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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 12:01 AM
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156. No offense, but look at how much damage "one man with a gun"
has done. The guy in the gym. The guy in the holocaust museum. The guy in the Knoxville church. The kid in the Carolina college. Etc., etc.

I'm not anti-gun, I own one myself. My ex-girlfriend had a carry permit. But in certain situations "one man with a gun" needs to be watched closely. Especially in situations where death threats have already been made.
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  -If one guy with a gun has put you into this much of a panic, you scare too easily. SidneyCarton  Aug-12-09 01:19 PM   #0 
  - Well put. Pleased to be the first to Recommend this post.  ThomWV   Aug-12-09 01:20 PM   #1 
  - Excellent post.  Codeine   Aug-12-09 01:22 PM   #2 
  - Very well said and reasoned. K&R  Mira   Aug-12-09 01:25 PM   #3 
  - Yay- great post, I agree  zippy890   Aug-12-09 01:30 PM   #4 
  - No one is going to take away your gun. OK. But don't tell us to not fear for Pres Obama's life.  rhett o rick   Aug-12-09 01:30 PM   #5 
  - First off, I don't own a gun.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:35 PM   #9 
     - I appologize for the shot about the gun. I disagree with your post because many of us are scared  rhett o rick   Aug-13-09 09:34 AM   #128 
  - That states it as well as anyone could  tularetom   Aug-12-09 01:33 PM   #6 
  - The Secret Service is overburdened enough. They shouldn't have to be watching  pnwmom   Aug-12-09 01:35 PM   #7 
  - Agreed. n/t  SusanaMontana41   Aug-12-09 05:50 PM   #95 
  - Fear him? His picture should be everywhere.  napoleon_in_rags   Aug-12-09 01:35 PM   #8 
  - Tell that to George Sodini's victims  ecstatic   Aug-12-09 01:37 PM   #10 
  - George Sodini concealed his weapons in a gym bag....  Statistical   Aug-12-09 01:39 PM   #13 
  - At this moment the safest people in our nation sit in Super Max Federal Prisons.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:41 PM   #15 
  - +1 when was the last time someone open carried a weapon in clear view for a good couple hours...  Statistical   Aug-12-09 01:38 PM   #11 
  - You Totally Ignore The Real Motivation Of That Guy In NH.  Paladin   Aug-12-09 01:51 PM   #27 
     - Or his real motivation was to make the Democrats go insane about guns.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 01:55 PM   #33 
     - "Sunk in 2010"?  Codeine   Aug-12-09 02:10 PM   #54 
     - A reasonable point, but...  anigbrowl   Aug-12-09 02:42 PM   #73 
        - I totally agree with you. nt  Codeine   Aug-12-09 02:44 PM   #74 
     - +1  anigbrowl   Aug-12-09 02:27 PM   #63 
     - Bingo. +1. NT  Recursion   Aug-12-09 02:41 PM   #72 
     - No, what republicans want is the president gone...and if you don't believe  AuntPatsy   Aug-13-09 09:39 PM   #147 
     - So, one chooses to be intimidated or not.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:00 PM   #40 
     - Hell has frozen over  Missy Vixen   Aug-12-09 03:04 PM   #78 
     - Does Capitalizing Every Word In Your Subject Make You Cool? n/t  X_Digger   Aug-12-09 05:19 PM   #91 
     - Bull. He was exercising his 1st & 2nd Amendment rights.  madeline_con   Aug-12-09 09:37 PM   #103 
  - I would say that yours is faulty thinking.  Joe Fields   Aug-12-09 01:39 PM   #12 
  - How near to the President was Mr. Kostric, really?  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:43 PM   #18 
  - You are taking this issue literally, and there are more subtle  Joe Fields   Aug-12-09 01:50 PM   #25 
     - Yes, there are serious undercurrents here.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:55 PM   #34 
        - "the need to turn everything into a crisis of Munich-style proportions"  Codeine   Aug-12-09 02:12 PM   #56 
        - I strongly agree. Hyperbole is poisonous to political discourse  anigbrowl   Aug-12-09 02:33 PM   #67 
           - we're not talking hyperbole, and we're not talking political discourse, when  Joe Fields   Aug-14-09 12:13 AM   #158 
  - Well it really wouldn't.  Statistical   Aug-12-09 01:45 PM   #21 
  - I agree - let's not take the bait of these morans  HughMoran   Aug-12-09 01:40 PM   #14 
  - k/r  emilyg   Aug-12-09 01:42 PM   #16 
  - Reposting my marginal post :)...  SidDithers   Aug-12-09 01:43 PM   #17 
  - I wouldn't have had a problem with that.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:44 PM   #20 
  - Four years ago, the media woulda been interviewing survivors, not the guy himself.  Heidi   Aug-12-09 01:44 PM   #19 
  - No, because four years ago, this guy wouldn't have done anything too.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:52 PM   #29 
  - Say whatever the fuck you want, my opinion on gun control laws is forever changed  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 01:49 PM   #22 
  - Then you are very easily swayed.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:49 PM   #24 
  - Nope, not at all  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 01:51 PM   #26 
     - If they're all as toothless as this guy, I will sit back and laugh.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 01:56 PM   #37 
     - When it's a hundred assholes  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 01:57 PM   #38 
        - That's a chilling thought.  TwilightGardener   Aug-12-09 01:58 PM   #39 
        - And we will have a martyr and a civil war.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:01 PM   #43 
        - Another civil war in this country...  skypilot   Aug-12-09 02:04 PM   #46 
           - True.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:06 PM   #48 
        - Never seen real concentration of force.. Impressive..  Pavulon   Aug-12-09 09:45 PM   #110 
     - I'm American, so screw you.  madeline_con   Aug-12-09 09:41 PM   #107 
     - The thing of it is,  PSzymeczek   Aug-12-09 10:14 PM   #115 
  - Wow. It took 9/11 to make most others abandon our rights.  Codeine   Aug-12-09 02:13 PM   #59 
  - doesn't take much anymore, does it?  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:21 PM   #62 
  - NO open carry, NO concealed carry  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 03:06 PM   #80 
  - Frightened children scared of a bucktoothed dipshit.  Codeine   Aug-12-09 03:56 PM   #81 
  - Fuck that noise  WeDidIt   Aug-12-09 04:43 PM   #85 
     - And lose every election for the foreseeable future. nt  Codeine   Aug-12-09 09:27 PM   #99 
     - See drug war, with that first partner, then take on the big fish.(nt)  Pavulon   Aug-12-09 09:47 PM   #112 
  - Crime doesn't always happen at home.  madeline_con   Aug-12-09 09:43 PM   #108 
  - Well, abandon some of them, anyway  Posteritatis   Aug-12-09 09:41 PM   #106 
  - I oppose farting in public..  Pavulon   Aug-12-09 09:40 PM   #105 
  - Here was one poseur with a gun in a tactical holster, whom everyone  Obamanaut   Aug-12-09 01:49 PM   #23 
  - WAIT !!!  ashling   Aug-12-09 01:51 PM   #28 
  - Now there you go...  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:01 PM   #44 
  - Time to unrecommend...guns and violatile emotions are a bad mix...  joeybee12   Aug-12-09 01:52 PM   #30 
  - I'm not fucking scared  varelse   Aug-12-09 01:52 PM   #31 
  - They want you to be angry.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:05 PM   #47 
  - It's a nutcase signaling to other nutcases that they, too, can and should do this.  TwilightGardener   Aug-12-09 01:53 PM   #32 
  - That's what I believe...  misanthrope   Aug-12-09 01:56 PM   #36 
  - It was absolutely a dog whistle! n/t  PSzymeczek   Aug-12-09 10:16 PM   #116 
  - And for his trouble he got hauled in front of Tweety, and made to look like an ass.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:07 PM   #49 
  - No, he got fifteen minutes of fame and attention. That's what RW nutz cherish.  TwilightGardener   Aug-12-09 02:09 PM   #52 
     - Right, and Kim Jong Il scored a huge propaganda coup...er, not  anigbrowl   Aug-12-09 02:39 PM   #70 
        - Er, in their own minds, they are (scoring a coup). Normal people don't want infamy.  TwilightGardener   Aug-12-09 02:45 PM   #75 
           - Who cares about inside their own minds? What matters is how it affects their public standing  anigbrowl   Aug-12-09 05:03 PM   #89 
  - Yep! He wants to stir the shit and it is working. nt  kelly1mm   Aug-12-09 08:42 PM   #97 
  - I don't know about anyone else here...  skypilot   Aug-12-09 01:56 PM   #35 
  - Ditto. But gun worshippers would rather these extremists be able to stock up on guns than that there  katandmoon   Aug-12-09 02:09 PM   #51 
  - But that isn't one guy with one gun.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:10 PM   #53 
     - As far as I'm concerned...  skypilot   Aug-12-09 02:19 PM   #60 
        - Fair enough, hence my crack about how intimately he was being observed.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:20 PM   #61 
  - We tried to reason this yesterday  nadinbrzezinski   Aug-12-09 02:00 PM   #41 
  - And when 1 becomes 1,000 the SS will have to stick them in a pen, then watch the shit fly.  Stevenmarc   Aug-12-09 02:01 PM   #42 
  - When 1 becomes 1,000 this ceases to be an issue for the Secret Service  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:13 PM   #58 
     - The Posse Comitatus Act says otherwise  Hippo_Tron   Aug-14-09 03:19 PM   #171 
  - I'm also scared of rabid dogs-you're stupid if you aren't.  Swede   Aug-12-09 02:04 PM   #45 
  - Indeed, yet if one panics around a rabid dog, one runs an even greater risk of getting attacked.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:11 PM   #55 
  - And yet if he had displayed his DICK (what the gun is a substitute for) he WOULD have been arrested.  katandmoon   Aug-12-09 02:07 PM   #50 
  - One cannot display that which is too small to be observed. n/t  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:12 PM   #57 
  - So, in the event of a home invasion, and you think your well-being  Obamanaut   Aug-12-09 04:41 PM   #84 
  - If it were a car, I'd say  PSzymeczek   Aug-12-09 10:20 PM   #118 
  - It's the guy with the gun you DON't see, but  ashling   Aug-12-09 02:29 PM   #64 
  - It only takes one.  Maru Kitteh   Aug-12-09 02:29 PM   #65 
  - Yes, and that is why we have to consider the way we react.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:39 PM   #71 
  - Biblical, prophetic, deifying. n/t  newtothegame   Aug-12-09 02:33 PM   #66 
  - "than Gisele Bundchen is when she sunbathes on the Riviera"  redqueen   Aug-12-09 02:35 PM   #68 
  - Ok, I needed a similie that connoted voyeurism...  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:37 PM   #69 
  - Damn straight  gratuitous   Aug-12-09 02:48 PM   #76 
  - So what exactly do you propose?  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 02:51 PM   #77 
     - Jeez, you can't even agree with someone anymore!  gratuitous   Aug-12-09 03:06 PM   # 
     - I'm not looking for repeal or a major reworking,  PSzymeczek   Aug-12-09 10:25 PM   #121 
  - It's not the specific situation- although that is bad enough  depakid   Aug-12-09 03:06 PM   #79 
  - I fit the "gun nut" descriptor  TheKentuckian   Aug-12-09 04:08 PM   #82 
  - I don't disagree, this fool wanted to show that he was willing to take it to the next level.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 04:16 PM   #83 
  - Yup  TxRider   Aug-12-09 04:49 PM   #86 
  - Respectfully disagree.  H2O Man   Aug-12-09 04:53 PM   #87 
  - Fair enough.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 05:14 PM   #90 
     - I think that you  H2O Man   Aug-12-09 05:56 PM   #96 
        - Very disturbing parallels there.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 09:14 PM   #98 
        - You need to understand something which I am not sure that you do...  AuntPatsy   Aug-13-09 09:53 PM   #151 
           - But history never perfectly repeats itself.  SidneyCarton   Aug-13-09 10:00 PM   #153 
              - I am not automatically assuming anything, My assumption comes from not only  AuntPatsy   Aug-13-09 11:00 PM   #154 
                 - I am indeed young, so cut me some slack here.  SidneyCarton   Aug-14-09 12:15 PM   #160 
                    - It actually has happened  H2O Man   Aug-14-09 12:33 PM   #165 
                       - Good point, I overlooked that situation.  SidneyCarton   Aug-14-09 12:42 PM   #167 
        - Why is this not an OP?  Uzybone   Aug-13-09 09:45 PM   #149 
        - I agree and second your suggestion, if H2Oman obliges, I think this would be an excellent OP.  SidneyCarton   Aug-14-09 12:20 PM   #164 
        - Two things:  H2O Man   Aug-14-09 12:36 PM   #166 
        - exactly, why is this so hard to understand for some?  AuntPatsy   Aug-13-09 09:49 PM   #150 
  - I don't think you are emotional enough.  Tim01   Aug-12-09 04:55 PM   #88 
  - I don't panic and I don't scare easily.  asdjrocky   Aug-12-09 05:20 PM   #92 
  - I'm pissed too.  SidneyCarton   Aug-12-09 05:33 PM   #93 
  - lol...  fascisthunter   Aug-12-09 05:48 PM   #94 
  - This WILL escalate. How many protesters will show up "packing" in Montana and Colorado?  Fla Dem   Aug-12-09 09:31 PM   #100 
  - Who tha fuck cares, wake me up when a gun goes off.  Pavulon   Aug-12-09 09:46 PM   #111 
  - Will do.  Hassin Bin Sober   Aug-12-09 09:59 PM   #114 
  - yeah, you'd prolly be first to wet your pants, bro.  bettyellen   Aug-13-09 12:38 PM   #137 
     - Yes from fear of a moron with a gun..  Pavulon   Aug-13-09 05:01 PM   #142 
  - A gun fell out of a guy's pocket or holster (accounts vary)  PSzymeczek   Aug-12-09 10:30 PM   #122 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Aug-12-09 09:32 PM   #101 
  - Enjoy your pizza you racist piece of shit.  SIMPLYB1980   Aug-12-09 09:50 PM   #113 
     - Delete, misplaced.  EFerrari   Aug-12-09 10:22 PM   #119 
     - I would love to know what was said there  TK421   Aug-13-09 09:58 AM   #130 
  - ::::tap tap tap:::: ...... s'cuse me ....... erm ........  Stinky The Clown   Aug-12-09 09:36 PM   #102 
  - I usually don't rec *or* unrec, but I'm gonna make an exception. K&R (nt)  Posteritatis   Aug-12-09 09:37 PM   #104 
  - Reading threats is not panicking. n/t  EFerrari   Aug-12-09 09:44 PM   #109 
  - only takes one bullet my friend.  spanone   Aug-12-09 10:18 PM   #117 
  - True. The idiot had no chance to fire that one bullet. (n/t)  spin   Aug-12-09 10:32 PM   #123 
     - What if there were 20 idiots with a gun?  W_HAMILTON   Aug-13-09 07:38 AM   #127 
        - Interesting question...  spin   Aug-13-09 09:49 AM   #129 
        - I know that...  W_HAMILTON   Aug-13-09 01:11 PM   #138 
           - In normal times...  spin   Aug-13-09 02:12 PM   #140 
              - I hold your same fears....  AuntPatsy   Aug-13-09 09:56 PM   #152 
        - Not going to happen.  Pavulon   Aug-13-09 05:02 PM   #144 
           - I would think they wouldn't allow even one person...  W_HAMILTON   Aug-13-09 11:57 PM   #155 
              - He was not in the vicinity (ie range of the weapon he had)  Pavulon   Aug-14-09 02:58 PM   #168 
  - Well said!  proteus_lives   Aug-12-09 10:24 PM   #120 
  - so you have no real sense of perspective and speculate that if Obama dies it would be unfortunate?  bettyellen   Aug-13-09 07:26 AM   #124 
  - How many times does "one guy with a gun" have to kill a crowd of people before we stop acting like  dorkulon   Aug-13-09 07:30 AM   #125 
  - Well, if you come to Florida and many other states...  spin   Aug-13-09 02:31 PM   #141 
  - I'm afraid of being snapped in two pieces by a great white shark in the  saltpoint   Aug-13-09 07:30 AM   #126 
  - Just Arm Yourselves  LeFleur1   Aug-13-09 10:03 AM   #131 
     - "America, Show Us Your Guns!"  Sparkly   Aug-13-09 10:04 AM   #132 
     - You all just shoot it out without me.  saltpoint   Aug-13-09 09:32 PM   #145 
  - you must be young  ensho   Aug-13-09 10:46 AM   #133 
  - especially if he assumes it would be easy for the country to move on from it- how foolish that is  bettyellen   Aug-13-09 11:27 AM   #136 
  - I'm don't agree with you that Prez. O isn't afraid- he's  Bluerthanblue   Aug-13-09 10:53 AM   #134 
  - He was an arrogant asshole...  kentuck   Aug-13-09 11:17 AM   #135 
  - I'm very pro-gun...  spin   Aug-13-09 01:20 PM   #139 
     - I have several guns but this guy is still stupid and arrogant...  kentuck   Aug-14-09 12:09 AM   #157 
        - Agreed. (n/t)  spin   Aug-15-09 02:42 AM   #174 
  - There's a man with a gun over there  deaniac21   Aug-13-09 05:02 PM   #143 
  - I'm not sure I agree with you, I don't think his attention was to install fear, I believe his  AuntPatsy   Aug-13-09 09:36 PM   #146 
  - It was just a gun, he had a tactical semi automatic holster.  deaniac21   Aug-13-09 09:43 PM   #148 
  - No offense, but look at how much damage "one man with a gun"  johnaries   Aug-14-09 12:01 AM   #156 
  - And indeed he was watched, intimately.  SidneyCarton   Aug-14-09 12:19 PM   #162 
     - Then I will admit, I am a little confused by your post and I would appreciate  johnaries   Aug-14-09 08:47 PM   #172 
  - I Was Gonna Bash This Thread At First Reading, But...  ConnorMarc   Aug-14-09 12:19 AM   #159 
  - By law they could... and if they did, the situation would be very different.  SidneyCarton   Aug-14-09 12:17 PM   #161 
  - Happy to add Recommendation #20  slackmaster   Aug-14-09 12:20 PM   #163 
  - Try telling that to JFK  NNN0LHI   Aug-14-09 03:12 PM   #169 
  - This JFK?  X_Digger   Aug-14-09 09:07 PM   #173 
  - Depends on the person, and the setting  Fla_Democrat   Aug-14-09 03:13 PM   #170 
 

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