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motorcityliberal Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-02-10 02:44 PM
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467. Telling real truth to real power
It's like some of these folks live in a fantasy world where if only Dennis Kucinich or Howard Dean were president they would be steam rolling the Republicans right now, the Republicans would be pulling this same stunt no matter who was sitting in the oval office. I have to repeat this the House Dems did their job by passing truly progressive legislation and what did the progressive do? Stayed home and rewarded the Republican obstruction in the senate by making sure more House Republicans were elected. So for the next two years thanks to progressive taking their ball and going home, President Obama will be either explaining to Darrell GTA Issa what he had on a pizza last Tuesday night or will be vetoing every wing nut bill that leaves the house.

As for Cenk Ugyur I take whatever he says with a grain of salt, sorry TYT fanboys and Ihavenobias your boy doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. Before Ihavenobias come up with some long winded spin job to defend his boy here's a example of Cenk speaking out his ass "The other “Progressives Against Obama” member I’ll take to the woodshed today is radio and TV host Cenk Uygur, for whom the Kagan nomination likewise is not really about Kagan but about Obama himself. He writes:

“My problem with her is my problem with Obama. Cheney and Bush moved the ball 80 yards down-field (sic, as anyone who knows the NFL spells it downfield, without hyphen), whether that was on executive power, warrantless wiretapping, pre-emptive wars or just about any other issue you can think of. And Obama's bold and brilliant response is to move the ball 10 yards in the opposite direction. Not good enough. Not remotely good enough…

“He is never going to throw the ball down the field. If you like two yard pick-ups by a running-back going straight up the middle, you'll love Obama. It's the Eddie George presidency. What he doesn't seem to get is that the other side is eventually going to get the ball back and then it won't seem like a major accomplishment that we went from our own two-yard line to our own twelve-yard line. It'll be viewed as a tremendous disappointment.”

Actually, Mr. Uygur, you ought to get to know the games of football and of politics before nominating yourself as head coach or quarterback. You should at least know the rules of the game. In football, moving the ball ten yards downfield is precisely good enough. It is called gaining a first down, that which allows your team to remain in possession of the ball and keep battling downfield toward touchdowns and field goals, while denying the opposing team time on the clock to do so.

The name-dropping of running back Eddie George is also revealing as to just how greatly Uygur’s comparison fails epically: Eddie George, at Ohio State University, won the Heisman Trophy in 1995, and he rushed for more than 10,000 yards in only eight years in the NFL (presidents, by law, can’t last more than eight) and George helped bring his middling team to the Super Bowl in just four years, one first down at a time. In his first season with the Houston Oilers-cum-Tennessee Titans franchise (when George earned the NFL’s Rookie of the Year title), the team won just eight games to eight losses. By 1999, the Titans had 13 wins to three losses and went to the Super Bowl.

What got them there? First downs and ball possession, largely thanks to Eddie George: That team won by running the ball up the field three or four yards per play.

Guys like Solomon and probably Uygur (the jury is still out on the latter) are a bit distinct from pond scum like Greenwald and Hamsher, who are only in it for their own protagonist careers. The former are more akin to those fans in the bleachers always screaming at the quarterback to throw the long ball even against teams skilled at interceptions.

Meanwhile, the new star quarterback keeps controlling the ball, marching the team downfield, winning first downs every ten yards, and the Kagan confirmation is another touchdown that soon will happen. And then Obama’s second draft pick for the US Supreme Court can begin tag-teaming Justice Kennedy along with Justice Sotomayor and concretely move the Court to the left.

Thus, those who claim that the Kagan nomination “moves the court to the right” reveal only their gross ignorance about the dynamics of the US Supreme Court in the present day. And the unflappable head-coach-in-chief is absolutely correct to ignore the cat-calls from the armchair quarterbacks in the bleachers who have never won a game, and thus have no idea how it is really done." Again from Al Giordano's The Field blog.

Lastly what's pisses me off about this narrative of I'm not voting for President Obama is the same people making this claim will be the same assholes whining and crying about the next Republican president.
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