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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:46 PM
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95. A few corrections
The Helms / Gantt race was in 1990, not 1992.

Helms had a "machine" but he rarely won in a landslide. He was always vulnerable.

Dean Smith consistently endorses Democrats and there are some whose victories were largely the result of Smith's support (Chapel Hill mayor Howard Lee, 4th District Congressman David Price).

But Dean is no Jordan, especially at the peak of Jordan's career. In 1990 Jordan was selling everything, and doing a damn good job of it. When did you ever see an ad featuring Dean Smith? He's not the most likable guy. He's got a big nose and he talks funny. Besides, less than half the state pulls for UNC. They pull for State of any of the other schools in NC. But Jordan was transcendent.

The 1990 race was decided by Get Out the Vote efforts and turn-out. Jordan's money and influence could have turned the tide. I don't think comparisons with John Kerry are fair since Gantt was a better campaigner. At his rallies he inspired people, just not quite enough people.

It had to be the shoes, or lack thereof:

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  - The writer is a douchebag...  trumad   Apr-08-10 05:59 AM   #1 
  - He Compares Him To Jordan Which Is Apt  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:13 AM   #4 
  - The Similarity WIth Jordan Is About His Gambling and Womanizing  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 06:22 AM   #6 
  - It's Not The Infidelity.  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:27 AM   #7 
  - Well Said  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 06:46 AM   #20 
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     - It's very hard for some people.  blueamy66   Apr-08-10 08:04 AM   #57 
        - Seems easy to me, too.  Kalyke   Apr-08-10 08:13 AM   #61 
           - Thank you.  blueamy66   Apr-08-10 09:13 AM   #63 
  - MJ  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 06:27 AM   #8 
     - Him donating $15,000....  sendero   Apr-08-10 06:30 AM   #9 
     - I was addressing two things  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 06:35 AM   #11 
     - I doubt that the retirement.  sendero   Apr-08-10 06:39 AM   #16 
        - I don't disagree with that  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 06:40 AM   #17 
        - The Author Did A Good Job Of Identifying The Greats  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:47 AM   #21 
           - and ...  wolfgangmo   Apr-08-10 09:50 AM   #68 
     - I Thought The Author's Thesis Was Unassailable  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:35 AM   #12 
        - I wasn't saying either was great man  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 06:36 AM   #13 
        - Having a foundation is a tax dodge. nt  Captain Hilts   Apr-08-10 07:37 AM   #45 
     - Well- There's No Way MJ Could Have Ignored Obama  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:32 AM   #10 
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     - The Suspension Was A Cover-Up  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 06:41 AM   #18 
     - Helms only got 52.5% of the vote in 1990  taterguy   Apr-08-10 06:50 AM   #22 
     - Ha  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:54 AM   #24 
     - Honestly, No  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 07:11 AM   #31 
        - I Think Bear Would Have Helped In Alabama.  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:17 AM   #35 
           - Call Me A Cynic...  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 07:31 AM   #42 
              - The Irony Is That They Loved Jordan But Still Voted For Helms  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:34 AM   #43 
              - Keep Hoping For A Teabagger Revolt...  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 07:48 AM   #52 
              - A few corrections  taterguy   Apr-08-10 03:46 PM   #95 
     - I'm aware of his gambling  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 06:51 AM   #23 
        - You Never Will...  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 07:06 AM   #29 
           - Well then  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 07:14 AM   #32 
              - Take It As You Will  KharmaTrain   Apr-08-10 07:24 AM   #40 
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  - Sorry, but the guy is one cheating, lying, narcissistic pig.  kstewart33   Apr-08-10 07:40 AM   #49 
  - The writer is absolutely correct.  Kalyke   Apr-08-10 07:57 AM   #55 
  - +1  wolfgangmo   Apr-08-10 10:03 AM   #69 
  - It's Not The Serial Infidelity. It's The Hypocrisy  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 10:52 AM   #77 
  - Freudian slip award.  wolfgangmo   Apr-08-10 09:46 AM   #66 
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  - LOL That's what I see too. "Wish Earl was still here  Solomon   Apr-08-10 06:58 AM   #25 
  - other than his family who gives a shit who tiger screwed....  madrchsod   Apr-08-10 06:12 AM   #3 
  - It's not the infidelity. It's the duplicity. He held himself out as this great family man.  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:17 AM   #5 
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  - Earl Woods Reminds Me Of Todd Marinovich's Dad  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 06:42 AM   #19 
  - I agree  The Old Creak   Apr-08-10 08:12 AM   #60 
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  - You dislike a man because of something his father said?  CBGLuthier   Apr-08-10 07:01 AM   #26 
  - I saw that too  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 07:05 AM   #27 
  - I Am Sure You Are A Good Person And Your Family Loves You  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:09 AM   #30 
     - If my father  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 07:22 AM   #38 
  - Well  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:05 AM   #28 
  - I have no opinion  H2O Man   Apr-08-10 07:18 AM   #36 
     - That Stuck In My Proverbial Craw  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:27 AM   #41 
     - It's just wrong.  H2O Man   Apr-08-10 07:39 AM   #47 
        - Now That You Are Outraged  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:41 AM   #50 
           - Mandela  H2O Man   Apr-08-10 07:46 AM   #51 
              - Ghandi did box.  wolfgangmo   Apr-08-10 10:09 AM   #71 
     - yes, it's a good reason to take umbrage at Earl Woods --  fishwax   Apr-08-10 10:36 AM   #73 
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  - Oh the DRAMA! This too is worse than the Sopranos, but par for the course for Jack Todd.  Gwendolyn   Apr-08-10 07:19 AM   #37 
  - Tiger Woods at male-only Augusta National  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:23 AM   #39 
  - I'd venture to say he made this his debut back there because there are no women.  Kalyke   Apr-08-10 08:09 AM   #58 
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  - We Want Our Celbrities To Be More Than Celebrities  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 07:40 AM   #48 
  - Waste of space  Brewman_Jax   Apr-08-10 07:49 AM   #53 
  - I agree n/t  JonLP24   Apr-08-10 07:53 AM   #54 
  - How is it BS?  wolfgangmo   Apr-08-10 10:12 AM   #72 
     - Not about Tiger?  Brewman_Jax   Apr-08-10 10:38 AM   #74 
        - Yeah- Why Doesn't He Condemn Augusta's Exclusion Of Women?  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 12:05 PM   #82 
           - Where are the other voices of condemnation?  Brewman_Jax   Apr-08-10 02:05 PM   #94 
  - I don't care how many people he slept with.  Dr.Phool   Apr-08-10 08:12 AM   #59 
  - He is an unfaithful husband, doesn't use condoms in sex with porn stars and escorts,  closeupready   Apr-08-10 09:16 AM   #64 
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  - Ali Isn't Celebrated For His Fidelity  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 11:15 AM   #80 
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        - Tiger Is 34  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 12:11 PM   #84 
           - I guess. Although I would  Guy Whitey Corngood   Apr-08-10 12:14 PM   #85 
  - Barry Bonds can hit a baseball when he's juiced up like a like a pickle  Renew Deal   Apr-08-10 09:49 AM   #67 
  - barry bonds can hit the ball FARTHER when he's juiced up like a pickle..  frylock   Apr-08-10 10:40 AM   #76 
  - Barry Bonds was a top 10 all-time player without the juice  Dreamer Tatum   Apr-08-10 11:09 AM   #79 
  - The writer starts by sliming all golfers and finishes by slandering a dead man.  Arkana   Apr-08-10 10:05 AM   #70 
  - And He No More Slanders All Golfers Than He Does Slander All Bicyclist, Basketball Players,  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 11:05 AM   #78 
  - A big-time hater who can get his opinion published. Big whoop.  CakeGrrl   Apr-08-10 12:11 PM   #83 
  - "Tiger has cheated. Bill Clinton cheated. John Edwards cheated and got a kid out of wedlock to boot"  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 12:44 PM   #87 
     - What's for YOU to forgive in ANY of these instances?  CakeGrrl   Apr-08-10 01:01 PM   #89 
        - He Doesn't Need My Forgiveness. He Bores Me. One Dimensional People Bore Me,  DemocratSinceBirth   Apr-08-10 01:11 PM   #91 
        - "All he owes me is an entertaining golf game. He does not hold sway over my moral compass."  WorseBeforeBetter   Apr-08-10 01:35 PM   #93 
  - As if this dead horse hasn't been beaten enough.  WorseBeforeBetter   Apr-08-10 12:41 PM   #86 
     - that is so irresponsible of you.  closeupready   Apr-08-10 12:47 PM   #88 
        - I'll sit here and say whatever I damn well please.  WorseBeforeBetter   Apr-08-10 01:29 PM   #92 

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