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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:34 PM
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7. Read the founders on that
they will tell you that this is a REPRESENTATIVE form of government Granted, there have been some major changes

Women vote and Senators are elected not appointed, oh and blacks have civil rights but it is still a representative system, that also requires an educated population that is well informed on the issues of the age. They did not speak of leaders, in fact, they abhorred them, and they abhorred kings,

Perhaps we outgrew the logical limits of a representative system... but we still live in one. And it is our duty, the citizen, to hold them accountable...

Now if you are fine in electing a leader, then you have abdicated a good percentage of your responsibilities.
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  -Shhh, here is a secret.... We ELECT REPRESENTATIVES nadinbrzezinski  Sep-03-09 11:16 PM   #0 
  - They are representatives.  arcadian   Sep-03-09 11:19 PM   #1 
  - So true  GreenPartyVoter   Sep-04-09 01:22 PM   #34 
  - And now that everyone has been educated,  Tangerine LaBamba   Sep-03-09 11:22 PM   #2 
  - Yes, and we expect them to change their "promises" when they realize  question everything   Sep-03-09 11:22 PM   #3 
  - They are also supposed to listen to their base  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 11:25 PM   #4 
  - I love your say what needs to be said in a way that makes complete sense without  AuntPatsy   Sep-03-09 11:36 PM   #8 
  - I get it, and yes it is late  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 11:37 PM   #10 
  - And who is their base?  question everything   Sep-04-09 11:44 AM   #32 
  - If you are talking economy and thinking changing the health care initiative,  JDPriestly   Sep-04-09 06:46 AM   #23 
  - Leadership has to be part of it. Otherwise they just perpetuate our fears, ignorance and prejudice.  sharesunited   Sep-03-09 11:30 PM   #5 
  - Read the founders on that  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 11:34 PM   #7 
     - excellent response....  AuntPatsy   Sep-03-09 11:41 PM   #12 
        - Actually not a good response at all, Aunt Patsy.  JDPriestly   Sep-04-09 07:08 AM   #24 
  - But, is that the only consquence they get, that we vote them out next time?  WatchWhatISay   Sep-03-09 11:32 PM   #6 
  - Yes, your ultimate tool is to vote them out  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 11:36 PM   #9 
  - We elect neither, we elect *on balance*: used car salesmen huckstering for the best deal...  bridgit   Sep-03-09 11:40 PM   #11 
  - I don't tnink you understand the op at all..  AuntPatsy   Sep-03-09 11:43 PM   #15 
     - disagreed  bridgit   Sep-04-09 12:00 AM   #21 
  - They are (allegedly) public servants. Some seem to believe that it is our duty to serve them.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Sep-03-09 11:42 PM   #13 
  - Exactly, but they have forgotten that  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 11:49 PM   #17 
  - Actually Diebold, ES&S, Sequoia, etc elect our representatives - but I agree with your post  slay   Sep-03-09 11:42 PM   #14 
  - We need to be willing to fight for it  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 11:52 PM   #19 
  - ES&S just bought Diebold YESTERDAY, so they pretty much OWN our elections nationwide.  demodonkey   Sep-04-09 07:32 AM   #25 
     - OMG - I did not know that - how horrible that we contract out who counts our votes in this country  slay   Sep-04-09 09:13 AM   #28 
  - Bravissimo.  LooseWilly   Sep-03-09 11:46 PM   #16 
  - No flame.. What if they do not do what they said they would? nt  wroberts189   Sep-03-09 11:51 PM   #18 
  - Vote them out, that is what they most fear  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-03-09 11:54 PM   #20 
  - We cast votes for people who call themselves our representatives.  JDPriestly   Sep-04-09 06:42 AM   #22 
  - That is when we need to get the money out of policits  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-04-09 10:54 AM   #29 
     - If the Supremes make that decision, we need to amend the Constitution  JDPriestly   Sep-04-09 01:21 PM   #33 
  - True.  Life Long Dem   Sep-04-09 07:44 AM   #26 
  - But that is the point, I DID NOT ELECT leaders  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-04-09 10:55 AM   #30 
     - No kidding.  Life Long Dem   Sep-05-09 02:41 PM   #35 
  - That's how it is supposed to work. But it doesn't because of  mmonk   Sep-04-09 07:52 AM   #27 
     - And I tell to those people as much as it pains me  nadinbrzezinski   Sep-04-09 10:59 AM   #31 

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