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Edited on Sat May-22-10 05:28 PM by northernlights
after I specified that I've paid in SS taxes. Hundreds of thousands in, to be clear.  typical drama? A lot of people would not have survived what I've been through. Just the last 10 years: 20+ year career crashed, left to fend for myself by the police during 3 years of 24x7 harrassment by a registered sex offender and his gang of thugs (their only help was to advise me to get out of town), defrauded out of $20K+ in real estate transaction that in any other state would have left realtor liable, identity stolen (including SSN, former and current address & phone, employment and education history) by former colleague and his wife using "inside company information," poisoned by an employer and told by the state labor dept. that they can "do anything they want and if you don't like it, get another job", property trashed by contractor with bulldozer (no licensing or oversight in this hellhole of a state), harrassment by freeper neighbors (most recently next door neighbors tried to run over my dogs in our own driveway). You have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. And the only one trying to generate intergeneration warfare is YOU, implying I should suck it up and give up social security because it will supposedly be such a hardship for the generation behind. ALL I WROTE IS THAT I PAID INTO THE SYSTEM; HOW IS THAT INTERGENERATION WARFARE? I SURE AS HELL BETTER GET BACK. BECAUSE AFTER ALL THE SHIT OF THE LAST 10 YEARS, WITHOUT SSN I WILL END UP IN THE STREETS. AND SO WILL MILLIONS LIKE ME. DON'T THINK I'LL TAKE THAT LYING DOWN, EITHER.
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| -Greider at The Nation on how they are "reforming" Social Security without saying it out loud. |
madfloridian |
May-21-10 05:06 PM |
#0 |
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How dare Obama turn against Social Security? |
CaliforniaPeggy |
May-21-10 05:13 PM |
#1 |
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This is not what I expect from a supposedly Democratic President. |
DJ13 |
May-21-10 05:17 PM |
#2 |
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+1,000 n/t |
tonysam |
May-21-10 05:27 PM |
#4 |
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Some of us saw the "stealth" before, but were attacked if we dared hint at it. |
bobbolink |
May-21-10 10:20 PM |
#40 |
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+1,000,000 |
zabet |
May-22-10 08:00 AM |
#51 |
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Exactly |
peace frog |
May-22-10 09:08 AM |
#57 |
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I never attacked anyone, |
dgibby |
May-22-10 10:18 AM |
#91 |
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AMEN! |
ShortnFiery |
May-22-10 02:11 PM |
#146 |
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Yours is the pain that bothers me the most about all of this..... people who have had their trust |
bobbolink |
May-22-10 07:04 PM |
#216 |
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Why didn't they index it to cover increases in life expectancy? |
TampaAnimus2010 |
May-23-10 02:29 PM |
#250 |
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Having phone banked and beat the streets for this four flusher |
ooglymoogly |
May-22-10 11:31 AM |
#108 |
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I'm with you......I feel quite betrayed. n/t |
whathehell |
May-22-10 05:25 PM |
#197 |
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We once drove 100 miles to see the 4 flusher now I wouldn't cross the street. |
Peregrine Took |
May-22-10 05:53 PM |
#207 |
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Absolutely |
MissDeeds |
May-22-10 03:18 PM |
#161 |
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Unfortunately, both Hillary (a corporatist hawk) and Edwards (a monumental douche) are as bad |
liberation |
May-22-10 03:41 PM |
#168 |
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It is time for a monumental effort for a write in campaign |
ooglymoogly |
May-23-10 12:31 PM |
#243 |
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I have said that for a long time now. He is a DINO, a hired gun |
icee |
May-22-10 09:13 AM |
#60 |
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Obama not a democrat? |
Citizen Worker |
May-22-10 09:31 AM |
#66 |
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Not just Hillary and Obama, |
bvar22 |
May-22-10 11:14 AM |
#102 |
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They are doing God's work |
avaistheone1 |
May-22-10 01:44 PM |
#134 |
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The simple fact is |
Mike K |
May-22-10 02:20 PM |
#151 |
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"Brand Obama"... |
bvar22 |
May-22-10 03:18 PM |
#162 |
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That's not entirely true |
nichomachus |
May-22-10 04:19 PM |
#178 |
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Just one more betrayal in a very long line, Peggy. |
dgibby |
May-22-10 10:15 AM |
#90 |
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Clinton did the same deal--and except for Monica, would have |
bbgrunt |
May-22-10 01:46 PM |
#135 |
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Beyond forming a committee which doesn't appear to have done anything yet |
Telly Savalas |
May-22-10 02:11 PM |
#147 |
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He didn't get the votes for the binding proposal so he went Executive Order |
TheKentuckian |
May-23-10 12:42 AM |
#229 |
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The notion that the President is secretly reforming Social Security is ludicrous. |
ProSense |
May-21-10 05:26 PM |
#3 |
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Coming from you I take anything you say with a grain of salt. |
tonysam |
May-21-10 05:28 PM |
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Thanks for letting me know. n/t |
ProSense |
May-21-10 05:32 PM |
#8 |
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+1000! |
SammyWinstonJack |
May-22-10 08:35 AM |
#55 |
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Clearly! nt |
ooglymoogly |
May-22-10 11:35 AM |
#110 |
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Agreed. |
closeupready |
May-22-10 03:59 PM |
#173 |
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Do not be surprised when Grieder is proven correct. |
OHdem10 |
May-21-10 06:47 PM |
#20 |
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So far he's batting 1000. |
glitch |
May-21-10 09:49 PM |
#28 |
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Well, he's not correct about it being a secret. |
ProSense |
May-21-10 10:09 PM |
#37 |
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Yeah like not assessing even the barest |
ooglymoogly |
May-22-10 11:47 AM |
#113 |
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that's a senate report, not the report of the deficit commission. & some of |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 01:51 PM |
#138 |
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Remember all the good things we were going to get out of |
ooglymoogly |
May-22-10 07:38 PM |
#218 |
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And O gets away with it solely because of that stinking "D" after his name. |
bobbolink |
May-22-10 09:35 PM |
#222 |
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I no longer believe anything you say. No matter what he does, |
icee |
May-22-10 09:18 AM |
#61 |
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+ 100000. |
freddie mertz |
May-22-10 09:55 AM |
#74 |
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So the article from the Senate Committee of Aging is a forgery? |
Telly Savalas |
May-22-10 02:14 PM |
#148 |
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Pot meet kettle, when everything you say goes against him, your |
treestar |
May-22-10 03:43 PM |
#170 |
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Way past that with this one... But, clearly, I see where you are. |
icee |
May-22-10 04:28 PM |
#184 |
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There are several like that here |
MissDeeds |
May-22-10 04:40 PM |
#187 |
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Yeah. I understand what you mean. Let's alls stick together. |
icee |
May-22-10 04:57 PM |
#192 |
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Works for me |
MissDeeds |
May-22-10 05:08 PM |
#194 |
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Unfortunately, I don't think so. I think everyone is either too beaten down, or just mesmerized. |
bobbolink |
May-22-10 09:37 PM |
#223 |
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And that, sir, is my greatest fear. For then we are truly doomed. I |
icee |
May-22-10 11:36 PM |
#226 |
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Your scenario gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "Just shoot me". |
bobbolink |
May-23-10 07:28 PM |
#257 |
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Bookmarking. nt |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 09:18 AM |
#62 |
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If you deny it, there must be something to it. |
freddie mertz |
May-22-10 09:53 AM |
#73 |
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+1 |
Yuugal |
May-22-10 04:09 PM |
#176 |
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THANK YOU! |
Change Happens |
May-22-10 10:06 AM |
#84 |
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Considering how your batting average is .000, NOW I'm really worried. |
donco6 |
May-22-10 10:59 AM |
#98 |
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Yes, this has been debunked before. |
tabatha |
May-22-10 04:13 PM |
#177 |
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Read who is on the debt commission. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 06:42 PM |
#211 |
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Correct Me If I Am Misinformed |
Me. |
May-21-10 05:28 PM |
#5 |
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"cannot act without a vote in Congress" |
ProSense |
May-21-10 05:31 PM |
#6 |
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I'm Not Sure About Unsubstantiated |
Me. |
May-21-10 10:12 PM |
#38 |
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Vigilance.... Always. |
whathehell |
May-22-10 09:18 AM |
#63 |
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And that is only because the Senate did not pass the bill for the creation of the commission. |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 09:31 AM |
#65 |
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A couple of important points: |
Lasher |
May-23-10 12:07 AM |
#227 |
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We dodged the first bullet, |
bvar22 |
May-23-10 02:38 PM |
#251 |
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Obama's mother-in-law will straighten him out soon enough...n/t |
monmouth |
May-21-10 05:31 PM |
#7 |
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I'll eat my shorts if politicians actually vote to end Social Security. |
Lone_Star_Dem |
May-21-10 05:32 PM |
#9 |
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Maybe we need to means test it though. |
dkf |
May-21-10 05:37 PM |
#10 |
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No we don't need to means test it, but we do need to remove the payroll tax cap. (nt) |
w4rma |
May-22-10 08:23 AM |
#53 |
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If we did that, wouldn't the people making huge salaries get an even bigger check when they retire? |
CrispyQ |
May-22-10 09:12 AM |
#59 |
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The relationship between paying in & taking out later is not linear. |
Jackpine Radical |
May-22-10 10:03 AM |
#81 |
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+1000 nt |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 09:32 AM |
#67 |
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removing the cap is a trojan horse intended to dissolve support for the program |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:01 PM |
#142 |
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Means testing will make it easier for them to completely dismantle it |
bullwinkle428 |
May-22-10 10:09 AM |
#87 |
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I believe a 'means test' |
femrap |
May-22-10 11:59 AM |
#119 |
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Thank you for that post, femrap. I agree with you. |
bertman |
May-22-10 01:51 PM |
#137 |
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more means-testing is a trojan horse intended to dissolve support for the program |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 01:59 PM |
#141 |
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I guess |
femrap |
May-22-10 04:54 PM |
#190 |
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Social security is financed by workers; the well-heeled pay more (total) going in; |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 01:16 AM |
#234 |
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I don't disagree with you. |
femrap |
May-23-10 03:47 PM |
#253 |
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social security is already means-tested through the tax on benefits. |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 01:57 PM |
#140 |
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Absolutely. |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 02:37 PM |
#154 |
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Nowhere did I say they would "end" it. |
madfloridian |
May-21-10 05:42 PM |
#11 |
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Correct. I will eat my shorts if politicians vote to privatize Social Security |
Lone_Star_Dem |
May-21-10 05:47 PM |
#12 |
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No, NO..They aren't going to "END" Social Security. |
bvar22 |
May-21-10 06:02 PM |
#16 |
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I've learned to be on the lookout |
tango-tee |
May-22-10 07:51 AM |
#50 |
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None so blind as those...nt |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 09:34 AM |
#68 |
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Yup, yup. That's it. Lying liars that lie. |
TheKentuckian |
May-22-10 09:59 AM |
#78 |
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Yep |
femrap |
May-22-10 12:04 PM |
#120 |
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+1 |
Change Happens |
May-22-10 10:05 AM |
#83 |
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they won't. they'll vote for "tweaks" intended to divide support for it. |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 01:57 PM |
#139 |
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There will never be a vote to "end Social Security." |
Mike K |
May-22-10 04:05 PM |
#175 |
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Recommend - small nuanced changes enacted by congress |
xchrom |
May-21-10 05:48 PM |
#13 |
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Greider's article is also at MichaelMoore.com |
bananas |
May-21-10 05:53 PM |
#14 |
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Thanks for that link. Having trouble staying logged in at The Nation |
madfloridian |
May-21-10 06:07 PM |
#17 |
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Hands Off Social Security and Medicare! We need them !! //nt |
Overseas |
May-21-10 06:00 PM |
#15 |
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The seeds for the destruction of Medicare have already been planted... |
bvar22 |
May-22-10 11:24 AM |
#106 |
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that's how they do it. they never do it all at once; that would arouse too much opposition. |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:03 PM |
#143 |
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Take time to read all of the Alternet article. |
madfloridian |
May-21-10 06:11 PM |
#18 |
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The timing of the commission's recommendations is telling, is it not? |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 09:39 AM |
#69 |
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IF done, neither he nor we will see a Democratic President in 2012...or EVER AGAIN. |
WinkyDink |
May-21-10 06:19 PM |
#19 |
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He is our Tony Blair, as someone said. He IS in office with an agenda. |
Hardrada |
May-21-10 09:16 PM |
#21 |
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+1,000. |
katandmoon |
May-21-10 09:25 PM |
#23 |
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I am sure he feels he's doing God's work. |
glitch |
May-21-10 09:52 PM |
#31 |
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+ kazillion...nt |
femrap |
May-22-10 12:07 PM |
#122 |
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He is beyond your stale tired ideological debates and petty partisan bickering! |
kenny blankenship |
May-22-10 12:45 PM |
#127 |
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I said that. It becomes clearer every day. |
icee |
May-22-10 04:33 PM |
#185 |
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Now you have done it! I had a fairly good day - babysat 4 great |
jwirr |
May-21-10 09:23 PM |
#22 |
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Other than the usual liberal groups, I don't think Senior Citizens have ever organized . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-21-10 09:52 PM |
#30 |
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I don't think that would work this time. The guns will come out |
icee |
May-22-10 09:23 AM |
#64 |
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'normal teaparty people' |
femrap |
May-22-10 12:11 PM |
#123 |
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When AARP started it was an advocacy group and had some clout |
nichomachus |
May-22-10 04:22 PM |
#179 |
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delete |
nichomachus |
May-22-10 04:22 PM |
#180 |
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seniors organized as the Gray Panthers in the 1970s to fight mandatory retirement |
ima_sinnic |
May-22-10 05:34 PM |
#205 |
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No surprise. Wait til Medicare is privatized now that the new health insurance mandate is in place |
Nikki Stone1 |
May-21-10 09:28 PM |
#24 |
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The cuts HCR made to Medicare is the set up for that. |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 09:44 AM |
#72 |
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Yes thats the way right wing governments do it. |
LiberalLovinLug |
May-22-10 01:21 PM |
#131 |
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Thank you - I'm bookmarking this |
dana_b |
May-21-10 09:29 PM |
#25 |
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Agree and thank you |
Carter Hayes |
May-21-10 09:39 PM |
#26 |
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I like this paragraph from the Greider article: |
LongTomH |
May-21-10 09:41 PM |
#27 |
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+all in. nt |
glitch |
May-21-10 09:54 PM |
#33 |
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Agree with you and, ironically, as far as I know, Seniors have never organized????? |
defendandprotect |
May-21-10 09:54 PM |
#34 |
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? |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:06 PM |
#144 |
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Thank you -- hadn't heard much about them . . . even here at DU!! |
defendandprotect |
May-22-10 11:27 PM |
#224 |
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they used to get quite a bit of press -- not so much these days. but seniors also |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 04:14 AM |
#235 |
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Thanks for the info -- and I think we should get them back in picture . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-23-10 02:14 PM |
#249 |
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One more reason we need a more liberal/progressive candidate in 2012 . . . |
defendandprotect |
May-21-10 09:50 PM |
#29 |
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Don't you mean 2012? n/t |
ColesCountyDem |
May-21-10 10:43 PM |
#42 |
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Thank you . . . we need a liberal/progressive Dem candidate 2012. . . !! |
defendandprotect |
May-21-10 10:45 PM |
#43 |
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The Nation is so slow tonight...try this link from xchrom above. |
madfloridian |
May-21-10 09:54 PM |
#32 |
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Thanks for this. |
sabrina 1 |
May-21-10 09:58 PM |
#35 |
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I think their job should be the least they lose. |
glitch |
May-21-10 10:05 PM |
#36 |
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Not just the Cato Institute, but the Republican Wing of the Democratic Party, the DLC. |
bvar22 |
May-22-10 11:44 AM |
#111 |
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Amazing , this is something I would |
Autumn |
May-21-10 10:17 PM |
#39 |
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TPM's Josh Marshall once called it "phasing out" Social Security. |
madfloridian |
May-21-10 10:23 PM |
#41 |
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exactly. if they abolished it all at once, people would be up in arms. it's |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:09 PM |
#145 |
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Not so sure Obama is a Democrat, not at this point. |
SammyWinstonJack |
May-22-10 08:47 AM |
#56 |
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After his speech |
Autumn |
May-22-10 09:58 AM |
#77 |
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I find myself more and more unable to listen, |
dgibby |
May-22-10 10:31 AM |
#93 |
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K+R Thank you for keeping us informed again Madflo. |
saracat |
May-22-10 02:50 AM |
#44 |
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Privatizing |
bonnieS |
May-22-10 06:43 AM |
#45 |
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This is what I am saying. |
Enthusiast |
May-22-10 07:50 AM |
#48 |
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Is Obama even a |
Enthusiast |
May-22-10 07:36 AM |
#46 |
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Wow! The news gets worse all the time. |
Time for change |
May-22-10 07:39 AM |
#47 |
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k&r |
blindpig |
May-22-10 07:50 AM |
#49 |
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If Obama's picks on that council try to support cutting benifits then Obama is toast. |
w4rma |
May-22-10 08:10 AM |
#52 |
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Guess who is exec director of the debt commission. Bruce Reed. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 08:33 AM |
#54 |
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How many here are within "shouting distance" of retirement?....I am and this REALLY pisses me off ! |
whathehell |
May-22-10 09:12 AM |
#58 |
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This would be an attack on the Baby Boomers....Wow. |
whathehell |
May-22-10 09:41 AM |
#70 |
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The time for raising hell is now |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 10:02 AM |
#80 |
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I agree...What can/should we do?...For one thing, should we re-institute the CFA's Pledge? |
whathehell |
May-22-10 10:38 AM |
#94 |
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CFA pledge would be a good start |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 11:11 AM |
#100 |
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I believe Campaign for America's Future started this...They may be the people to go back to. |
whathehell |
May-22-10 11:16 AM |
#103 |
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Good information. Thanks. nt |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 11:22 AM |
#105 |
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Your very welcome.....I've got more information here about the convention. |
whathehell |
May-22-10 11:53 AM |
#114 |
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I think it starts about June 7 this year. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 11:46 AM |
#112 |
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Yes, it starts on June 7th...Check out the post below yours. I have more details. |
whathehell |
May-22-10 11:55 AM |
#115 |
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Sorry...I meant the post Above yours...I've got the details here, at any rate. |
whathehell |
May-22-10 11:57 AM |
#116 |
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peterson's group is planning a major propaganda offensive in june - with town halls, etc. |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:16 PM |
#149 |
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That is so disturbing. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 03:28 PM |
#165 |
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Thanks for that....We should prepare for it. n/t |
whathehell |
May-22-10 05:32 PM |
#203 |
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yes. organizing & getting the word out should be happening now. |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 12:47 AM |
#231 |
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Thanks for posting this link - looks like a great site! n/t |
Peregrine Took |
May-22-10 06:05 PM |
#208 |
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K & R |
Dinger |
May-22-10 09:43 AM |
#71 |
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The first post-baby boom, Reagan-era president. |
freddie mertz |
May-22-10 09:57 AM |
#75 |
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I've long felt that |
femrap |
May-22-10 12:51 PM |
#128 |
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One IMPORTANT thing, the money you speak about is not there --- Already spent by our government(s) |
Change Happens |
May-22-10 09:58 AM |
#76 |
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Fix it without privatizing it. Fix it without destroying it. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 10:07 AM |
#85 |
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Agreed..nt |
Change Happens |
May-23-10 06:50 AM |
#236 |
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Yes, they have 'borrowed' from the fund constantly... |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 10:11 AM |
#88 |
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So true...Yes, and very sad for our country |
Change Happens |
May-23-10 06:52 AM |
#237 |
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True...but isn't this exactly where the "fight" has always been?.. |
whathehell |
May-22-10 11:14 AM |
#101 |
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Like HELL it's not !!!!! |
westerebus |
May-22-10 11:59 AM |
#118 |
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+ a few trillion. nt |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 12:27 PM |
#125 |
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I didn't want to count all the mortgages we own. |
westerebus |
May-22-10 01:50 PM |
#136 |
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I fear |
femrap |
May-22-10 12:57 PM |
#129 |
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I know how you feel. |
westerebus |
May-22-10 01:18 PM |
#130 |
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Thanks for reminding me.... |
femrap |
May-22-10 01:24 PM |
#133 |
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Well Said! |
KoKo |
May-22-10 01:22 PM |
#132 |
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thanks. |
westerebus |
May-22-10 02:17 PM |
#150 |
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the money in your bank account is also "spent". |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:29 PM |
#152 |
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The only fix is to be accountable and call in the IOUs. n/t |
Catherina |
May-23-10 12:42 PM |
#246 |
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fuck him |
fascisthunter |
May-22-10 10:02 AM |
#79 |
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Who? |
Change Happens |
May-22-10 10:04 AM |
#82 |
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I participated in a focus group and the gist of it was to figure out how to inform |
flamingdem |
May-22-10 10:08 AM |
#86 |
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Interesting...I already knew of that option, but I wanted it to be a choice, not a mandate. n/t |
whathehell |
May-22-10 10:57 AM |
#97 |
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Part of the plan is to have private investment firms benefit more.... |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 12:33 PM |
#126 |
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the problem with that is that additional life expectancy has mostly accrued to the |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:37 PM |
#155 |
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Obama's Ugly New America discards the elderly, poor, sick- a national disgrace. |
n.michigan |
May-22-10 10:12 AM |
#89 |
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Doug Henwood has also been on this for a long time... |
JHB |
May-22-10 10:20 AM |
#92 |
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great charts. these facts need to get out there. |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:39 PM |
#156 |
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Oopps, a dupe |
John Q. Citizen |
May-22-10 10:47 AM |
#95 |
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Thanks for the great articles on Social Security, |
John Q. Citizen |
May-22-10 10:49 AM |
#96 |
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JUST sent a clip from this to WHITEHOUSE.GOV... asking HOW DARE YOU.... please do as well |
happygoluckytoyou |
May-22-10 11:08 AM |
#99 |
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While it's true that the math surrounding Social Security |
customerserviceguy |
May-22-10 11:17 AM |
#104 |
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Our payroll taxes financed the tax cuts for the wealthy. |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 11:34 AM |
#109 |
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They financed all kinds of things |
customerserviceguy |
May-22-10 12:06 PM |
#121 |
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Retirement age has already been raised and benefits are already barely enough to stave off ... |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 12:24 PM |
#124 |
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the money was borrowed by capital; over 1 trillion in income tax cuts to the top 1% |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:41 PM |
#157 |
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Agreed, they don't want to pay it back |
customerserviceguy |
May-23-10 11:39 AM |
#239 |
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it's not a ponzi scheme. |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 11:45 AM |
#240 |
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It's being run like one |
customerserviceguy |
May-23-10 11:58 AM |
#241 |
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it's not a ponzi scheme. my retirement plans are immaterial to this discussion. |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 12:07 PM |
#242 |
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OK, you keep on believing that, if you want to |
customerserviceguy |
May-23-10 12:40 PM |
#245 |
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i will continue to believe it because it's true. SS is nothing like a ponzi scheme, |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 12:55 PM |
#247 |
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K&R |
amborin |
May-22-10 11:26 AM |
#107 |
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The BEST fix. |
bvar22 |
May-22-10 11:57 AM |
#117 |
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Lots of big rhetoric without specifics here. |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 02:34 PM |
#153 |
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there's no scenario under which young people wind up paying 1/3 of their income to subsidize |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 02:46 PM |
#158 |
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We're nearly there already. |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 03:21 PM |
#163 |
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exactly the same % taken out of my check: 7.65%. Medicaid is funded through income taxes & state |
Hannah Bell |
May-22-10 03:39 PM |
#166 |
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I'm an hourly wage worker. |
Kermitt Gribble |
May-22-10 04:23 PM |
#181 |
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That's a very big chunk. |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 05:28 PM |
#200 |
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income tax has nothing to do with social security. social security tax is 6.2% of your paycheck. |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 12:33 AM |
#228 |
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And when you're old and retired, |
Kermitt Gribble |
May-23-10 12:32 PM |
#244 |
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I'd pay more |
Radical Activist |
May-23-10 02:48 PM |
#252 |
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Wrong thread.. |
KoKo |
May-22-10 02:46 PM |
#159 |
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I've already paid a huge chunk of my income to social security |
northernlights |
May-22-10 03:10 PM |
#160 |
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You didn't "pay into" anything. No one did. |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 03:25 PM |
#164 |
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Um, I didn't write "paid into" anywhere...kindly don't put words in my keyboard |
northernlights |
May-22-10 03:39 PM |
#167 |
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you wrote: "I'd BETTER FUCKING GET BACK WHAT I PAID IN" |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 03:59 PM |
#172 |
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What I paid INTO THE SYSTEM |
northernlights |
May-22-10 05:27 PM |
#199 |
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Becuase its all about you personally and your story. |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 05:33 PM |
#204 |
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in fact, we paid for the benefits of others & over 1 trillion extra, which was funneled to the top |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 12:51 AM |
#232 |
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Given your posting history... |
liberation |
May-22-10 03:42 PM |
#169 |
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People who think that being progressive |
Radical Activist |
May-22-10 04:02 PM |
#174 |
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You are posting a lot of accusations about me. Please back them up. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 06:45 PM |
#213 |
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Overreaching accusations from me? Do you have examples? |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 06:43 PM |
#212 |
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I'm not going to win any friends here by what I, (as a Soc Sec recipient) say ..but |
activa8tr |
May-22-10 03:59 PM |
#171 |
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thanks for sharing your story nt |
flamingdem |
May-22-10 04:27 PM |
#183 |
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I am absolutely not. If Obama handles SS reforms like he did HCR, |
icee |
May-22-10 04:42 PM |
#188 |
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Well, I'm not sure how you arrived at that, but of course Obama had to deal with |
activa8tr |
May-22-10 04:55 PM |
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May-22-10 05:05 PM |
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Name removed |
May-22-10 06:47 PM |
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How about dealing with the REAL "problem"....Senseless, bankrupting wars? |
whathehell |
May-22-10 05:28 PM |
#201 |
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Yeah, I'm all for that, and so are most seniors who are veterans |
activa8tr |
May-22-10 06:53 PM |
#215 |
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social security is almost 3 trillion in the black. it's not broken. |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 01:04 AM |
#233 |
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You are very wrong. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 05:31 PM |
#202 |
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What am I "so very wrong" about? I'd love to learn something I don't |
activa8tr |
May-22-10 07:16 PM |
#217 |
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SS isn't a ponzi scheme. This is a right-wing meme. |
Hannah Bell |
May-23-10 12:43 AM |
#230 |
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Until we get corporate money out of politics, nothing will change n/t |
nichomachus |
May-22-10 04:23 PM |
#182 |
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Ironically enough, a Republican president had some wise words on this subject (among others) |
Sebastian Doyle |
May-22-10 04:36 PM |
#186 |
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True enough. But where do people posting here on this thread get the |
activa8tr |
May-22-10 04:43 PM |
#189 |
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It's been on the DLC's list for years. |
Sebastian Doyle |
May-22-10 05:09 PM |
#195 |
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Now _this_ is the loony left. Exhibit A. |
stevietheman |
May-22-10 05:19 PM |
#196 |
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wow--a real "deep thinker," aren't you? |
ima_sinnic |
May-22-10 05:41 PM |
#206 |
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He certainly is a man of his word. We know that, right?????????????? |
Peregrine Took |
May-22-10 06:06 PM |
#209 |
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You forgot the little sarcasm thingie, huh? nt |
laughingliberal |
May-22-10 06:32 PM |
#210 |
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First time I have been called the loony left. |
madfloridian |
May-22-10 11:35 PM |
#225 |
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Maybe we should have paid more attention to his reagan adoration fetish. |
Jakes Progress |
May-22-10 05:26 PM |
#198 |
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I've thought that for a while now. |
icee |
May-22-10 09:21 PM |
#221 |
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The comedic genius of Alan Greenspan |
Usrename |
May-22-10 09:09 PM |
#219 |
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DISASTER CAPITALISM |
Odin2005 |
May-22-10 09:12 PM |
#220 |
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Obama and Congressional Dems are already skating on the thin edge of not getting my vote |
MadHound |
May-23-10 07:03 AM |
#238 |
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If they do that... |
dajoki |
May-23-10 01:29 PM |
#248 |
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A look back at a Greider video, Feb. 2009. Looting Social Security. |
Jefferson23 |
May-23-10 04:21 PM |
#254 |
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Social Security funds/Medicare clearly are the target and the prize. |
stillwaiting |
May-23-10 05:34 PM |
#255 |
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Wow. Too late to rec. |
inna |
May-23-10 06:00 PM |
#256 |