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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #158
163. So yippee your a veteran so what.???
That makes you an expert all of a sudden - I still know a hell of a lot more about helicopters than you do - and hey you're right they won't take you alive but they'll be just as happy taking you dead if you start shooting at people. Your problem is that you're thinking with your balls and not your brains.

YOU are NOT going to take down a helicopter and you certainly won't take out a tank.. They are going to stand back and let you shoot at them one time and then blow the crap out of you from 2 miles away.

Get real and hey dude THAT war is over...stop being so damned paranoid.

Doug D.

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  -Stopping Nuts With Guns - Myths and Reality ddeclue  Apr-18-07 08:05 PM   #0 
  - #4: Blame the victims  fishnfla   Apr-18-07 08:20 PM   #1 
  - I cover that myth and why it's a bad idea for everyone to "pack heat"  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 08:23 PM   #2 
  - That's the most sensible thing I have read yet on this topic  alarimer   Apr-18-07 08:31 PM   #3 
  - "Loners"  Xap   Apr-18-07 08:52 PM   #4 
  - No...I'm suggesting a common sense approach...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:09 PM   #9 
  - Timothy McVeigh, for one, would have easily passed your test. n/t  Xap   Apr-18-07 09:33 PM   #16 
     - No he wouldn't have...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:38 PM   #17 
  - There are loners and there are loners  Lydia Leftcoast   Apr-18-07 10:03 PM   #26 
     - Yeah, you're right...but it would be good to spend a few minutes  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 10:13 PM   #28 
  - About Amadou Diallo ...  Jim__   Apr-18-07 08:54 PM   #5 
  - My apologies about the alley...actually kind of makes Gladwell's point...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:29 PM   #14 
  - Enjoy your crusade. You ain't getting MY guns, bubba.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 08:57 PM   #6 
  - Karl:  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:14 PM   #11 
  - Well, I never said I was against realistic controls (good background checks.)  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 09:50 PM   #23 
     - Tired tired cliches....  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:58 PM   #25 
        - OMG, I hardly know where to start, Doug!  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 10:38 PM   #35 
        - 30% of the country used to be 50%... 70% drinks...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:05 PM   # 
           - You're funny.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 11:09 PM   #60 
              - You don't understand a hypothetical???  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:13 PM   #65 
        - ddclue, don't bother arguing with someone who uses terms like "gun grabbers."  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:00 PM   #54 
        - karl isn't a nut job..."gun grabbers" to the contrary...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:06 PM   #58 
           - Well, shit. Hey Doug, I apologize. This subject makes us all a little nuts I guess.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 11:20 PM   #72 
        - Bullshit and "feelgood"...  TnDem   Apr-18-07 11:32 PM   #87 
        - Dude, I live in the south and I understand and have shot guns...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:38 PM   #91 
        - You have lost your mind?....  TnDem   Apr-18-07 11:59 PM   #100 
           - NO - HAVE YOU????  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:13 AM   #106 
              - So I guess....  TnDem   Apr-19-07 12:18 AM   #110 
              - Well I GUESS THE HELL NOT...they don't know what they are talking about.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:33 AM   #116 
                 - OK then....  TnDem   Apr-19-07 01:07 AM   #145 
                 - Well except for Senator BILL NELSON of FLORIDA..  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:11 AM   #148 
                 - Ignore the Berkeley comments -- it's a private obsession with TnDem  jgraz   Apr-19-07 01:13 AM   #149 
                    - Yeah and I WAS a Tennessee Democrat myself...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:25 AM   #154 
                       - Damn, I love Tennessee  jgraz   Apr-19-07 01:29 AM   #157 
              - and don't forget: Gore and Kerry didn't actually lose  jgraz   Apr-19-07 12:40 AM   #120 
                 - Thanks for your support but I don't agree...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:42 AM   #123 
                 - Different debate for another time  jgraz   Apr-19-07 12:56 AM   #133 
                 - I've been through it all...where was the fraud in 2006?  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:00 AM   #140 
                    - Like I said, we should talk some other time  jgraz   Apr-19-07 01:05 AM   #144 
                 - Wake up!  Swamp Rat   Apr-19-07 12:57 AM   #135 
                    - Damn..that'll do it... I'll have a nightmare tonight now..  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:59 AM   #138 
                       - The nightmare is reality...  Swamp Rat   Apr-19-07 01:01 AM   #141 
                 - Exactly!!  Swamp Rat   Apr-19-07 12:58 AM   #137 
                    - (((Swamp)))  Gelliebeans   Apr-19-07 05:45 AM   #187 
                       - Gelliebeans!!  Swamp Rat   Apr-19-07 05:46 AM   #188 
        - Dude, I live in the south and I understand and have shot guns...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:38 PM   #92 
        - Sorry for the double posts... what's up with DU tonight..why so slow...n/t  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:40 PM   #93 
        - ahem...  orleans   Apr-19-07 02:55 AM   #175 
           - That's important too but I still want to talk to his friends, family, and coworkers  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 03:01 AM   #177 
           - there is no guarantee that the gun store owner's judgment would  orleans   Apr-19-07 03:15 AM   #179 
              - There IS no magic bullet - not even MY idea is a magic bullet.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 03:22 AM   #181 
           - Hospitilized  Thothmes   Apr-19-07 08:46 AM   #192 
              - ok...then maybe anyone being treated with mental problems  orleans   Apr-19-07 02:18 PM   #200 
        - Uhhhh.....  Dr_eldritch   Apr-19-07 02:53 AM   #174 
           - Hey it's been done in many a country over the decades...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 03:05 AM   #178 
  - God, Karl. You are so....frightened. And paranoid.  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 09:32 PM   #15 
  - You sound like a right wingnut. Nothing happened to me. Why?  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 09:39 PM   #18 
     - Except that you really WOULDN'T be effective - you just think you would.  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:41 PM   #20 
     - That's just silly. I'm a former cop and a VERY good shot.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 09:53 PM   #24 
     - It doesn't matter because that "perp" has the drop on you..  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 10:11 PM   #27 
        - I'll try to remember to reply tomorrow, I have an early flight and need some sleep.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 10:25 PM   #29 
        - Oh dear God... I hope this is a private flight and not on the airlines...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 10:30 PM   #30 
        - I'm DRIVING the airplane.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 10:39 PM   #36 
           - And still I don't think a gun in the cockpit is a good idea...stick to flying...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:07 PM   #59 
        - Pack a flashlight, a handheld aviation radio and a're more likely to need them n/t.  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 10:32 PM   #32 
           - Very true, but,  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 12:38 AM   #119 
              - Nope..I was an Eagle Scout... better to not have the gun because  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:58 AM   #136 
                 - You, too? Congrats!  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 01:39 AM   #162 
                    - It's not the pure gun accidents a la Cheney I'm talking about...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:50 AM   #166 
                       - Mistakes happen.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 02:28 AM   #170 
                          - I disagree that friend vs foe ID is easy or accurate.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 02:51 AM   #173 
                             - It really is not that hard for civilians.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 03:38 AM   #185 
        - Ouch. A voice of reason punctuates Karl-Wyatt-Earp's balloon of invincibility.  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 11:04 PM   #56 
        - I think that's a bit extreme to characterize him that way...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:10 PM   #61 
           - You don't trust him with a gun but you trust him with a plane?  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 11:13 PM   #64 
              - explain...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:16 PM   #67 
                 - OK. I see your point. But I still don't feel safe with gun-crazy guys flying around in planes.  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 11:20 PM   #74 
                 - Right idea, but not accurate in the details.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 12:52 AM   #128 
                    - No Joe I AM a pilot and an aerospace engineer to boot...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:08 AM   #146 
                       - Right on the money.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 01:50 AM   #165 
                          - No you are just wrong and don't know what you are talking about  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 02:04 AM   #168 
                             - Sounds like we are mostly in agreement and now just  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 02:34 AM   #171 
        - Doug is slowly beginning to understand the dynamics.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 12:33 AM   # 
        - Nicely put. What amazes me is that so many here would rather the potential victims  karlrschneider   Apr-19-07 12:40 AM   #121 
        - Come on karl..that's just so lame and insultingly not true...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:20 AM   # 
        - Come on karl..that's just so lame and insultingly not true...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:20 AM   #151 
        - Come on karl..that's just so lame and insultingly not true...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:20 AM   #152 
        - Guns were banned on Campus... How did Cho get one onto campus?  Dr_eldritch   Apr-19-07 02:45 AM   #172 
           - Well because how was that actually enforced other than the honor system?  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 03:25 AM   #182 
        - NO I DO understand the dynamics entirely. It is YOU who fail to understand  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:40 AM   #122 
           - I understand better than most.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 01:29 AM   #156 
           - No the human brain is usually a fuckup when it comes to split second decision making.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:45 AM   #164 
              - OK, you got me.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 02:01 AM   #167 
                 - I don't have the experience of a "gun" decision but:  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 02:15 AM   #169 
                    - Sounds like you are doing OK to me.  ManiacJoe   Apr-19-07 02:59 AM   #176 
                       - Yeah but most people DON'T get the chance to learn from their mistakes  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 03:16 AM   #180 
           - "you will never get the chance to shoot your gun"  Nabeshin   Apr-19-07 04:55 AM   #186 
        - Wait -- that's not how it would go at all!  jgraz   Apr-19-07 12:51 AM   #127 
           - Bwa hah hah...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:56 AM   #134 
              - BTW, fucking awesome OP  jgraz   Apr-19-07 01:00 AM   #139 
                 - Thanks..I've been at it a while...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:02 AM   #143 
     - And, ddclue, don't waste your time trying to talk to someone who resorts to the words  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:03 PM   #55 
        - BTW, Redstone? May I remind you...  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 11:17 PM   #68 
           - I'm sorry. The OP did such a great job that I could NOT just stand by and watch.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:24 PM   #79 
              - Yep. That's why I'm here too. I am not very reasonable most of the time, but he made it clear  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 11:29 PM   #85 
     - Oh.. and P.S. this "craven coward" has stopped a robbery UNARMED  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:48 PM   #22 
     - Uh...your reply proves my point. You are so terribly frightened. You are frightened by life.  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 10:56 PM   #47 
     - Ignored  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 10:58 PM   #52 
     - Your ignore list must be HUGE by now. Here's an idea....  Beausoir   Apr-18-07 11:26 PM   #82 
     - STOP!!  Madspirit   Apr-18-07 11:59 PM   #101 
        - Madspirit, listen to me, please.  Redstone   Apr-19-07 12:11 AM   #105 
        - I don't own a gun Redstone, my friend.  Madspirit   Apr-19-07 12:33 AM   #114 
           - Yes. Yes to all you said.  Redstone   Apr-19-07 12:43 AM   #124 
           - Fear is not a good way to live your life..  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:52 AM   #129 
              - ...yeah...but...  Madspirit   Apr-19-07 01:09 AM   #147 
                 - I DO live very much in the real world and I'm NOT after your gun..that's your delusion.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:23 AM   #153 
        - Thanks. There must have been a big DU sale on rose-colored glasses I missed out on.  karlrschneider   Apr-19-07 12:35 AM   #118 
        - You're welcome!  Madspirit   Apr-19-07 05:11 PM   #203 
        - We already have a well-armed citzenry which is too cowardly--  eridani   Apr-20-07 03:15 AM   #205 
     - Yeah Karl, we're the craven cowards  jgraz   Apr-19-07 01:02 AM   #142 
  - Living in farming areas,  mycritters2   Apr-18-07 10:56 PM   #49 
  - All of this is meaningless  EstimatedProphet   Apr-18-07 09:05 PM   #7 
  - He has experience being HUMAN doesn't he?  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:22 PM   #12 
  - No, I disagree  EstimatedProphet   Apr-19-07 07:09 AM   #191 
  - Observation  Thothmes   Apr-19-07 08:53 AM   #193 
     - Are you sure on that?  EstimatedProphet   Apr-19-07 11:06 AM   #198 
  - Delete, server blunder  EstimatedProphet   Apr-18-07 09:05 PM   #8 
  - Guns weren't the problem here. That you can use term "nuts"  sfexpat2000   Apr-18-07 09:10 PM   #10 
  - No NUTS PLUS GUNS was the problem.  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:26 PM   #13 
  - Agreed. Thank you! eom.  Artiechoke   Apr-18-07 10:54 PM   #45 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-07 09:39 PM   #19 
  - Ahh the ad-hominem attack when you have nothing real to contribute...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 09:42 PM   #21 
  - About those myths...  beevul   Apr-18-07 10:31 PM   #31 
  - UH..NOT SO MUCH...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 10:56 PM   #48 
  - UH..NOT SO MUCH...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 10:56 PM   #50 
  - So...  beevul   Apr-18-07 11:45 PM   #98 
     - I DID debate in good didn't...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:15 AM   #108 
        - Saying you did, and I didn't doesnt make it so. N/T  beevul   Apr-19-07 12:20 AM   #111 
           - I DID justify everyone of my points using elementary logic.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:26 AM   #113 
              - You did NOTHING of the sort.  beevul   Apr-19-07 12:33 AM   #115 
                 - I did SO and please DO stop wasting our time...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:53 AM   #130 
  - "Mikael Gross and Tracy Bridges"  jgraz   Apr-19-07 01:27 AM   #155 
     - Yeah, Ignore Joel Myrick.  beevul   Apr-19-07 03:31 AM   #184 
        - In other words: Please let me hang onto the one fantasy that lets me keep my guns  jgraz   Apr-19-07 10:28 AM   #197 
  - Fuck if I AM  symbolman   Apr-18-07 10:35 PM   #33 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Apr-18-07 10:42 PM   #37 
  - Well call me a shitbag then  proud2Blib   Apr-18-07 10:49 PM   #41 
  - Ask and you shall receive.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 10:52 PM   #44 
     - And what, specifically, is wrong with her being a female from Kansas? Care to elaborate?  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:12 PM   #63 
     - Nothing "wrong" with either. Not at all. You aren't responsible for the idiotic policies  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 11:23 PM   #78 
        - And what difference does that make? Good God, to think you actually fly airplanes with  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:26 PM   #83 
           - Check your DUmail before you get into serious trouble.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 11:28 PM   #84 
              - I'm no stranger to trouble. But see my last reply first.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:43 PM   #97 
     - Actually I live in a big city  proud2Blib   Apr-19-07 09:15 AM   #195 
  - I was in Quang Tri City and An Loc in April and May of 1972. Does that qualify me  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:10 PM   #62 
  - And you're a COMMERCIAL AIRLINE PILOT? Christ, I wish the FAA could see that post; you are clearly  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:17 PM   #69 
  - Be my guest. I fly private jets for corporations. Mostly GOP-owned ones.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 11:25 PM   #81 
     - Well, that's fine. As long as you're not flying unsuspecting civilians around, be my guest.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:31 PM   #86 
     - Bully for you. I take their money, they get a great ride.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 11:34 PM   #88 
        - Translation = go postal, go nuts..lose it..etc.  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:41 PM   #94 
        - Uh, it means the same as "lose your grip." You got a lot of anger bottled up, right there.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:42 PM   #95 
     - Dude...I would never give out that kind of personal info...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:35 PM   #90 
        - Not necessary, since he doesn't fly the general public in his planes.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:49 PM   #99 
  - Oh grow up karl...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:20 PM   # 
  - Oh grow up karl...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:20 PM   # 
  - I'll admit, I do get angry sometimes. But I don't think I've ever seen anyone at DU as angry as you.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:35 PM   #89 
  - Good luck with that when they bring an attack helicopter and a tank...  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:18 PM   #70 
     - I know plenty of Nam guys who know better than that  symbolman   Apr-19-07 01:32 AM   #158 
     - So yippee your a veteran so what.???  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:43 AM   #163 
        - You DO do you?  symbolman   Apr-19-07 05:47 AM   #189 
     - To be fair we have a lot of both of those in Iraq  spoony   Apr-19-07 03:56 PM   #202 
  - oh wow. Lots of luck to you.  ComerPerro   Apr-18-07 10:38 PM   #34 
  - Regulating guns does not equate to a violation of the 2nd Amendment.  merh   Apr-18-07 10:42 PM   #38 
  - Great. I nominated it for the "stupidest fucking post ever" gallery.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 10:45 PM   #39 
     - I don't have that feature  merh   Apr-18-07 10:48 PM   #40 
     - I just love the power of it. My gun gives me nonstop orgasms. I caress it with loving tenderness.  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 10:50 PM   #42 
     - Hey, you are the one that took it to a personal level  merh   Apr-18-07 11:00 PM   #53 
     - I'll be forwarding that post to the FAA as well. You are a danger to the public.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:20 PM   #73 
        - What the hell are you doing?  symbolman   Apr-19-07 06:04 AM   #190 
     - . . .  proud2Blib   Apr-18-07 10:51 PM   #43 
     - self delete  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:21 PM   #75 
  - Well, you've successfully bundled together a bunch of oft-repeated straw-men in one post.  piedmont   Apr-18-07 10:56 PM   #46 
  - No I didn't say that..  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:22 PM   #76 
  - Excellent NRA bundle, right there.  Redstone   Apr-19-07 12:13 AM   #107 
     - Hitler chewed gum. Do you chew gum?  piedmont   Apr-19-07 12:51 AM   #126 
        - Actually, I don't. Next question?  Redstone   Apr-19-07 12:53 AM   #132 
           - Ha. Alright then. Good night.  piedmont   Apr-19-07 01:13 AM   #150 
  - I'm not easily impressed, but I'm fucking impressed right now. Yes, indeed.  Redstone   Apr-18-07 10:57 PM   #51 
  - masterfully discredited? You bucking for Tony Snow's job?  karlrschneider   Apr-18-07 11:05 PM   #57 
     - Haven't answered ONE of my replies except with this bullshit, have you?  Redstone   Apr-18-07 11:22 PM   #77 
  - Give me an example where a gun killed someone. nt  doc03   Apr-18-07 11:13 PM   #66 
  - Only if you will give me one example where someone was killed from  ddeclue   Apr-18-07 11:25 PM   #80 
  - Well if I hit you with a rock  doc03   Apr-19-07 12:02 AM   #102 
     - Well there isn't an epidemic of "rock" murders now IS THERE?  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:17 AM   #109 
  - A friend of mine from work killed himself with a gun.  doc03   Apr-18-07 11:42 PM   #96 
     - I happen to know of FOUR separate gun deaths of people I knew from my days in Atlanta in 80's/90's  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:06 AM   #104 
        - A gun didn't kill any of those people, people did.  doc03   Apr-19-07 05:39 PM   #204 
  - Great post! I'm printing this out and keeping it.  AZBlue   Apr-18-07 11:20 PM   #71 
  - Wackiness Ensues  Madspirit   Apr-19-07 12:04 AM   #103 
  - What a bunch of nonsense  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 12:22 AM   #112 
     - Arrogant, condescending pedant  Madspirit   Apr-19-07 12:43 AM   #125 
     - Quite a lot thank you and you can stop talking down to me while you're at it.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:32 AM   #159 
     - It's called asymetrical warfare, and the Iraqis are pantsing us with it.  piedmont   Apr-19-07 12:53 AM   #131 
        - Only because George Bush is an idiot...n/t  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:35 AM   #160 
  - This kid purchased a gun legally. Mental health records are not checked, and that  mzmolly   Apr-19-07 12:34 AM   #117 
  - And even THAT is not a sufficient test.  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 01:38 AM   #161 
     - That's a good point.  mzmolly   Apr-19-07 03:44 PM   #201 
  - MUST SLEEP NOW.. GOOD NIGHT ALL... AN INTERESTING DEBATE...  ddeclue   Apr-19-07 03:28 AM   #183 
  - Myth #4 is so stupid. You debunked it well. nt  raccoon   Apr-19-07 09:13 AM   #194 
  - Nice idea  Prophet 451   Apr-19-07 10:22 AM   #196 
  - That was brilliantly put. Thank you.  IronLionZion   Apr-19-07 12:14 PM   #199 

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