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Thu May-28-09 11:55 PM
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| 32. I understand that and I don't even PROFESS to understand Obama's thinking on this |
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But your answer still doesn't address Chulanowa's question. And in my opinion, it is a VERY pertinent question.
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| -Why do we have to do this every night on DU |
npk |
May-28-09 08:41 PM |
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This could be epic. |
flvegan |
May-28-09 08:42 PM |
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+ f'n juan |
d_b |
May-28-09 09:02 PM |
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I think you are right. Pass some over will you? |
Javaman |
May-29-09 11:28 AM |
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Thank you. Well said. |
Neecy |
May-28-09 08:42 PM |
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I'm amazed at how many people who claim to support gay rights... |
Forkboy |
May-28-09 08:50 PM |
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That's what I as trying to say. You said it better |
npk |
May-28-09 08:52 PM |
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Hell yeah. |
liberalmuse |
May-28-09 08:50 PM |
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My thoughts on this echo your own. |
Seldona |
May-29-09 08:54 AM |
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5th rec. nt |
ZombieHorde |
May-28-09 08:51 PM |
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It's probably meant in fun. |
sibelian |
May-28-09 09:01 PM |
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Sadists have a different idea of 'fun' than most of us |
Bluenorthwest |
May-29-09 10:01 AM |
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recommended. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 09:17 PM |
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I am staying out of it because I know I cannot possibly |
Lisa0825 |
May-28-09 09:18 PM |
#10 |
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understand the extent of their feelings. |
AlbertCat |
May-29-09 04:56 PM |
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Well... |
Ohio Joe |
May-28-09 09:22 PM |
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KICKED AND RECC'D |
cliffordu |
May-28-09 09:37 PM |
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Everyone has a right to his/her feelings. If you don't share it, you can still understand. |
patrice |
May-28-09 10:11 PM |
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K&R |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-28-09 10:21 PM |
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May-28-09 10:34 PM |
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Obama hasn't done one good thing. He's just like Bush - maybe worse. |
Maru Kitteh |
May-28-09 11:35 PM |
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If you stop after the first sentence, you speak the truth. |
Greyhound |
May-29-09 12:26 AM |
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May-29-09 01:47 AM |
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If you stop after the first sentence, you speak the truth. |
AlbertCat |
May-29-09 05:35 PM |
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Textbook strawman |
kenfrequed |
May-29-09 09:33 AM |
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It was a over-the-top response to a over the top post |
AtheistCrusader |
May-29-09 11:40 AM |
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SHUT UP TERRORIST!!!!!!!!111111 |
TheWatcher |
May-28-09 11:41 PM |
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!!!SERIES!! |
Toasterlad |
May-28-09 11:43 PM |
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Cute. Did you pick that up |
ecstatic |
May-29-09 12:50 AM |
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See this is one reason why there are flame wars--this poster knows this is just flame-bait. |
WI_DEM |
May-29-09 08:53 AM |
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I think there's a basic lack of understanding between people who use this board differently. |
rucky |
May-28-09 10:41 PM |
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I try and do the same |
npk |
May-28-09 10:58 PM |
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Great Post, Rucky |
ProfessorGAC |
May-29-09 11:13 AM |
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I would be bothered less... |
Chulanowa |
May-28-09 10:56 PM |
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I don't get your point. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:05 PM |
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Of course we wish he'd say more |
Chulanowa |
May-28-09 11:21 PM |
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He supports it by his silence |
Missy Vixen |
May-28-09 11:30 PM |
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Oh yes, of course |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:23 AM |
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There's already talk of recalling them/working against their re-election. |
LeftyMom |
May-29-09 09:51 PM |
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Well I can only speak for myself. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:45 PM |
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He doesn't get a pass from me because he hasn't done one single fucking thing for gays |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 12:44 AM |
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Question for you then. |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:05 AM |
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Clinton wouldn't have given a microphone to McClurkin or Warren |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 01:08 AM |
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You may be right |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:30 AM |
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If you go back a few pages you will see the reactions. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 10:23 AM |
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Clinton gave benefits to her State Dept same sex couples. She's already done more for GLBT couples |
riderinthestorm |
May-29-09 10:41 AM |
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The country, and DU as a microcosm, has come a long way imo |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:03 PM |
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sadly... excellent post. I don't think he allows himself to accept that it's not a choice |
Divine Discontent |
May-29-09 10:55 AM |
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Well, there's more to every comment than |
OhioBlue |
May-29-09 09:00 PM |
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Kucinich, andb Gravel for starters..... |
jaundicedi |
May-29-09 04:44 PM |
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Well I'm sure your bitching and moaning won't encourage him. |
liquid diamond |
May-29-09 10:22 PM |
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I Think the Point Is That None Of the Justices Are Black, But Obama Is. |
Toasterlad |
May-28-09 11:48 PM |
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Oh Toasty. |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:57 PM |
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May-29-09 12:25 AM |
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May-29-09 08:50 AM |
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Announcing that you have alerted is also against the rules. |
QC |
May-29-09 08:59 AM |
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No. Read my later posts |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:39 AM |
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I'd Be Happy To. |
Toasterlad |
May-30-09 01:35 PM |
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Damn!! You just laid it all out there, didn't you??? |
Number23 |
May-28-09 11:40 PM |
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Maybe because he promised to use the bully pulpit to help? |
Starry Messenger |
May-28-09 11:48 PM |
#30 |
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I understand that and I don't even PROFESS to understand Obama's thinking on this |
Number23 |
May-28-09 11:55 PM |
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Which question? |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 12:00 AM |
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(sigh) |
Number23 |
May-29-09 12:06 AM |
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I'm sorry. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 12:15 AM |
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Night,night Starry... |
Number23 |
May-29-09 12:22 AM |
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The CA Supremes are so lame! |
AlbertCat |
May-29-09 05:50 PM |
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Because he has his own part in this problem. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:11 AM |
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Could you be a little more vague? |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:43 AM |
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You sound too exhausted to take in anything more specific. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:53 AM |
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I don't understand the point of the pictures (with captions) |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 12:42 AM |
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The captioned picture... |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 12:46 AM |
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Yes, I'm aware of that |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-29-09 12:51 AM |
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No, I'm saying it's why he's catching MORE flak |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:20 AM |
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There's more at stake here than only Prop H8. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 01:26 AM |
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I've pointed to it. And I've been explaining it. |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:39 AM |
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How did you miss the twenty FUCK THE CA SUPREMES! threads |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 01:56 AM |
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Thank you for putting it so well. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 10:18 AM |
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this is ridiculous |
Neecy |
May-29-09 10:17 AM |
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It's not Racism, per se. It's that he's not a superhero. And he's not being MLK. |
Moonwalk |
May-29-09 12:19 PM |
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What you are describing is not racism. No one is expecting Obama |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:26 PM |
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Energy needs to be directed where it will make a difference. We squander it-- |
Moonwalk |
May-29-09 03:35 PM |
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That's easy. I'd put them outside the Arch Diocese here in San Francisco |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 04:14 PM |
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That makes a lot of sense |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:24 PM |
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It doen't make any sense to say that a public promise |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 04:17 PM |
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You may have struck a nerve |
ecstatic |
May-29-09 12:49 AM |
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I'd be a shitty dentist |
Chulanowa |
May-29-09 01:43 AM |
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You think that it is all about prop 8 |
mitchtv |
May-29-09 10:06 PM |
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Even they decided according to what they think is the law |
treestar |
May-29-09 03:22 PM |
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May-28-09 11:12 PM |
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DU's very own form of McCarthyism. |
TahitiNut |
May-28-09 11:33 PM |
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Funny the gender related allegiances |
omega minimo |
May-29-09 12:19 AM |
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The cluelessness of privilege. |
QC |
May-29-09 07:33 AM |
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The GLBT people are tired of sitting in the back of the bus |
Missy Vixen |
May-28-09 11:27 PM |
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oh no you di n't |
omega minimo |
May-29-09 12:19 AM |
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So, if you think I used the incorrect phrase, why don't you help me find a better one? |
Missy Vixen |
May-29-09 12:51 AM |
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Under the bus maybe? |
Lost-in-FL |
May-29-09 12:50 PM |
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Might not be the best expression for the situation |
AtheistCrusader |
May-29-09 11:41 AM |
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But every group has had that happen in the past |
treestar |
May-29-09 03:20 PM |
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Yep... we've just gotta 'wait', right? |
Rhythm |
May-29-09 04:05 PM |
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So, in other words, they can just wait? |
Missy Vixen |
May-30-09 01:09 AM |
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Thank you |
NMMNG |
May-29-09 12:17 AM |
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I wish I had worded that differently |
npk |
May-29-09 12:24 AM |
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You did fine. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 12:25 AM |
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Thanks EFerrari |
npk |
May-29-09 12:49 AM |
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I didn't mean you specifically |
NMMNG |
May-29-09 12:31 AM |
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b/c your OP has 31 recs |
omega minimo |
May-29-09 01:53 AM |
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Thanks. |
Chovexani |
May-29-09 02:05 AM |
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:) |
cboy4 |
May-29-09 02:12 AM |
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Parade here Saturday, |
mahina |
May-29-09 02:59 AM |
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Sounds great! |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:34 AM |
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I object to... |
jimlup |
May-29-09 06:16 AM |
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We need a nightly cynicism wrap-up. |
sofa king |
May-29-09 07:15 AM |
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I think the GLBT critics of POTUS are right. |
Deep13 |
May-29-09 08:58 AM |
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Great post |
spiritual_gunfighter |
May-29-09 09:08 AM |
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because just like in America |
lies and propaganda |
May-29-09 09:55 AM |
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but it just keeps going on, and on, and on, and on, and on... |
Gman |
May-29-09 10:35 AM |
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Your mocking their concerns is part of the problem, Gman. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 10:52 AM |
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So wait, their right to visit their loved on in a hospital is more important than habeus corpus? N/T |
Gorobei |
May-29-09 01:15 PM |
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Thank you, and the defense rests! |
Gman |
May-29-09 01:28 PM |
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No, it doesn't. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 02:19 PM |
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No, it's not hard to do |
Gman |
May-29-09 09:41 PM |
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Then how about just a little simple respect for their concerns? |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 10:14 PM |
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Oh well, at least he's keeping the thread kicked. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 10:19 PM |
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I have respect for their concerns |
Gman |
May-29-09 11:50 PM |
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Again, I'll remind you that I have had my civil equality revoked. Have you been through that? |
Duncan Grant |
May-30-09 12:09 AM |
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Why should it be either/or? |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 02:16 PM |
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Because the either/or fallacy is a great way to dismiss/trivialize people's concerns. |
QC |
May-29-09 03:10 PM |
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Some complain about pet issues, then turn around and promote theirs. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 03:17 PM |
#127 |
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Exactly! |
QC |
May-29-09 03:20 PM |
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There's a difference between promoting your interests... |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 03:39 PM |
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To me, you pour as much villification and harrasment on the gay community here. |
Forkboy |
May-29-09 05:24 PM |
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I believe in the rules here, and I try to remain civil with those who disagree with me. |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 10:38 PM |
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Lesbian and gay people in California have had their civil equality revoked. Obama says nothing. |
Duncan Grant |
May-30-09 12:03 AM |
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I think the time for them to go on and on and on is now. |
riderinthestorm |
May-29-09 11:03 AM |
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"Inconsiderate?" |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 11:15 AM |
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That's what privilege sounds like. n/t |
QC |
May-29-09 11:16 AM |
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Yep. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 11:44 AM |
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Didn't they know how annoying their whining was? Those high pitched voices? |
QC |
May-29-09 11:47 AM |
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Just look at these shameless harridens. |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 12:44 PM |
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How inconsiderate! n/t |
QC |
May-29-09 12:46 PM |
#118 |
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They are doing something, not venting, and they aren't blaming |
treestar |
May-29-09 03:21 PM |
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Check your history...suffragettes certainly picked in front of the |
kiva |
May-30-09 12:35 AM |
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May-29-09 11:21 AM |
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There were some people who felt exactly the same way abut that annoying King guy. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:26 AM |
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What a fierce fighter for freedom you are. Crying here. |
Bluebear |
May-29-09 11:30 AM |
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Doesn't mean people get to make shit up. |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 10:56 AM |
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That same or similar posts were on well knwn sites yesterday |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:02 AM |
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Any post after the video was linked counts as making shit up. |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 11:08 AM |
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"Thanks to GarySF for posting the video in the comments. This actually makes it worse."... |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 11:12 AM |
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Now you're "making shit up" as I specified that I hadn't checked John's blog. |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 11:22 AM |
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AMEN! |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 03:19 PM |
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None of the blogs that put that story up yesterday set out to "make shit up". |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 03:38 PM |
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They automatically leapt at what they perceived as a opportunity to demonize Obama. |
NorthernSpy |
May-29-09 03:44 PM |
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Is your name Barack Obama? |
Starry Messenger |
May-29-09 03:53 PM |
#137 |
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No. When you assign motives like that |
EFerrari |
May-29-09 04:00 PM |
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On the record |
nvme |
May-29-09 11:07 AM |
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KandR. |
Dystopian |
May-29-09 11:26 AM |
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Perhaps we should consider the long-term |
jeff47 |
May-29-09 11:27 AM |
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I think we ought to minimize *every* historically persecuted group's concerns. Daily, if possible. |
Orsino |
May-29-09 11:43 AM |
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What flame wars are you talking about? |
vanbean |
May-29-09 11:44 AM |
#111 |
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Flame wars are started and continued because people love it. |
rhett o rick |
May-29-09 02:09 PM |
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Honestly, I think it's a matter of tone. |
urgk |
May-29-09 04:24 PM |
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Yup, and everybody knows it. |
BlooInBloo |
May-29-09 05:50 PM |
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Sorry. I have seen threads that have only asked why, that have |
ScreamingMeemie |
May-29-09 06:33 PM |
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+1 |
LostinVA |
May-29-09 06:37 PM |
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+2 |
HarukaTheTrophyWife |
May-30-09 12:34 AM |
#166 |
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+3 n/t |
bluedawg12 |
May-30-09 02:33 AM |
#169 |
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Exactly. For Every Post Overflowing With Venom for Obama, Congress, et al... |
Toasterlad |
May-30-09 01:50 PM |
#173 |
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Very true. And there's something very ugly about privileged people complaining about the "tone" |
QC |
May-30-09 02:05 PM |
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Very nice post. Thanks for that. |
Number23 |
May-30-09 04:43 AM |
#170 |
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indeed kr |
ooglymoogly |
May-29-09 04:34 PM |
#143 |
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Proud to give this thread its 60th recommendation. |
DutchLiberal |
May-29-09 07:29 PM |
#152 |
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There is nothing funny about being a second class citizen.. |
and-justice-for-all |
May-29-09 07:33 PM |
#153 |
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I'm glad I've missed it. |
JNelson6563 |
May-29-09 08:05 PM |
#154 |
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There is a contingent of people here who never miss a chance to criticize uppity gay people. |
Lyric |
May-30-09 01:46 PM |
#172 |
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Thanks for this |
sniffa |
May-30-09 04:00 PM |
#175 |
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