| 94. Yes, yes was sodomized -- he DOESN'T HAVE A VAGINA |
|
End of partcipating in your faux "argumment."
|
| -Teens Charged As Adults In Sex Assault |
The Straight Story |
Jun-03-09 11:40 AM |
#0 |
 -
Good |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-03-09 11:41 AM |
#1 |
  -
Feel Better Now? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 11:45 AM |
#2 |
| -
they ananlly raped a kid with sticks |
lies and propaganda |
Jun-03-09 11:48 AM |
#3 |
| -
did they? you know this how? |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 01:30 PM |
#43 |
| -
uh... Say what, now? |
Chulanowa |
Jun-03-09 01:36 PM |
#48 |
| -
cut the strawmen crap |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 01:47 PM |
#58 |
| -
It's not a straw man |
Chulanowa |
Jun-03-09 02:09 PM |
#69 |
| -
it IS a strawman |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:13 PM |
#71 |
| -
It was a rape |
Chulanowa |
Jun-03-09 02:55 PM |
#122 |
| -
It says right in the OP that they sodomized the boy, after torturing him |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 01:46 PM |
#55 |
| -
no, it doesn't |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:03 PM |
#65 |
| -
Yes, it does -- wtf do you think that means? |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:04 PM |
#66 |
| -
so you admit you are wrong |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:09 PM |
#70 |
| -
No, I didn't admit anything of teh kind -- it's being called a rape |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:30 PM |
#77 |
| -
false |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:33 PM |
#81 |
| -
Are you on shrooms or something??? |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:34 PM |
#84 |
| -
i have no idea whether he was sodomized or not |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:37 PM |
#88 |
| -
Yes, yes was sodomized -- he DOESN'T HAVE A VAGINA |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:42 PM |
#94 |
| -
penetration of the mouth |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:43 PM |
#101 |
| -
I know -- sodomy, which is what I said |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:45 PM |
#104 |
| -
He was sexually assaulted by putting a hockey stick in his mouth? |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-09 03:00 PM |
#133 |
| -
come on get real it's pretty clear they are talking sodomy here. |
WI_DEM |
Jun-03-09 03:48 PM |
#165 |
| -
Maybe they just made him masturbate with the stick. See? (sarcasm) |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-09 02:59 PM |
#132 |
| -
I'm confused - what exactly did you think they did? |
TrogL |
Jun-03-09 02:00 PM |
#64 |
| -
i don't know specifically WHAT they did |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:07 PM |
#67 |
| -
You like to parse words don't you? so you think simple assault would get them 30 years? |
Javaman |
Jun-03-09 02:28 PM |
#74 |
| -
i;m not trying to justify anything |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:39 PM |
#91 |
| -
I saw no " backpedaling, obfuscations, strawmen and assumptions" |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:44 PM |
#102 |
| -
and i keep trying to explain to you |
paulsby |
Jun-03-09 02:49 PM |
# |
| -
What's wrong with you? |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 03:11 PM |
#140 |
| -
man, you really need to find the clue phone fast, it's ringing only for you. |
Javaman |
Jun-03-09 03:14 PM |
#144 |
| -
could also be the legal definition of rape |
TorchTheWitch |
Jun-03-09 03:48 PM |
#163 |
| -
No, you are WRONG |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jun-03-09 02:43 PM |
#100 |
| -
Grabbing breast |
TransitJohn |
Jun-03-09 03:03 PM |
#135 |
| -
Legally, that would be sexual abuse |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jun-03-09 03:10 PM |
#139 |
| -
"Sexual battery" in Georgia |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 03:14 PM |
#145 |
| -
Pfffft. |
TransitJohn |
Jun-03-09 03:18 PM |
#146 |
| -
That answers my question |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 03:42 PM |
#159 |
| -
Why even bother to make the distinction |
TrogL |
Jun-03-09 03:33 PM |
#154 |
| -
FYI - IN FLORIDA IT'S NOT CALLED RAPE, IT'S CALLED SEXUAL ASSAULT. carry on. eom |
ellenfl |
Jun-03-09 02:27 PM |
#73 |
| -
It is in most places now, because that covers more "incidents" than "rape" |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:32 PM |
#80 |
| -
well, it doesnt say they beat him with it |
lies and propaganda |
Jun-03-09 03:13 PM |
#141 |
| -
You think they WON'T get raped in jail? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:31 PM |
#78 |
| -
They won't raped there any more than in Juvie |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:35 PM |
#85 |
| -
No,. but i also didnt act like they rape THEY commited |
lies and propaganda |
Jun-03-09 03:13 PM |
#143 |
| -
Dupe |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-03-09 11:48 AM |
# |
| -
Keep them in juvie until they're 18 and send them to grown up prison then |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-03-09 11:48 AM |
#4 |
| -
for some DUers, someone 17 years, 364 days, 59 minutes, and 59 seconds old is completely innocent |
FLAprogressive |
Jun-03-09 12:19 PM |
#19 |
| -
Yeah, and that's just absurd |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-03-09 12:24 PM |
#22 |
| -
I know -- a sociopath is a socipath at any age |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 01:46 PM |
#57 |
| -
They committed an adult crime |
WeDidIt |
Jun-03-09 11:49 AM |
#5 |
| -
Basically hard to say this was anything other than a deliberate and malicious act |
Mike Daniels |
Jun-03-09 12:25 PM |
#23 |
| -
So you don't think any distinction should be made between child offenders and adult offenders? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:31 PM |
#79 |
| -
I personally don't think there should be for certain premeditated crimes |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:46 PM |
#106 |
| -
Most of the time, yes. |
WeDidIt |
Jun-03-09 02:49 PM |
#113 |
| -
I don't see how in this case it makes a difference in terms of penalty |
Mike Daniels |
Jun-03-09 02:52 PM |
#119 |
| -
Are you saying they didn't know what they did is wrong? |
mamaleah |
Jun-03-09 09:59 PM |
#183 |
| -
do i hear a 'boys will be boys' in there somewhere? |
ellenfl |
Jun-03-09 11:50 AM |
#7 |
| -
No, you don't. Unless you decide to ascribe it to me. |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:33 PM |
#82 |
| -
You brought that up |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 02:49 PM |
#114 |
| -
Why do you keep accusing others of desiring prison rape? |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-09 03:02 PM |
#134 |
| -
As per your own line of questioning... |
LanternWaste |
Jun-04-09 12:31 PM |
#187 |
| -
Congratulate them. They chose behavior that EMANCIPATED themselves. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-03-09 11:52 AM |
#9 |
| -
Oh, my. Your subject line brilliantly says it all. I agree. |
pacalo |
Jun-03-09 01:49 PM |
#61 |
| -
What do you think is likely to happen to a fourteen or fifteen year old put in prison? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:35 PM |
#86 |
| -
A 15-year-old rapist is a rapist, not a misunderstood kid |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:47 PM |
#108 |
| -
That's a DIFFERENT problem. Fix that problem separately. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-03-09 02:47 PM |
#109 |
| -
Sadly, people who commit crimes generally don't think... |
Javaman |
Jun-03-09 03:19 PM |
#147 |
| -
Ummmm...... |
Coyote_Bandit |
Jun-03-09 11:53 AM |
#10 |
| -
Ummmmmm....You DO understand the difference between saying, |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:36 PM |
#87 |
| -
Do you? If convicted they will be put in a juvenile facility until they reach adult |
walldude |
Jun-03-09 02:43 PM |
#99 |
| -
What's your solution? |
dgibby |
Jun-03-09 12:12 PM |
#14 |
| -
Probably a "time out" and no dessert. |
TahitiNut |
Jun-03-09 12:13 PM |
#15 |
| -
You crack me up! Thanks, I needed a good laugh today! |
dgibby |
Jun-03-09 12:26 PM |
#24 |
| -
Little too harsh. No desert would do. |
olegramps |
Jun-03-09 03:13 PM |
#142 |
| -
No dessert? You barbarian! |
mamaleah |
Jun-03-09 10:01 PM |
#184 |
| -
It's time to look forward -- not back |
nichomachus |
Jun-03-09 01:28 PM |
#42 |
| -
Prosecute juveniles as juveniles. |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:37 PM |
#89 |
| -
Did the kid they tortured feel good? |
Butch350 |
Jun-03-09 12:20 PM |
#20 |
| -
No, they should not merely give the bullies "a strong talking to." |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:38 PM |
#90 |
| -
So, two years in juvie for multiple rape, so they can gte out and rape again |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:49 PM |
#112 |
| -
does the idea of them... |
VelmaD |
Jun-03-09 12:57 PM |
#33 |
| -
Nope. Which is why I think rape should be prevented in both adult prisons |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:40 PM |
#92 |
| -
Nice job with the Bitch-and-Run. |
Ignis |
Jun-03-09 01:18 PM |
#37 |
| -
I'm right here. |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:41 PM |
#93 |
| -
Hey, welcome back! |
Ignis |
Jun-03-09 03:33 PM |
#153 |
| -
They are old enough to know better |
Dappleganger |
Jun-03-09 01:24 PM |
#40 |
| -
So if the fourteen year old had "consented" to sex with an adult, |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:42 PM |
#95 |
| -
That is a total strawman, which you know |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:49 PM |
#116 |
| -
Well, my sins are pretty tiny compared to theirs |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jun-03-09 01:28 PM |
#41 |
| -
How very commendable of you. |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:42 PM |
#97 |
| -
More commendable than defending rapists |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jun-03-09 02:52 PM |
#118 |
| -
Their victim |
mzmolly |
Jun-03-09 01:44 PM |
#53 |
| -
And that makes them adults? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:43 PM |
#98 |
| -
No, but if convicted it makes them guilty of a heinous crime. |
olegramps |
Jun-03-09 03:27 PM |
#151 |
| -
No, but apparently it makes the child who was brutally raped |
mzmolly |
Jun-03-09 03:48 PM |
#164 |
| -
Seriously |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 06:29 PM |
#177 |
| -
Agreed. |
mzmolly |
Jun-03-09 09:31 PM |
#182 |
| -
Concern for the victim is not in evidence from her posts, just the perps. |
dgibby |
Jun-03-09 03:45 PM |
#161 |
| -
Odd |
mzmolly |
Jun-03-09 04:38 PM |
#170 |
| -
I'll second her -- good, they are sociopaths and need to be kept from society |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 01:45 PM |
#54 |
| -
What makes you think they won't be raped in prison? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:44 PM |
#103 |
| -
What makes you think they won't be raped in Juvie? |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:51 PM |
#117 |
| -
Damn |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 02:42 PM |
#96 |
| -
I have no intention of apologizing for objecting to two teenagers being tried as adults. |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:45 PM |
#105 |
| -
But you do owe an apology for a personal attack, which is against DU rules |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:53 PM |
#120 |
| -
Somehow I knew you wouldn't |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 02:54 PM |
#121 |
| -
Thank you |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
Jun-03-09 02:59 PM |
#131 |
| -
!di nada! |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 03:08 PM |
#138 |
| -
Those poor, poor teens... |
brendan120678 |
Jun-03-09 11:50 AM |
#6 |
| -
you forgot the sarcasm emotie . . . didn't you? eom |
ellenfl |
Jun-03-09 11:52 AM |
#8 |
| -
Is one really needed? Really? |
brendan120678 |
Jun-03-09 11:58 AM |
#11 |
| -
Anyone who can't recognize the sarcasm in that post needs training wheels on their keyboard! |
dgibby |
Jun-03-09 12:14 PM |
#16 |
| -
there is always someone who doesn't. you should know that by now. eom |
ellenfl |
Jun-03-09 01:48 PM |
#60 |
| -
Best replay ever! LOL nt |
Javaman |
Jun-03-09 02:30 PM |
#75 |
| -
Where did I say any of this? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:46 PM |
#107 |
| -
Whats wrong with this? |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 12:01 PM |
#12 |
| -
WTF? |
chrisa |
Jun-03-09 12:31 PM |
#26 |
| -
I just don't see how these children will grow up and effectively work in an American military prison |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 12:34 PM |
#27 |
| -
Ignorant. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-03-09 12:43 PM |
#28 |
| -
I also don't like puppies |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 12:50 PM |
#30 |
| -
Sorry to burst your bubble. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-03-09 01:13 PM |
#35 |
| -
Well, I disagree |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 01:18 PM |
#38 |
| -
Hey...you know what...FUCK YOU |
JANdad |
Jun-03-09 01:05 PM |
#34 |
| -
Of course you didn't |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 01:13 PM |
#36 |
| -
What is WITH you? Are you accusing the poster of being a rapist? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jun-03-09 01:32 PM |
#45 |
| -
Well if that isn't a straw man. |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 01:42 PM |
#51 |
| -
"Admiring his self control"? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Jun-03-09 02:59 PM |
#130 |
| -
"when you accused the other poster" |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 03:24 PM |
#150 |
| -
You don't have a point, do you? |
proteus_lives |
Jun-03-09 03:36 PM |
#155 |
| -
I apologize if you think I am smearing a group |
Oregone |
Jun-03-09 03:43 PM |
#160 |
| -
You can of course point towards a dynamic, healthy society |
LanternWaste |
Jun-04-09 01:31 PM |
#189 |
| -
You then believe that the soldiers guilty |
LanternWaste |
Jun-04-09 01:27 PM |
#188 |
| -
Even in my day, insipid stuff like this was just not common. |
Deja Q |
Jun-03-09 12:02 PM |
#13 |
| -
"boys will be boys"? Sadly it is a prevailing excuse. |
Jkid |
Jun-03-09 12:18 PM |
#17 |
| -
Um, I think they did rape a harmless person. |
dgibby |
Jun-03-09 12:29 PM |
#25 |
| -
Is trying juveniles as juveniles too difficult a concept to grasp? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:47 PM |
#110 |
| -
Your attack on Haruka showed you don't think their crime was taht big of a deal |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:55 PM |
#123 |
| -
Is venal hyperbole your only means of communication? |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 03:20 PM |
#148 |
| -
Is holding a person accountable for their actions to difficult of a concept for you to grasp? |
olegramps |
Jun-03-09 03:36 PM |
#156 |
| -
Florida again. Yikes. |
Ron Green |
Jun-03-09 12:19 PM |
#18 |
| -
Yeah! That's it. |
timtom |
Jun-03-09 12:57 PM |
#32 |
| -
Duh |
L0oniX |
Jun-03-09 04:58 PM |
#172 |
| -
If the perps are found guilty, the victim should sue them in civil court. |
Jkid |
Jun-03-09 12:20 PM |
#21 |
| -
Good! |
proteus_lives |
Jun-03-09 12:44 PM |
#29 |
| -
And what do you imagine happening to them in an adult prison? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:48 PM |
#111 |
| -
Nothing, since they wouldn't be housed with the adult population |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:55 PM |
#124 |
| -
Nothing since they will not be with the adult prisoners |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-09 03:05 PM |
#136 |
| -
Exactly what they deserve. |
proteus_lives |
Jun-03-09 03:31 PM |
#152 |
| -
Bullying him for months didn't seem to be enough for them. |
lpbk2713 |
Jun-03-09 12:54 PM |
#31 |
| -
And you like that idea, do you? |
Pamela Troy |
Jun-03-09 02:49 PM |
#115 |
| -
You seem to like accusing people of wanting to get off on thinking of these guys being raped |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:58 PM |
#128 |
| -
Being incarcerated in a juvie facility vs not with adults in regular prison is better? |
uppityperson |
Jun-03-09 03:06 PM |
#137 |
| -
That's really sick |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 03:22 PM |
#149 |
| -
It appears to me that you are the one with the notions that they will be sexual assaulted in prison. |
olegramps |
Jun-03-09 03:39 PM |
#157 |
| -
Why charge them as adults? |
Quantess |
Jun-03-09 01:22 PM |
#39 |
| -
Why not? |
chemenger |
Jun-03-09 01:31 PM |
#44 |
| -
So they can learn from the older inmates? |
Quantess |
Jun-03-09 01:34 PM |
#47 |
| -
They won't be housed with adult criminals |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 01:56 PM |
#63 |
| -
It would accomplish, IMO.... |
Hepburn |
Jun-03-09 01:34 PM |
#46 |
| -
As someone else suggested.... |
Mike Daniels |
Jun-03-09 01:43 PM |
#52 |
| -
IMO, it is important to keep society safe from them. |
Hepburn |
Jun-03-09 01:47 PM |
#59 |
| -
These kids are assholes and monsters |
Zodiak |
Jun-03-09 01:38 PM |
#49 |
| -
huh? who says? |
ellenfl |
Jun-03-09 02:25 PM |
#72 |
| -
It happens on here all the time -- it's odious |
LostinVA |
Jun-03-09 02:33 PM |
#83 |
| -
Just about half of this country feels that anal rape in our detention facilities |
Zodiak |
Jun-03-09 02:56 PM |
#125 |
| -
You suggest that this trial indicates |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 03:39 PM |
#158 |
| -
Thanks |
Zodiak |
Jun-03-09 06:29 PM |
#178 |
| -
Our entire prison system is a blemish. |
Dogtown |
Jun-03-09 06:48 PM |
#181 |
| -
"Don't drop your soap in the shower!" "...when some big XXX makes you his b**ch!" |
JHB |
Jun-03-09 03:50 PM |
#166 |
| -
you're talking tv!? please. eom |
ellenfl |
Jun-03-09 03:58 PM |
#167 |
| -
They should be. |
Vidar |
Jun-03-09 01:41 PM |
#50 |
| -
"multiple incidents on different dates." |
Ganja Ninja |
Jun-03-09 01:46 PM |
#56 |
| -
Another ariticle on the sexual assault from the Tampa Trib... |
spin |
Jun-03-09 01:50 PM |
#62 |
| -
Where is the "their brains aren't fully developed - they're prone to impulsivity" crowd? |
aikoaiko |
Jun-03-09 02:09 PM |
#68 |
| -
they've been bullying the kid for a while . . . where does 'impulse' come in? eom |
ellenfl |
Jun-03-09 02:30 PM |
#76 |
| -
The bullies' harassment of the boy was not impulsive. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-03-09 06:20 PM |
#175 |
| -
Up your ass where you pulled out that backhanded attack on other DUers |
Zodiak |
Jun-03-09 02:58 PM |
#129 |
| -
It appears to me that you are the one that is out of control. |
olegramps |
Jun-03-09 04:08 PM |
#168 |
| -
This is independent of the issue |
Zodiak |
Jun-03-09 06:34 PM |
#179 |
| -
They live up my ass? Mon Deu what a horror for them. I just ate lamb shawarma with hot sauce. |
aikoaiko |
Jun-03-09 05:59 PM |
#174 |
| -
Then just state your case. |
Zodiak |
Jun-03-09 06:41 PM |
#180 |
| -
Your position seems to have matured. |
olegramps |
Jun-04-09 10:44 AM |
#185 |
| -
My wife and I discussed the subject at the grocery store |
Zodiak |
Jun-04-09 12:26 PM |
#186 |
| -
Good, give them the full 120 years. |
MrSlayer |
Jun-03-09 02:57 PM |
#126 |
| -
Cool. |
TransitJohn |
Jun-03-09 02:57 PM |
#127 |
| -
hard to feel too much sympathy for them |
WI_DEM |
Jun-03-09 03:46 PM |
#162 |
| -
I would not be surprised if O'Reilly won't be commenting that the kid probably enjoyed it. |
olegramps |
Jun-03-09 04:14 PM |
#169 |
| -
Hey ...they are kind of just doing the same thing our military does. That should make it ok. |
L0oniX |
Jun-03-09 04:56 PM |
#171 |
| -
Why do we have a juvenile justice system? n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jun-03-09 05:05 PM |
#173 |
| -
Hmmmm...30 years sounds about right... |
hayu_lol |
Jun-03-09 06:23 PM |
#176 |
Printer-friendly format
Email this thread to a friend
Bookmark this thread
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore