Reply #26: Well, if you believe in a universe ...

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where you think the failure of this bill will lead to a British style single-payer system here in our lifetimes, there is little we can discuss. Because I don't believe such a universe exists, except in science fiction. If the bill fails and the status quo prevails, it will make it harder and harder to achieve that goal ever: the insurance industry will become ever richer and more powerful and, especially in light of last week's SCOTUS decision, will be able to lobby even more effectively in the future. We won't get better, we'll get nothing. And in the meantime, important regulations, reforms, and assistance will be lost.

Again, we have no ideological differences ... but a huge difference in tactics.