 
        - From where, for what  PBS Poll-435   Dec-06-09 11:02 AM   #38 
  - "Can you prove it?"  jefferson_dem   Dec-06-09 10:52 AM   #32 
     - Whoa! That's quite some "Spin" you've got there.  ShortnFiery   Dec-06-09 10:56 AM   #34 
        - im guessing you dont then  mkultra   Dec-06-09 10:41 PM   #80 
  - You need to update your propaganda...  jefferson_dem   Dec-06-09 10:50 AM   #31 
     - But their political CLONES are the same: WARFARE is a continuation of American Crusade 2001+  ShortnFiery   Dec-06-09 10:58 AM   #35 
  - Then Americans deserves their fate  Oregone   Dec-06-09 10:32 AM   #28 
  - No, once again the M$M and the Pentagon are working together to DUPE the average American  ShortnFiery   Dec-06-09 10:52 AM   #33 
     - Yep. It was real obvious the way David Gregory kissed  FrenchieCat   Dec-06-09 12:00 PM   #40 
        - The M$M is all for WAR because WAR = Profits for their parent company. Duh!  ShortnFiery   Dec-06-09 04:32 PM   #67 
  - I believe it. The majority thought Iraq was a swell idea too.  Forkboy   Dec-06-09 11:56 AM   #39 
  - The difference is vast, in that the PR campaign to get us to support  FrenchieCat   Dec-06-09 12:27 PM   #43 
     - The corporate media thinks  Cha   Dec-06-09 02:57 PM   #53 
     - I can't really argue with that.  Forkboy   Dec-06-09 03:38 PM   #55 
        - the reason it feels the same is because it is the same  mkultra   Dec-06-09 10:45 PM   #81 
  - Call me a 37%er then.  cherokeeprogressive   Dec-06-09 01:10 PM   #46 
  - I do not buy it...nt  and-justice-for-all   Dec-06-09 01:15 PM   #48 
  - You know they said the majority of the American People supported TARP too  Hydra   Dec-06-09 01:56 PM   #50 
  - The people probably did support TARP, when it was unknown that their livelyhood  FrenchieCat   Dec-06-09 03:49 PM   #56 
  - Actually they didn't, but it just didn't frikken matter.  chill_wind   Dec-06-09 05:01 PM   #68 
  - Not buying it either  CrawlingChaos   Dec-06-09 03:15 PM   #54 
  - And, most Americans would bomb Hiroshima, if we had to do it again  debbierlus   Dec-06-09 03:51 PM   #57 
  - And you know of this approval to bomb Hiroshima, because.....?  FrenchieCat   Dec-06-09 03:56 PM   #60 
  - Here you go  spoony   Dec-06-09 11:29 PM   #88 
  - i wouldnt  mkultra   Dec-06-09 10:47 PM   #83 
  - Most people agreed with Bush on Iraq as well  Bjorn Against   Dec-06-09 03:55 PM   #59 
  - Not the same.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-06-09 03:57 PM   #61 
  - Funny how you, of all posters, use the expression "PR machine"  brentspeak   Dec-06-09 04:03 PM   #63 
  - This war has been going on for eight years with little airplay...  Bjorn Against   Dec-06-09 04:06 PM   #64 
  - and that is exactly the PR maneuver that I have been talking about.....  FrenchieCat   Dec-06-09 05:39 PM   #69 
     - Now that is just a bunch of crap  Bjorn Against   Dec-06-09 07:07 PM   #72 
  - Yes, they are.  tekisui   Dec-07-09 10:59 AM   #90 
  - That may be, but in a democracy the majority rules  Hippo_Tron   Dec-06-09 10:34 PM   #77 
     - Democracy is about a balance between majority rule and minority rights  Bjorn Against   Dec-06-09 10:47 PM   #82 
        - It's pretty established that decisions like going to war are made by the majority (indirectly)  Hippo_Tron   Dec-06-09 10:56 PM   #84 
           - Well there has never even been a declaration of war since WWII  Bjorn Against   Dec-06-09 11:06 PM   #85 
              - The Constitution doesn't say that a declaration of war is needed to use force  Hippo_Tron   Dec-06-09 11:14 PM   #86 
  - Which means that 63% of the people CNN polled are pretty damn dumb  brentspeak   Dec-06-09 04:02 PM   #62 
  - Speaking of "pretty" and "damn dumb" how's Johnny "Hedge Fund" Edwards doing these days?  ClarkUSA   Dec-06-09 04:14 PM   #65 
  - An enlightening thread. After denying the poll (because they don't like its results)  smalll   Dec-06-09 11:21 PM   #87 
  - I believe the poll though I disagree with the President.  Jennicut   Dec-07-09 10:22 AM   #89 
 

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