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demodonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-12-09 01:34 AM
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42. As a member of Actors' Equity I TAKE OFFENSE AT THIS POST.
Edited on Mon Oct-12-09 01:37 AM by demodonkey

The vast majority of card-carrying members of the actors' unions make only a few thousand dollars per year -- if that -- in the business.

Being an actor is not something that "anyone" can do. Some people have talent, but talent has to be developed and trained. Even the so-called overnight successes usually have years, maybe decades, of hard work, training, lessons, bit parts, making the rounds, and paying their dues to work up through the ranks.

Sure there are some personalities that suddenly appear and get millions, but for every one of them there are literally hundreds of hard-working actors plugging away in small roles, background work, and survival jobs.

No one is asking you to feel sorry, but you might at least feel some respect.

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     - Ted Kennedy was very proud of his role in getting this passed  grantcart   Oct-12-09 02:24 PM   #75 
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  - I would argue that politicians have your life in their hands..  Fumesucker   Oct-12-09 06:04 AM   #46 
  - As a member of Actors' Equity I TAKE OFFENSE AT THIS POST.  demodonkey   Oct-12-09 01:34 AM   #42 
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        - With a bit of luck, you can enjoy pilots like this  mn9driver   Oct-12-09 08:59 PM   #91 
  - those two  amborin   Oct-11-09 11:57 PM   #35 
  - You're an idiot  Hawkowl   Oct-12-09 11:34 AM   #57 
  - Little known fact that hasn't been stated yet in the MSM....  Aviation Pro   Oct-12-09 12:11 PM   #66 
  - yes, exactly  amborin   Oct-13-09 11:14 PM   #100 
  - I'm not sure any amount of training is going to prevent something like that  MajorChode   Oct-13-09 11:37 PM   #104 
  - guess you haven't read much  amborin   Oct-13-09 11:13 PM   #99 
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     - your  amborin   Oct-13-09 11:16 PM   #101 
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  - self-delete, dupe  valerief   Oct-12-09 04:39 PM   #86 
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  - Wilkes-Barre, PA -- unbelievable story  October   Oct-12-09 04:19 PM   #84 
  - "judges getting kickbacks from the private prison industry...  redqueen   Oct-12-09 11:31 AM   #56 
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  - Your figures are too low by half....  Aviation Pro   Oct-12-09 03:17 PM   #77 
     - As I said, depends on where and what equipment.  ddeclue   Oct-12-09 03:35 PM   #81 
        - PM inbound.  Aviation Pro   Oct-12-09 03:45 PM   #83 
           - PM is cleared for final runway 18.  ddeclue   Oct-13-09 08:22 PM   #98 
  - K&R. I found the pilot info shocking too, and avoided in TV interviews.  Overseas   Oct-12-09 11:45 AM   #59 
  - For those who would like to see what pilots earn....  Aviation Pro   Oct-12-09 11:58 AM   #60 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Oct-12-09 12:07 PM   #64 
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  - I Am In The Same Boat  Fastcars   Oct-12-09 01:20 PM   #73 
  - Blame  kenfrequed   Oct-12-09 03:29 PM   #80 
  - Nope, fares are dropping because of the fuel market....  Aviation Pro   Oct-12-09 03:45 PM   #82 
     - Err..  kenfrequed   Oct-12-09 04:56 PM   #88 
        - They are also reducing capacity by 6%.....  Aviation Pro   Oct-12-09 06:37 PM   #90 
  - Before you book a vacation flight, phone the airline and ask what  valerief   Oct-12-09 04:40 PM   #87 
  - The "recovery" is well under way, I tells ya.  Greyhound   Oct-12-09 09:14 PM   #93 
  - I'm stunned!  Liberal_in_LA   Oct-12-09 10:03 PM   #95 
  - which airlines?  emncaity   Oct-13-09 08:08 PM   #96 
     - test  emncaity   Oct-13-09 08:09 PM   #97 

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