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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-28-09 01:17 PM
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48. Being in such a position of power over an individual's freedom, he had better get it fucking right
Edited on Tue Jul-28-09 01:18 PM by Bobbie Jo
99% of the time.

but that's just my opinion, of course.
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  -There is no proof that Crowley intensionally lied on his report. intheflow  Jul-28-09 11:55 AM   #0 
  - Pass the buttah and salt  xultar   Jul-28-09 11:59 AM   #1 
  - Co-cola?  ronnykmarshall   Jul-28-09 12:02 PM   #4 
     - Need rum too. Don't be skimpin on the refreshments.  xultar   Jul-28-09 12:43 PM   #29 
        - Hi guys, what's go'n on...  bridgit   Jul-28-09 12:57 PM   #36 
           - Nothin just watchin this craziness...and wishin I wasn't. It's like crack.  xultar   Jul-28-09 01:02 PM   #38 
              - hahaha, you got it it's like a Russian tunnel full of ice...  bridgit   Jul-28-09 01:08 PM   #42 
                 - holee shit...yup these Gates threads (mine included) are just like that...  xultar   Jul-28-09 01:10 PM   #43 
  - Before you go all off on white people,  Tangerine LaBamba   Jul-28-09 12:01 PM   #2 
  - A "nice" lynching tree for Caucasians?  redqueen   Jul-28-09 12:02 PM   #6 
  - Some live in alternate realities  ShamelessHussy   Jul-28-09 12:14 PM   #16 
  - An interesting 'turn of phrase', isn't it...  Spazito   Jul-28-09 12:26 PM   #28 
  - Well I got it, at least.  DireStrike   Jul-28-09 01:26 PM   #56 
  - So... it's a joke?  redqueen   Jul-28-09 01:58 PM   #66 
  - Oh yeah, that was HILARIOUS.  Quantess   Jul-28-09 05:09 PM   #123 
  - That one is so far gone she's just a speck on the horizon  Number23   Jul-28-09 07:24 PM   #132 
  - It changing daily only means it was WRONG from the git go. nt  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-28-09 12:08 PM   #12 
  - All the more reason NOT to form an opinion on the details...  JuniperLea   Jul-28-09 05:05 PM   #120 
     - No heroes in this one -  Tangerine LaBamba   Jul-28-09 07:28 PM   #134 
        - LOL! To start, TLB! Just to start!  JuniperLea   Jul-29-09 03:00 PM   #156 
  - Um, where did I go off on white people?  intheflow   Jul-28-09 12:19 PM   #18 
  - "All the information isn't in" = "we haven't figured out the next lie to tell people yet".  BlooInBloo   Jul-28-09 01:17 PM   #47 
  - Yes of course, don't discuss the flat out lies we know about  endarkenment   Jul-28-09 03:15 PM   #84 
  - "there was another witness at the scene, a witness who fits Crowley's description"  lexanman   Jul-28-09 06:40 PM   #130 
  - It's in the news reports -  Tangerine LaBamba   Jul-28-09 07:26 PM   #133 
     - post the link then  lexanman   Jul-28-09 07:40 PM   #135 
        - . .  Tangerine LaBamba   Jul-28-09 07:42 PM   #136 
           - please post the link  lexanman   Jul-28-09 07:50 PM   #137 
              - . . . . ... . . .  Tangerine LaBamba   Jul-28-09 07:59 PM   #139 
                 - show us the site oh Tangerine Esq.  lexanman   Jul-28-09 08:07 PM   #141 
                 - . . . . .  Tangerine LaBamba   Jul-28-09 08:12 PM   #143 
                    - you posted close to 4 paragraphs.  lexanman   Jul-28-09 08:15 PM   #145 
                 - where is the other witness that fit Crowley's description  lexanman   Jul-28-09 08:12 PM   #142 
                    - . . . .  Tangerine LaBamba   Jul-28-09 08:13 PM   #144 
                       - Verbatim, by Tangerine La Bamba  lexanman   Jul-28-09 08:18 PM   #146 
                          - Hi lexanman!  redqueen   Jul-29-09 09:52 AM   #150 
                             - hey  lexanman   Jul-30-09 02:33 AM   #157 
  - WTF?  Raineyb   Jul-29-09 10:07 AM   #153 
  - A tree used to lynch caucasians?  Cali_Democrat   Jul-30-09 02:45 AM   #158 
  - He claims to have spoken to the person who placed the 911  dsc   Jul-28-09 12:01 PM   #3 
  - So, he accidentally lied?  redqueen   Jul-28-09 12:02 PM   #5 
  - Kind of.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 12:21 PM   #19 
  - Hillary termed it "mis-spoke" when she did it  marshall   Jul-28-09 06:28 PM   #129 
  - So he's not an asshole...he's just an idiot?  Iggo   Jul-28-09 12:03 PM   #7 
  - Yep. Either way, he needs to be fired.  BlooInBloo   Jul-28-09 12:04 PM   #9 
  - I never said either.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 12:24 PM   #24 
  - No, he is still an asshole and and an idiot, but may have memory issues.  xultar   Jul-28-09 12:45 PM   #32 
  - Self-delete.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 01:15 PM   #45 
  - Yeah. Their tax dollars bought this guy a handgun.  Ikonoklast   Jul-28-09 02:33 PM   #73 
  - lololol!  BlooInBloo   Jul-28-09 12:04 PM   #8 
  - His memory failed in less than 36 MINUTES? WOW!  Spazito   Jul-28-09 12:06 PM   #10 
  - Yes, and I'm sure he was completely over his emotional response to the situation by then.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 12:25 PM   #27 
     - Sgt. Crowley was acting in an official capacity with a great deal of power...  Spazito   Jul-28-09 01:03 PM   #39 
        - True.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 01:12 PM   #44 
           - "what fueled the abuse was white privilege" is saying...  Spazito   Jul-28-09 01:26 PM   #57 
              - I never said racism didn't fuel the abuse.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 02:08 PM   #67 
                 - Your OP header is the why, imo, "so many here read my OP as saying that..."  Spazito   Jul-28-09 02:24 PM   #70 
  - As I said in another thread, this is the real problem with profiling -  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-28-09 12:06 PM   #11 
  - Did you read Leonard Pitt's piece?  Karenina   Jul-28-09 12:12 PM   #14 
     - No, I hadn't - thanks for the link.  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-28-09 12:25 PM   #26 
        - Having so prepped you, would you kindly indulge your Tante K.  Karenina   Jul-28-09 01:16 PM   #46 
           - Sure - lay it on me. nt  RaleighNCDUer   Jul-28-09 01:20 PM   #51 
              - I'm in this club waiting to be called up to the stage  Karenina   Jul-28-09 06:08 PM   #127 
                 - Completely off topic but which sax do you play?  Raineyb   Jul-29-09 10:11 AM   #154 
                    - The double-reed kind!  Karenina   Jul-29-09 11:24 AM   #155 
  - A number of social biases could be involved. Age and education are among them.  TahitiNut   Jul-28-09 12:08 PM   #13 
  - Gates was not brought up  NoQuarter   Jul-28-09 12:17 PM   #17 
     - You're probably more familiar with Piedmont, WV, than I am.  TahitiNut   Jul-28-09 12:24 PM   #25 
  - Soooooo.....  Hepburn   Jul-28-09 12:13 PM   #15 
  - True enough, but he may have *intentionally* lied on his report.. n/t  Fumesucker   Jul-28-09 12:21 PM   #20 
  - i fold  bridgit   Jul-28-09 12:22 PM   #21 
  - ronnykmarshall and I are eating popcorn and drinkin rum and coke post # 2  xultar   Jul-28-09 12:45 PM   #30 
     - Yay! I'll be right over ~  bridgit   Jul-28-09 12:54 PM   #34 
     - Tell Ronny he is missed.  Forkboy   Jul-28-09 02:29 PM   #71 
  - Riiiiight.  HiFructosePronSyrup   Jul-28-09 12:23 PM   #22 
  - I think the fact that he left out the circumstances under which he entered the home  BuyingThyme   Jul-28-09 12:23 PM   #23 
  - Why is everybody so keen on believing the "angry black male"  Solomon   Jul-28-09 12:45 PM   #31 
  - I never said Gates was to blame or got angry.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 01:03 PM   #40 
  - Exactly. And this particular cop knows the way it works so well  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 02:48 PM   #75 
  - Be that as it may, he is GUILTY of abusing his position.  Karenina   Jul-28-09 12:50 PM   #33 
  - Maybe he's a pot smoker.  Fuzz   Jul-28-09 12:55 PM   #35 
  - ..  intheflow   Jul-28-09 01:07 PM   #41 
  - "I lost my temper. I screwed up. I'm sorry."  Iggo   Jul-28-09 12:58 PM   #37 
  - They screwed it up worse at the police station.  4lbs   Jul-28-09 01:30 PM   #59 
  - Yep. You're right.  Iggo   Jul-28-09 01:32 PM   #61 
  - This sums up the whole mess. n/t  rucky   Jul-28-09 03:05 PM   #81 
  - Being in such a position of power over an individual's freedom, he had better get it fucking right  Bobbie Jo   Jul-28-09 01:17 PM   #48 
  - It would be great if we could get that kind of accuracy rate!  intheflow   Jul-28-09 01:22 PM   #52 
  - Yes, there is proof.  merh   Jul-28-09 01:19 PM   #49 
  - He couldn't misremember a conversation with a woman he didn't talk to.  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 01:58 PM   #65 
     - Have you listened to the recording of all of the audio on this?  merh   Jul-28-09 02:15 PM   #68 
        - I haven't listened to this, not. But you bring up a great point.  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 02:30 PM   #72 
           - He was manufacturing his "public"  merh   Jul-28-09 03:04 PM   #79 
              - That actually happened at our house once  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 03:08 PM   #82 
                 - Or at least had enough coffee and a few dozen doughnuts for them.  merh   Jul-28-09 04:10 PM   #104 
                 - Look at this, you can still see the lies (or NYT's inaccurate reporting.)  merh   Jul-28-09 04:30 PM   #109 
                    - LOL. Oh, brother. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 04:35 PM   #112 
                    - Holy crap! That HAD to have been written before they released the calls!  Spazito   Jul-28-09 05:02 PM   #119 
                       - my apologies, it was published on the 26th.  merh   Jul-28-09 05:06 PM   #121 
                          - I am VERY glad you did post it!  Spazito   Jul-28-09 05:10 PM   #124 
  - The audio of the 911 call refutes most of Crowley's police report.  4lbs   Jul-28-09 01:19 PM   #50 
  - I'm not saying he didn' t file a factually incorrect report.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 01:24 PM   #55 
     - That really doesn't make it any better. Falsifying a police report is bad no matter if it was  4lbs   Jul-28-09 01:27 PM   #58 
     - Please show me where in this thread I said Crowley shouldn't be held accountable.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 01:49 PM   #63 
        - You said there was no proof that Crowley intentionally lied on the police report.  4lbs   Jul-28-09 01:57 PM   #64 
        - You've never been in a situation with other people  intheflow   Jul-28-09 02:15 PM   #69 
           - Sure, weeks later. My memory would fail... weeks or months later.  4lbs   Jul-28-09 04:46 PM   #117 
           - That happened to me too when I was a kid  lexanman   Jul-28-09 07:13 PM   #131 
        - I hear what you're saying, I just don't agree with you this time.  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 02:45 PM   #74 
           - Well, again, that's white privilege, isn't it?  intheflow   Jul-28-09 03:22 PM   #90 
              - The way I can agree with your point about white privilege  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 03:26 PM   #92 
     - Sorry, he is the trainer at the Police Academny on how to avoid  merh   Jul-28-09 01:32 PM   #62 
  - Sounds like a distinction without a difference to me  KamaAina   Jul-28-09 01:24 PM   #53 
  - false report + false arrest = lying stupidly  jpak   Jul-28-09 01:24 PM   #54 
  - He lied. It's obvious.  Iggo   Jul-28-09 01:31 PM   #60 
  - I agree with you in part, but it may have zero to do with racism!  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 02:49 PM   #76 
  - Sgt. Crowley is a trained professional and, as such, is not only expected to...  Spazito   Jul-28-09 02:56 PM   #77 
  - I'll put it this way: I don't think Professor Gates is an evil person,  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 03:00 PM   #78 
  - Ahhh, I see! You always strive to "see and hope for the best in others" but...  Spazito   Jul-28-09 03:12 PM   #83 
  - Why did you use the word 'chosen?'  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 03:21 PM   #88 
     - That's what Sergeant Jim Crow said. He found Gates' tone disturbing.  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 03:34 PM   #96 
     - The very fact you use the "yo mama" quote...  Spazito   Jul-28-09 03:46 PM   #100 
        - You are absolutely right...There was no tape of him saying that, although  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 03:59 PM   #102 
           - I see you have NOT done your homework, gosh, I'm shocked...  Spazito   Jul-28-09 04:11 PM   #105 
              - Has Gates refuted it? n/t  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 04:21 PM   #106 
                 - Yes, he has n/t  Spazito   Jul-28-09 04:30 PM   #108 
  - And those are your projections. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 03:17 PM   #87 
  - he delivered on his warning  rucky   Jul-28-09 04:31 PM   #110 
  - Your point about the dispatcher actually damns Crowley  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 03:17 PM   #86 
  - "We should always see and hope for the best in others."  intheflow   Jul-28-09 03:26 PM   #91 
     - Wow, so now Crowley is the equivalent of Bush/Cheney?!  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 03:29 PM   #93 
        - No, but assuming everyone should be given a free pass is naive.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 03:36 PM   #97 
           - Hey, I am far from naive, but the information we have been given just doesn't support the charges.  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 03:41 PM   #99 
              - Gates was working in China. And his father worked in a paper mill.  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 04:03 PM   #103 
                 - People were saying that one reason he was cranky was that he had just had a grueling flight  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 04:24 PM   #107 
                    - So, your beef with Gates is that he didn't work hard enough  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 04:33 PM   #111 
                       - Not 'hard enough,' but I think that overall, he has a charmed life, don't you?  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 04:37 PM   #113 
                          - Go run down for yourself all the stuff Gates has done.  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 04:44 PM   #116 
                             - When I went to the library and looked him up  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 04:49 PM   #118 
                                - I've done both. I've hung drywall in my family's business  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 05:07 PM   #122 
                                   - As to your last point, I posted that very factoid. Also, you used the name 'Skip.'  teachableseconds   Jul-28-09 05:18 PM   #125 
                                      - No, I don't know Skip Gates personally. Too bad, too.  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 05:23 PM   #126 
  - I think I'm going to go with Occam on this one.  rucky   Jul-28-09 03:05 PM   #80 
  - Just another isolated incident. n/t  ColbertWatcher   Jul-28-09 03:16 PM   #85 
  - That's not what I'm saying at all!  intheflow   Jul-28-09 03:30 PM   #94 
     - But, it still takes Crowley's responsibility for his own actions away from him.  ColbertWatcher   Jul-28-09 03:37 PM   #98 
        - I don't see how my OP  intheflow   Jul-28-09 03:57 PM   #101 
           - "we are each responsible for our own actions AND we are motivated ..." True.  ColbertWatcher   Jul-28-09 08:27 PM   #147 
  - I'm not sure about his intentionality, but he fabricated a conversation with Whalen  goodhue   Jul-28-09 03:21 PM   #89 
  - Thanks for the clarification.  intheflow   Jul-28-09 03:34 PM   #95 
  - Lame excuses for a bullshit arrest.  Lord Helmet   Jul-28-09 04:38 PM   #114 
  - false arrests  maglatinavi   Jul-29-09 02:28 AM   #149 
  - he knows if he talked to that woman or not. if his short term memory is so poor to remember  seabeyond   Jul-28-09 04:41 PM   #115 
  - Indeed, we all have to make our own judgement. I know I've arrived at mine. nt  bemildred   Jul-28-09 06:10 PM   #128 
  - Ms. Whalen is holding a press conference tomorrow. The scene continues. n/t  EFerrari   Jul-28-09 08:04 PM   #140 
     - Yeah, that ought to be good. nt  bemildred   Jul-29-09 09:57 AM   #151 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jul-28-09 07:51 PM   #138 
  - fail  fascisthunter   Jul-28-09 08:29 PM   #148 
  - Police officers lie to make cases.  DefenseLawyer   Jul-29-09 10:05 AM   #152 
  - Damn,a late read, too late to recommend, and I see the pro-racism pro-pig crowd  ConsAreLiars   Jul-30-09 04:40 AM   #159 
 

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