Reply #77: There is no actual proof that these two men are in anyway the same person, as far as I see.

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All of these articles are generated from the bare word of someone who claims to be a former member, a Scott Solomon, who created this story on Google groups:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.socialism.trotsky/browse_thread/thread/4c525cb9cc8d4ee2/55127fd0b4d14c50?hl=en#55127fd0b4d14c50

One has to sign in with a Google account to view the post in the Group. I will C/P here for the benefit of those who don't wish to create an account right now.



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From: Scott Solomon <[email protected]>
Date: 22 Apr 2007 21:17:18 -0700
Local: Sun, Apr 22 2007 9:17 pm
Subject: David W. Green ("North") . . . CEO/Cult Leader for "Revolution"
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EXHIBIT 1

http://www.grpinc.com/grandriver-people.html

EXHIBIT 2

http://www.irisolutions.com/pressroom/best-places/2003_Crains.BPTW.pdf

(see page 2)

EXHIBIT 3

http://www.weandrews.com/wwwAndrews/Docs/RRD_piworld_1.pdf

(see page 9 of 14)

Some years ago, the communist political cult to which I used to be a
member
for one year (then known as the Workers League, now known as the
Socialist
Equality Party) made an interesting "turn" in its political line.
According to SEPtic,
the unions were no longer organizations of the working class.

I found this "turn" to be quite startling. Upon further thought,
however, it sorta
made sense. David W. Green ("North"), the cult leader of SEPtic,
having run
the cult since the mid 1970s, had been a complete ineffectual. He and
his cult
never organized any workers, ever gained any influence in the labor
movement,
never accomplished anything. So, in a strange way, it made quite a
bit of sense
that "North" was now writing off the unions altogether.

Still, I wondered, how was it that "North" managed to keep control
over a dedicated
cluster in the top leadership.

Today, playing around on the web, I found a possible answer. It seems
that David
W. Green is CEO of the 241st largest printing company in the USA.
EXHIBIT 1
is a link to the company's site. EXHIBIT 3 show that in 2005 the
company generated
$21mm in sales. EXHIBIT 2 has pictures of "David North" and his wife
in Crain's,
touting them as some of the best employers in the city.

The "puzzle" now makes sense.

Question: why does the North cult solicit members for donations when
they run
a profitable enterprise that could conceivably fund the SEPtic web
page activities?
Is there any sort of democracy in SEPtic? Were a faction to take over
the cult,
what would be the impact of the North crew vis-a-vis the company
activities?

It's interesting that CEO North now tells workers that unions are no
longer organizations
of the working class. This same "line" is probably echoed by CEOs at
all unorganized
companies.


He posts again at the website cited:
http://www.soviet-empire.com/ussr/viewtopic.php?t=41918


scott_p_solomon
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PostPosted: Fri 04 May 2007, 12:14
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.poli ... d0b4d14c50

This is the original post that identified North as a CEO. EXHIBIT 2 is a link to a Crain's article that has a picture
of North/Green and his wife.

Note: SEPtic has not denied this. They just reply that
"Engels was also a capitalist" blah, blah, blah. Which
of course is not the point. The point is how democratically
can a political organization be run when the cult leader
is also running the company that generates all the money.

It's an OBVIOUS conflict of interest, in the same way it
would be a conflict of interest to have a guy working at
Goldman Sachs who also has his own Wall Street recruiting
firm.


Sadly, his "exhibit" links seem broken. edit: the third link works. It's a printing catalogue and nothing else.