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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 01:27 PM
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50. Political or not, why does it matter if it helps people?
Jesus, you and yours not only have to have what you want, you have to have it at the exact time you want it.
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  -An August Surprise from Obama? Common Sense Party  Aug-05-10 11:55 AM   #0 
  - Too late, and very ill timed  DJ13   Aug-05-10 11:59 AM   #1 
  - Thanks for proving my point  Renew Deal   Aug-05-10 12:00 PM   #3 
  - Call it whatever you want, it's stimulative and helps actual people.  tridim   Aug-05-10 12:05 PM   #10 
  - Your response makes me glad I have that person on "IGNORE!"  stevenleser   Aug-06-10 10:39 AM   #107 
  - Even though it may help some people and help the economy recover we shouldn't do it  county worker   Aug-05-10 12:05 PM   #12 
  - Im just telling you how it will be spun  DJ13   Aug-05-10 12:10 PM   #17 
  - ANYTHING will be spun adverse to Admin/Dems.  elleng   Aug-05-10 12:24 PM   #31 
  - True  DJ13   Aug-05-10 12:28 PM   #32 
  - If it's a good idea, WHY NOT DO IT????????????  Arkana   Aug-05-10 01:27 PM   #51 
  - don't worry about spin  CreekDog   Aug-05-10 04:13 PM   #84 
  - Who cares how it's spun? Obama would resusitate a dying child on the street,  Phx_Dem   Aug-05-10 04:43 PM   #87 
  - It would be spun as an election ploy anyway regardless when he did it.  SkyDaddy7   Aug-06-10 05:35 AM   #99 
  - This would inspire a backfire/backlash of gargantuan proportions.  elehhhhna   Aug-06-10 09:38 AM   #104 
  - No, because it keeps home prices artifically high  joeglow3   Aug-06-10 07:55 AM   #100 
  - Political or not, why does it matter if it helps people?  Arkana   Aug-05-10 01:27 PM   #50 
  - Obama passed the biggest stimulus in history last year, and since congress doesn't want  WI_DEM   Aug-05-10 01:43 PM   #53 
  - People have very short attention spans.  Aramchek   Aug-05-10 03:42 PM   #78 
  - If it helps people and the economy, it's the right thing to do  CreekDog   Aug-05-10 04:10 PM   #83 
  - nothing is too late if it gets to help people. n/t  vaberella   Aug-05-10 08:50 PM   #91 
  - I'm all for ploys that help average  mzmolly   Aug-06-10 10:17 AM   #105 
  - He is running out of options, given the unemployment numbers.  DailyGrind51   Aug-07-10 07:22 AM   #115 
  - It was a brilliant move when Obama wasn't doing it. Now that he might  Renew Deal   Aug-05-10 12:00 PM   #2 
  - they'll do anything but give the man some credit when credit's due.  Aramchek   Aug-05-10 03:44 PM   #79 
  - this isn't going to happen, so I'm not sure why people are arguing about it.  girl gone mad   Aug-05-10 08:44 PM   #90 
  - That is ALREADY happening, I'm currently refinancing at 125%....principial right off would do better  uponit7771   Aug-06-10 04:45 AM   #96 
  - If Robert Reich or Krugman suggested it, it would be BRILLLLIANT!  Kahuna   Aug-06-10 12:42 PM   #113 
  - Well that would be dramatic if he did.  xchrom   Aug-05-10 12:02 PM   #4 
  - "Democrats are currently expected to suffer massive, if not historic losses"  arcane1   Aug-05-10 12:03 PM   #5 
  - I noticed that.  Renew Deal   Aug-05-10 12:04 PM   #8 
  - In my more paranoid moments...  arcane1   Aug-05-10 12:10 PM   #18 
     - . . . or making any GOP victory look legitimate . . . ???  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 12:11 PM   #22 
  - the guy who wrote this is a well known hack with some of the worst "sources" on the planet  onenote   Aug-05-10 12:08 PM   #15 
  - I agree. The Senate picture is getting better. The governors races  WI_DEM   Aug-05-10 01:46 PM   #54 
     - this writer is a well known repub sympathizer, not a reporter  onenote   Aug-05-10 02:52 PM   #67 
  - while I understand the broader rationale for such a move...  mike_c   Aug-05-10 12:03 PM   #6 
  - How are you penalized?  Renew Deal   Aug-05-10 12:04 PM   #9 
  - You end up getting less house for more money. nt  Lightning Count   Aug-05-10 12:07 PM   #14 
  - I rent in a nice rural neighborhood...  mike_c   Aug-05-10 12:12 PM   #23 
  - If this deal would help only the people really in need  leftofcool   Aug-05-10 12:17 PM   #28 
  - Neither did I, and my home is currently about 33% underwater.  tridim   Aug-05-10 12:07 PM   #13 
  - what home purchase...?  mike_c   Aug-05-10 12:12 PM   #24 
  - I wish we had a name for this attitude. It goes like this. Someone is better off then me so  county worker   Aug-05-10 12:08 PM   #16 
  - WTF are you talking about?  mike_c   Aug-05-10 12:13 PM   #25 
  - Doesn't this cut both ways? I.e; my neighbor's house isn't under water,  Flatulo   Aug-05-10 12:18 PM   #29 
  - I've been up and down so many times I lost count.  county worker   Aug-05-10 12:34 PM   #36 
  - But such a break has to be paid for by someone. I'd rather see money  Flatulo   Aug-05-10 12:37 PM   #38 
  - I bought my house in 2004 and it's now worth less than the mortgage  CreekDog   Aug-05-10 04:18 PM   #85 
  - We usually call that, being a repuke or teabagger. nt  Kahuna   Aug-06-10 12:45 PM   #114 
  - I understand what you're saying...  femrap   Aug-05-10 12:16 PM   #27 
  - +1  leftofcool   Aug-05-10 12:19 PM   #30 
  - Yes - It rewards past poor judgment ,  dipsydoodle   Aug-05-10 12:31 PM   #34 
  - You may not like this either.  county worker   Aug-05-10 01:12 PM   #47 
  - Not true in all cases  pezDispenser   Aug-05-10 01:51 PM   #57 
  - Have you tried a home modification loan?  kjackson227   Aug-05-10 03:13 PM   #70 
     - thanks for the tip  pezDispenser   Aug-05-10 04:49 PM   #89 
  - Your premise is presumputuous and false, we took on WAAAAAY less debt than our salaries WHEN we both  uponit7771   Aug-06-10 04:47 AM   #97 
  - agreed.  tomp   Aug-06-10 12:51 AM   #95 
  - Brilliant Move, It Will Immediatley Lower MANY People's Mortgage Payments And That Will Be REAL $$$$  Beetwasher   Aug-05-10 12:04 PM   #7 
  - This is wonderful. Anytime the little man can get ahead is a good thing.  Xenotime   Aug-05-10 12:05 PM   #11 
  - This doesn't necessarily  femrap   Aug-05-10 12:10 PM   #19 
  - Maybe helps BOTH 'little guy' and McMansion guy. So?  elleng   Aug-05-10 12:30 PM   #33 
     - You really want to  femrap   Aug-05-10 12:37 PM   #39 
     - wtf???  elleng   Aug-05-10 12:53 PM   #43 
        - Pulled - on second though, re-reading his post - I think you're right.  superconnected   Aug-05-10 12:59 PM   #45 
           - thx  elleng   Aug-05-10 01:54 PM   #59 
     - What about the "little guys" (and girls) who rent?  Sebastian Doyle   Aug-05-10 12:48 PM   #41 
        - You don't and you probably won't.  JoeyT   Aug-05-10 03:09 PM   #69 
        - Oh, I'm already there.  Sebastian Doyle   Aug-05-10 04:35 PM   #86 
        - In most areas of the country renters are statistically less apt to vote  dflprincess   Aug-05-10 09:44 PM   #94 
        - You will get a nice big stick up the ass.  joeglow3   Aug-06-10 07:57 AM   #101 
  - The little man generally rents.  JVS   Aug-05-10 03:17 PM   #74 
  - Goiod for Obama, Dems and the US of A  jpak   Aug-05-10 12:10 PM   #20 
  - Freddie and Fannie are still looking for $8 billion in bailouts????  defendandprotect   Aug-05-10 12:10 PM   #21 
  - Bush's HARP  Turbineguy   Aug-05-10 12:14 PM   #26 
  - I wouldn't object to this for people whose homes are actually in forclosure due to job loss  Flatulo   Aug-05-10 12:32 PM   #35 
  - +1  mike_c   Aug-05-10 12:34 PM   #37 
  - Now that does sound fairer.  dipsydoodle   Aug-05-10 12:48 PM   #40 
  - This wouldn't establish that as a new right at all. BIGGEST RECESSION IN 70+ YEARS.  phleshdef   Aug-05-10 01:54 PM   #58 
  - Agreed!  JVS   Aug-05-10 03:22 PM   #76 
  - Only if a person was lied to about the investment or a few bubbled a market and let it crash  uponit7771   Aug-06-10 04:50 AM   #98 
  - So if that happens  Gecko6400   Aug-05-10 12:52 PM   #42 
  - To all of the DUers tjat bemoan the 'rich' getting by;  greiner3   Aug-05-10 12:57 PM   #44 
  - Now this is a bailout package,  riskpeace   Aug-05-10 01:06 PM   #46 
  - Reward bad money management? Not just No, but Hell No!  laureloak   Aug-05-10 01:25 PM   #48 
  - Yeah, cause actively giving the American people the middle finger works so well  Arkana   Aug-05-10 01:28 PM   #52 
  - I'm an American Democrat,  bvar22   Aug-05-10 02:02 PM   #62 
  - So bailout the big guys but not average people? I think everybody deserves another chance.  WI_DEM   Aug-05-10 01:47 PM   #55 
  - THis is bailing out the bog guys  AngryAmish   Aug-06-10 10:41 AM   #108 
  - Right. We are experiencing record foreclosures just because people made bad decisions.  phleshdef   Aug-05-10 01:49 PM   #56 
  - Massive and in all other ways Total FAIL n/t  stevenleser   Aug-06-10 10:43 AM   #109 
  - We shall see.  Arkana   Aug-05-10 01:26 PM   #49 
  - And to renters: You get nothing, once again.  Ignis   Aug-05-10 01:55 PM   #60 
  - People in poverty who rent have and have had government assistance programs available for ages.  phleshdef   Aug-05-10 01:57 PM   #61 
     - Oh, did I specify "renters in poverty?"  Ignis   Aug-05-10 02:04 PM   #63 
        - As a renter for 10 years and a home buyer for the past 2, no I don't see the problem.  phleshdef   Aug-05-10 02:12 PM   #64 
           - Well, that's nice for you that you end up owning a house.  Ignis   Aug-05-10 02:57 PM   #68 
              - That has nothing to do with what you were talking about.  phleshdef   Aug-05-10 03:16 PM   #72 
                 - No, I mentioned tax benefits as a part of the larger whole.  Ignis   Aug-05-10 03:19 PM   #75 
  - Brillent move  Robbins   Aug-05-10 02:24 PM   #65 
  - Well, it might be too late for some, but a lot will still be helped from it. eom  kjackson227   Aug-05-10 02:30 PM   #66 
  - A bloody terrible idea.  JoeyT   Aug-05-10 03:13 PM   #71 
  - That's the correct answer. Which is why JOBS should have been  Common Sense Party   Aug-05-10 03:17 PM   #73 
  - + 10000000000 nt  woo me with science   Aug-05-10 03:35 PM   #77 
  - funny, people whose homes will be saved think it's genius  Aramchek   Aug-05-10 03:45 PM   #80 
  - Except you need Congress to pass a bill to do this. Aint't gonna happen.  flpoljunkie   Aug-06-10 08:06 AM   #102 
     - +100000000 yes, the person to whom you are responding needs to come up with 60 votes in the senate  stevenleser   Aug-06-10 10:48 AM   #111 
  - Rumors that Republicans believe - not even bothering with sources now  grantcart   Aug-05-10 03:50 PM   #81 
  - Yep, if I had a dollar for everytime Reuters and AP did this. I wrote an article a few years back  stevenleser   Aug-06-10 10:51 AM   #112 
  - tere is one BIG worry for me in this  backwoodsbob   Aug-05-10 03:50 PM   #82 
  - the money has to come from somewhere  MikeW   Aug-05-10 08:53 PM   #92 
  - How do we know this is not just another trap  BootinUp   Aug-05-10 04:46 PM   #88 
  - Dumb move. It is so obviously political and not altruistic  LittleBlue   Aug-05-10 09:33 PM   #93 
  - Meh.  Javaman   Aug-06-10 08:28 AM   #103 
  - So Many Are Saying...  Steely_Dan   Aug-06-10 10:27 AM   #106 
     - Evidently, some have forgotten that and the banks' role in the meltdown, as well.  flpoljunkie   Aug-06-10 10:45 AM   #110 

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