Reply #39: Your point

[DonCoquixote]

The problem with that idea is, the ball was already rolling, towards the idea of going back to business as usual, GOP elected in 2012, and the issue of health care reform being DEAD.

As far as bets go, well, Social Security and Medicare all have flaws, heck, even the Canadians love to complain about their Health Care system (as I hear down here in tourist central, Florida). That being said, NOBODY, and NOBODY, would entertain the idea of going back to the status quo before those programs came about. Even when W. tried that, it blew up in his lips like an exploding cigar, and that was well before Wall Street went south, before Enron even blew up.

Now, are the scum going to try to make the most of things, yes, but sadly, in a democracy, the name of the game is to get at least 51% of the people agree with you. Yes, Obama won the election, but we are not near the point where 51 percent of the country is on board with single payer. And yes, Obama can use his pulpit better, however, as big as that pulpit is, it is countered by media pulpits, and worse, church pulpits. I may want single payer, or at the very least, something like the French and Germans have, but I am not so naive to think that 30 years of GOP cultural domination can be wished away in four years. Yes, talk of revolution, but note that like any quick fix, revolutions have a nasty way of going 360 degrees. If we want real change we CAN believe in, we will need to work on the masses, and understand that those masses are so pumped full of GOP toxins that will NOT just be pooped out of their system just because of any one Election.