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| 45. Motherfucking NARWHAL knows the truth |
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too bad they can't talk... How soon till this thread gets moved-  |
| -Teachable Moment? What Separates A Bad CT (Birthers) From A Healthy CT (JFK & Truthers) |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:13 AM |
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JFK & 9/11 Conspiracy Theories involve trying to understand a tragedy. |
Eric J in MN |
Jun-11-09 01:15 AM |
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That's a good answer. Care to comment further? |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:18 AM |
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All CTs are about the avoidance of a difficult truth. People don't like thinking that |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-11-09 01:27 AM |
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In one sense, a belief in the JFK & 911 CTs is harmless in that nobody |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:41 AM |
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The murder of JFK, and the 9/11 attacks, each involved more than one person.... |
Eric J in MN |
Jun-11-09 01:43 AM |
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That's a belief that is not supported by the evidence in the JFK case |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:51 AM |
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I was 20 when Kennedy was assassinated. After his death, |
JDPriestly |
Jun-11-09 06:58 AM |
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I agree that there are conspiracies, and conspiracies to assassinate presidents |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 10:30 AM |
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The House Committee on Assassinations disagrees |
Recursion |
Jun-11-09 08:55 AM |
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In the main, the HSCA affirmed the findings of the WCR and was ready to |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 10:18 AM |
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Senator Richard Schweiker "the JFK assassination investigation was snuffed out before it even began" |
MinM |
Jun-11-09 10:38 AM |
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You realize that you're misquoting Nixon, don't you. |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 10:44 AM |
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You mean the facts that read... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 10:52 AM |
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I was waiting for someone to bring up that "minor detail"... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:03 AM |
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Are you claiming there is no evidence that the JFK |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 10:48 AM |
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It's supported by a hell of a lot more facts than the Warren Commission Report is. |
EOTE |
Jun-11-09 11:18 AM |
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What absurdity would that be? Please explain. |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 12:11 PM |
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How about claiming that an exit wound is in fact an entrance wound? |
EOTE |
Jun-11-09 03:48 PM |
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I don't know where you're getting your info, but it isn't good info. |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 05:04 PM |
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I find it rather odd that you'd request me to include cites for my claims |
EOTE |
Jun-12-09 10:44 AM |
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This is sadly a typical CT conflation of events to create a new reality. |
stopbush |
Jun-12-09 03:31 PM |
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"It doesn't matter one iota what the ER doctors and staff thought they saw when they were |
Time for change |
Jun-13-09 02:20 PM |
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Here you go |
Time for change |
Jun-13-09 02:17 PM |
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#58 would apply to this post as well. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-11-09 10:47 AM |
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CTs are attempts to look beyond official explanations for events when |
JDPriestly |
Jun-11-09 06:38 AM |
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I think our posts are just different spin on the same idea. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-11-09 10:48 AM |
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I don't think any sort of irrational thinking is healthy. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-11-09 01:21 AM |
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I like your answer too. |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:24 AM |
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Absolutely. |
anigbrowl |
Jun-11-09 01:27 AM |
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You missed one. |
RC |
Jun-11-09 06:48 AM |
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Compare Thom Hartmann to Limbaugh. Hartmann is so reasonable |
JDPriestly |
Jun-11-09 07:02 AM |
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+1... |
SidDithers |
Jun-11-09 08:22 AM |
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Very astute |
konnichi wa |
Jun-11-09 08:59 AM |
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Let's try not to forget: The "official" story of 9/11 *IS* a Conspiracy Theory. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-11-09 10:26 AM |
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That's true. The nomenclature, "conspiracy theory," isn't very good. |
Occam Bandage |
Jun-11-09 10:46 AM |
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Well, Conspiracy Theorists merely need to do some waterboarding to get legitimacy. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-11-09 10:48 AM |
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thumbs up ... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:06 AM |
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Nail, meet Head. eom |
JuliantheApostate |
Jun-11-09 01:52 PM |
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they both suck and can be dangerous although the wingnuts tend to be more openly violent |
JI7 |
Jun-11-09 01:32 AM |
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I'm with you on the vaccine mythology. |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:35 AM |
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"This isn't meant as flamebait." |
leftstreet |
Jun-11-09 01:36 AM |
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Yes, I know that it's near impossible to have a discussion about CTs on DU |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:45 AM |
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And we are not IBTL |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:13 AM |
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Your post's title suggests political affiliation is what seperates a bad CT from a healthy one (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Jun-11-09 01:39 AM |
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That's true to some extent, but our "healthy" JFK CT belief is shared by most Rs as well. |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 01:47 AM |
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Nothing. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 02:23 AM |
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Call me when an Oliver Stone fan starts killing people. |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 06:40 AM |
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von Brunn was a Truther, you know that, right? |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 07:42 AM |
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You're blind to the distinctions between people who have legitimate questions |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 08:17 AM |
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Jun-11-09 08:38 AM |
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Oh right, Cindy Sheehan = Adolf Hitler. |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 09:02 AM |
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Whilst we're being civil to each other n' at... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:15 AM |
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Yeah? What "truth" was he all about? |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 10:53 AM |
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Why would this be relevant? |
JackRiddler |
Jun-11-09 02:44 PM |
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Um...that's my point. |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 04:15 PM |
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Um... sure. |
JackRiddler |
Jun-11-09 04:35 PM |
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Some CTs are bad, ergo covert ops do not exist... |
Junkdrawer |
Jun-11-09 06:59 AM |
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No difference at all |
NoPasaran |
Jun-11-09 07:03 AM |
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See #43 |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 12:01 PM |
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Any "theory" that is not supported by evidence is a bad theory. |
surrealAmerican |
Jun-11-09 07:44 AM |
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And when the official story isn't supported by the evidence...? |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 08:18 AM |
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Then it's just that: a "story". |
surrealAmerican |
Jun-11-09 08:53 AM |
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And when people rightly question that story |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 09:14 AM |
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No. That happens when they formulate an alternative ... |
surrealAmerican |
Jun-11-09 09:24 AM |
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One of the major reasons the Bush Regime gave for the invasion of Iraq was that Saddam had WMDs. |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 09:49 AM |
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This example demonstrates the uselessness of the terminology. |
JackRiddler |
Jun-11-09 02:12 PM |
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A conspiracy theorist is someone who has run afoul of TPTB |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 03:38 PM |
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Well the few who think the WTC was blown down by explosives are harmless, mostly. |
konnichi wa |
Jun-11-09 09:01 AM |
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Except for the guy who shot up the museum yesterday. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 09:04 AM |
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Wot? |
konnichi wa |
Jun-11-09 09:06 AM |
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He was an Alex Jones-type. |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 09:21 AM |
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Oh, okay...I just assumed he was a regular garden variety screwball. |
konnichi wa |
Jun-11-09 09:32 AM |
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I am. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 09:37 AM |
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Not YOU, silly boy! |
konnichi wa |
Jun-11-09 10:12 AM |
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Oh, oh! |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 10:17 AM |
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von Brunn was a 9/11 Truther. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 09:32 AM |
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Glenn Beck says 9/11 truthers are destoying America |
MinM |
Jun-11-09 10:01 AM |
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Hey MinM... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 01:47 PM |
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And Adolf Hitler's religion was... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:10 AM |
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It doesn't say anything about other Catholics. Hitler was obsessed with Zionist conspiracies. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 11:31 AM |
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This is not true! |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:37 AM |
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Hitler drove a green car, therefore everyone who drives a green car is the same as Hitler. |
baldguy |
Jun-11-09 12:00 PM |
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JFK? No. 911? Absolutely. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 12:42 PM |
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You live in a world of absolutes... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 01:01 PM |
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Ridiculing Truthers for blaming 9/11 on Israel doesn't mean I live in a world of absolutes. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 01:18 PM |
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Um.. DO you even know what you mean to say? |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 01:30 PM |
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I defy you to find a Truther screed that doesn't involve Israel. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 01:34 PM |
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Your posts do a fine job of that by inviting comment... record time |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 01:42 PM |
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I don't see anything about 9/11 on that page, did you send the wrong link? |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 02:04 PM |
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Since you didn't visit the same site's 2008 archives... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 02:33 PM |
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From your link(did you read it?): |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 02:45 PM |
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I not only read it, I LISTENED TO THE ENTIRE INTERVIEW |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 03:27 PM |
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You do a lot of yelling and wtf-ing for someone telling me to calm down so often. |
billyoc |
Jun-11-09 03:49 PM |
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Yes, I sure do say, "WTF" |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 05:22 PM |
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few? |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:18 AM |
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Please provide a source for (I'm still waiting...) |
Subdivisions |
Jun-11-09 11:33 AM |
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You mean you haven't heard the wacko theories? |
konnichi wa |
Jun-11-09 05:46 PM |
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Motherfucking NARWHAL knows the truth |
snooper2 |
Jun-11-09 10:04 AM |
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Far and away the most harmful and common 9/11 conspiracy theory is that Iraq was involved |
Recursion |
Jun-11-09 10:21 AM |
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You're absolutely right. |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-11-09 02:25 PM |
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OK |
BeFree |
Jun-11-09 10:30 AM |
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Given the connection to the 9/11 conspiracies |
TheBigotBasher |
Jun-11-09 10:33 AM |
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What I wonder is why people put so much faith in govt explanations |
ecstatic |
Jun-11-09 10:36 AM |
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It's normal to question any government explanation that is based on |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 10:46 AM |
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That's where I believe you've wandered off the reservation... |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:21 AM |
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Ok, I thought CT was computerized tomography. |
undeterred |
Jun-11-09 10:49 AM |
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bwah |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 11:04 AM |
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What does it mean? |
Swede |
Jun-11-09 01:51 PM |
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Why, conspiracy theorist, Swede! |
MrMickeysMom |
Jun-11-09 05:32 PM |
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You really seem to be very uncomfortable that people believe in CTs. |
EOTE |
Jun-11-09 11:26 AM |
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I semi-tacitly believed the JFK CTs for a long time and read many of |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 12:08 PM |
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I've read plenty of books supporting the WCR. |
EOTE |
Jun-11-09 03:40 PM |
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I disagree with your characterization of the WCR, but I appreciate |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 03:47 PM |
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I can't tell you at the moment because the site those pics are on is blocked by my work firewall |
EOTE |
Jun-11-09 03:51 PM |
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Got it. You can check out a more-expansive take on the |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 04:57 PM |
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I reply at post #118. NT |
EOTE |
Jun-12-09 10:49 AM |
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Actually, the question is: What brings them together? |
JackRiddler |
Jun-11-09 12:50 PM |
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I've long given up on the idea that enough people give a fuck one way or the other... |
Echo In Light |
Jun-11-09 02:09 PM |
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No conspiracy theory is healthy. |
alarimer |
Jun-11-09 02:36 PM |
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Congratulations. |
Kaleko |
Jun-11-09 06:02 PM |
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David Ray Griffin MP3 Vancouver 9/11 Truth Society |
Echo In Light |
Jun-12-09 01:49 PM |
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The JFK assassination and the WTC attack actually happened. |
endarkenment |
Jun-11-09 03:50 PM |
#107 |
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What are the "lots of problems with the official version" of the JFK assassination? |
stopbush |
Jun-11-09 09:24 PM |
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WC purpose was to cover up the truth about the assassination. Cover-up = LIE. |
Octafish |
Jun-12-09 11:14 AM |
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Interesting post... |
LeftishBrit |
Jun-13-09 01:04 PM |
#123 |
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