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Sun Oct-04-09 11:43 PM
Response to Reply #67 |
| 69. Obama has a choice between being FDR and being Hoover. |
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I hope he will chose the former.
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| -Is the party about to finally fracture? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:20 PM |
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Not a chance. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 10:22 PM |
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Seriously |
rockymountaindem |
Oct-04-09 10:27 PM |
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You consume politics and you know how saussage is made |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:30 PM |
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But the people here should know better |
rockymountaindem |
Oct-04-09 10:45 PM |
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And we are still the minority, that is the point |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:48 PM |
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Folks don't have "several election cycles"... |
sendero |
Oct-05-09 06:08 AM |
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Yes. The GOP is falling apart, not the Democratic party. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 10:30 PM |
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The Republican party as already fractured. |
harmonicon |
Oct-04-09 11:10 PM |
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It's not about to fracture |
Pab Sungenis |
Oct-04-09 10:50 PM |
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And it's not fracturing now. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 10:57 PM |
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You aren't looking at the local level. |
Pab Sungenis |
Oct-04-09 11:07 PM |
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The level of frustration with the innaction at my local level |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:10 PM |
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Either support your statement with specificity or stop it. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 11:17 PM |
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Well, my local area is one perfect example. |
Pab Sungenis |
Oct-04-09 11:24 PM |
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Looks like we have a party civil war on our hands, folks! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:27 PM |
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1820s all over again |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:32 PM |
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That's ridiculous. It's nothing like the 1820s. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 11:34 PM |
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One major party dying, the other about to split. Yep, sounds like the 1820s. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:38 PM |
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That's ridiculous, and wholly without basis. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 11:43 PM |
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I know my American history just fine, thank you very much. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:46 PM |
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But you do not know the RIGHT version of US History you see |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:47 PM |
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Yep, the version where nothing rhymes and nothing can be learned. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:51 PM |
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No, you don't. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 11:52 PM |
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Yes, I do, And So? That doesn't mean I can't have an interest in it. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:57 PM |
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The 3rd American Party System, RIP. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:35 PM |
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LOL |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:37 PM |
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I said "in some places." |
Pab Sungenis |
Oct-05-09 09:22 AM |
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You've described Democrats being Democrats. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 11:33 PM |
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there is deep division |
mitchtv |
Oct-04-09 10:25 PM |
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Well I know what I told my reps |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:26 PM |
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I've already made that vow. I'll fuckin stay home. n/t |
Fire1 |
Oct-05-09 01:04 PM |
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what could have been if FDR lived...? |
dysfunctional press |
Oct-04-09 10:27 PM |
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A social Democracy |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:28 PM |
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i wasn't actually asking that question... |
dysfunctional press |
Oct-04-09 10:32 PM |
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And I gave you the answer |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:33 PM |
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i didn't ask that either. |
dysfunctional press |
Oct-04-09 10:48 PM |
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Maybe. Hopefully the hedge fund liberals will ditch and finally become republicans. nt |
anonymous171 |
Oct-04-09 10:28 PM |
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If the GOP collapses that may happen |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:31 PM |
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let THEM form the third party. |
dysfunctional press |
Oct-04-09 10:31 PM |
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2010 will be intersting |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:32 PM |
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the repug base never stays home. |
dysfunctional press |
Oct-04-09 10:33 PM |
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The Blue Dogs are going to be thrown out in 2010 |
AllentownJake |
Oct-04-09 10:38 PM |
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The Party Is Utterly Broken - Something Has To Give |
MannyGoldstein |
Oct-04-09 10:32 PM |
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And that is the frustration I hear locally |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:34 PM |
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One can hope |
BrklynLiberal |
Oct-04-09 10:33 PM |
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Something bigger is going on than just the typical partisan politics |
AllentownJake |
Oct-04-09 10:35 PM |
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Something bigger is going on, and we can disagree as to what is the |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:38 PM |
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The Tea Baggers |
AllentownJake |
Oct-04-09 10:42 PM |
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Circa 1932 that is when the KKK started to bleed members |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:50 PM |
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If you could take away the fact that the new Michael Moore movie |
AllentownJake |
Oct-04-09 10:58 PM |
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I know |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:00 PM |
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Similiarly, a majority of people support a public option, but don't support Obama's public option |
anonymous171 |
Oct-04-09 11:00 PM |
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Exactly, that is what is so maddening about the whole thing! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:11 PM |
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In Reality |
AllentownJake |
Oct-04-09 11:12 PM |
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I agree. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:16 PM |
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I am hearing the same thing |
conscious evolution |
Oct-05-09 06:24 AM |
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Just like in the 1830s... |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 10:59 PM |
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Cycles of history |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:02 PM |
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History doesn't repeat, but it rhymes. So sayeth Twain. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:04 PM |
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Both party's are fractured |
DJ13 |
Oct-04-09 10:39 PM |
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And we have been here before as a country |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:52 PM |
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The GOP will die and the Democratic Party will split. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 10:41 PM |
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Points for history knowledge |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 10:52 PM |
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Thank you! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:03 PM |
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Yep, he was a moron |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:06 PM |
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Yep. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:15 PM |
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Don't you love living the chinese curse? |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:18 PM |
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Not really, LOL! |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:23 PM |
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No, despite the ardent wishes of "party civil war Im series!!!" squawkers. |
BlooInBloo |
Oct-04-09 10:48 PM |
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LOL! Anyone with any sense is already gone. |
donco6 |
Oct-04-09 11:01 PM |
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Nope. That is a Naderite pipe dream that consistently fails to happen. |
BzaDem |
Oct-04-09 11:18 PM |
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In spite of your pipe dreams that was the United States Supreme Court |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:22 PM |
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Who cares? Gore was not President. He would have been president if Naderites were rational. |
BzaDem |
Oct-05-09 12:05 AM |
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You are holding the wrong people accountable |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-05-09 12:09 AM |
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The data supports my point of view. No data supports your point of view. |
BzaDem |
Oct-05-09 05:32 AM |
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The only reality the statistics support is that it was a fuck-up on everybody's part. |
Selatius |
Oct-05-09 06:03 AM |
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Of course I blame Katherine Harris/Jeb Bush/etc. |
BzaDem |
Oct-05-09 06:26 AM |
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I think we differ on the definition of "freedom of choice." |
Selatius |
Oct-05-09 06:57 AM |
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So the Supreme Court, Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush had NUTHING |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-05-09 07:09 PM |
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Nader had no effect on the 2000 election |
conscious evolution |
Oct-05-09 06:34 AM |
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Naderite pipe dream, indeed. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 11:29 PM |
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The GOP is finished as a national political force. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:49 PM |
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No, the GOP is not finished. It's struggling. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-04-09 11:57 PM |
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Unfortunately, that is not true nor will it ever be true. We will always live in a two-party state. |
BzaDem |
Oct-05-09 12:06 AM |
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A new party will form by the splitting of the Democratic Party. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-05-09 12:14 AM |
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No, it won't. The Democratic party is not splitting. |
TexasObserver |
Oct-05-09 01:35 AM |
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In the long-term, it's a serious possibility. In America's 200+ year history, there has been changes |
Selatius |
Oct-05-09 07:09 AM |
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Oh dear, you are in for a rude awakening. |
cali |
Oct-05-09 03:42 AM |
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Not a chance, and we're foolish if we expect that to happen. |
Forkboy |
Oct-05-09 02:11 PM |
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Finally! |
kctim |
Oct-05-09 12:44 PM |
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Healthcare will be the litmus test. |
rucky |
Oct-04-09 11:29 PM |
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Agreed, that is the heart of the issue |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:31 PM |
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People are aligning at opposite sides of the "Big Tent" and are screaming at each other. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:40 PM |
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Look at this thread.... |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-04-09 11:41 PM |
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Obama has a choice between being FDR and being Hoover. |
Odin2005 |
Oct-04-09 11:43 PM |
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Thank you Patrick Caddell |
bluestateguy |
Oct-04-09 11:45 PM |
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No. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Oct-04-09 11:50 PM |
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no. |
unpossibles |
Oct-05-09 12:48 AM |
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The usual suspects who like bankster bailouts, you mean? |
Hannah Bell |
Oct-05-09 12:49 AM |
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Brilliant distinction k*r |
autorank |
Oct-05-09 01:21 AM |
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Like the Republicans, the Democrats seem to be seeking how little they can give us and remain in... |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-05-09 04:41 AM |
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You are assuming that Democratic politicans worry at all about the base not voting for them. |
BzaDem |
Oct-05-09 05:41 AM |
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I agree that working inside our system (primary challenges) is a way to do things |
Ozymanithrax |
Oct-05-09 12:52 PM |
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It's not a united party. Some will say it is. |
mmonk |
Oct-05-09 05:57 AM |
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No. |
quaker bill |
Oct-05-09 06:38 AM |
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People I know have just about had it with the spineless Democrats. |
Vinca |
Oct-05-09 07:08 AM |
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I don't think it's about "defending the usual suspects" |
ecstatic |
Oct-05-09 07:16 AM |
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Them Pubs actually want us to split...divided we fall shit...they work for it...invest $$ to see us |
opihimoimoi |
Oct-05-09 09:30 AM |
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Perhaps I am being an idealist |
Robyn66 |
Oct-05-09 09:34 AM |
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Oh, as a practical matter the Dem Party is no-less able to become as fractured... |
bridgit |
Oct-05-09 09:55 AM |
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This informative dispute is why the UNREC feature is great. |
philly_bob |
Oct-05-09 12:16 PM |
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Well I for one have left the Democratic Party for good. |
alarimer |
Oct-05-09 12:19 PM |
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The party is already fractured |
kctim |
Oct-05-09 01:09 PM |
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I can't speak for anyone else, |
bvar22 |
Oct-05-09 02:02 PM |
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And that is the feeling at the street level I am starting to hear |
nadinbrzezinski |
Oct-05-09 07:07 PM |
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K&R....Back UP to +1 |
bvar22 |
Oct-05-09 02:05 PM |
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about to? |
Individualist |
Oct-05-09 02:34 PM |
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Bingo! (NT) |
Tesha |
Oct-06-09 06:56 AM |
#118 |
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