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Irreverend IX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 11:44 AM
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38. An AR-15 is just fine for hunting small creatures...
Its light weight, high accuracy, superior ergonomics and weather resistance make it better for hunting prairie dogs and similar creatures that most traditional-style rifles. It shouldn't be used to hunt larger game like deer because it's not powerful enough. But you can use an AR-10 for those purposes.

And it is not the "same thing, different decade" as a Thompson or BAR. The original Thompson and BAR are fully automatic, and civilian-legal AR-15s are semiautomatic. You do understand the difference, right? Full-auto civilian weapons are extremely rare, expensive and tightly regulated. And there are plenty of semiautomatic Thompsons and BARs in civilian hands.

And why do these rifles concern you when they're used in a vanishingly small fraction of gun crimes? Rifles of all kinds, from semiautos to bolt-actions, are used in less than 3% of yearly US homicides. More people are killed with fists and feet each year. By far the most popular crime guns are small, cheap handguns that can easily be tossed in the river and replaced after use.
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  -A glance at US mass shootings in recent years Rider Haggard  Mar-13-09 01:36 AM   #0 
  - and they're coming more often now...  villager   Mar-13-09 01:39 AM   #1 
  - You noticed that too?  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 01:41 AM   #2 
     - They have become almost fashionable.  Tim01   Mar-13-09 11:52 AM   #39 
        - For some, wearing safety pins is fashionable too.  Deja Q   Mar-14-09 07:53 AM   #102 
           - Given that the bullies and bastards are mostly the ones in charge..  Fumesucker   Mar-15-09 11:03 AM   #106 
  - A plea for common sense?  Hanse   Mar-13-09 01:41 AM   #3 
  - We don't have to piss on the Constitution to enforce common sense rules  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 01:59 AM   #6 
  - *cough*...a few???!!!  brentspeak   Mar-13-09 02:03 AM   #7 
  - All incredibly rare.  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:05 AM   #8 
  - .  brentspeak   Mar-13-09 02:06 AM   #9 
  - Then pray tell, why are so many worried about their right to carry for self defense?  Rider Haggard   Mar-13-09 02:08 AM   #10 
  - I don't believe there is a right to carry.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 02:12 AM   #13 
  - Oh, they're stupid cowards too.  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:18 AM   #16 
  - That's hyperbole  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 02:12 AM   #14 
  - You know my problem with people like you  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 02:23 AM   #17 
     - That we're functionally literate?  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:36 AM   #18 
     - I have read it and you are wrong  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 02:47 AM   #20 
        - The Supreme Court disagrees.  Hanse   Mar-13-09 02:54 AM   #22 
           - Yeah the supreme court disagrees... whatever  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 03:29 AM   #27 
              - An AR-15 is just fine for hunting small creatures...  Irreverend IX   Mar-13-09 11:44 AM   #38 
              - Are You Claiming...  DrCory   Mar-13-09 06:34 PM   #85 
                 - There are decisions one court has made that have been overturned  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 06:38 PM   #87 
                 - What Makes You Think...  DrCory   Mar-14-09 06:21 AM   #99 
                 - Bush v. Gore..  Fumesucker   Mar-15-09 11:06 AM   #107 
     - "fully automatic weapons meant for hunting other humans, read assault rifles, machine guns"  billyoc   Mar-13-09 02:51 AM   #21 
     - No they are not and you know better  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 03:26 AM   #25 
        - the '94 AWB did not affect full-auto weapons ... it only banned certain semi-auto's  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 12:03 PM   #41 
        - They've been illegal since the '30s.  billyoc   Mar-13-09 01:08 PM   #44 
        - You're pretty vocal about a subject you know absolutely nothing about.  tangent90   Mar-13-09 02:45 PM   #63 
        - Yeah you are right, a subject I actually know quite a bit about  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 06:25 PM   #84 
           - You don't even know the difference between an "automatic" and an "assault"  tangent90   Mar-13-09 06:39 PM   #88 
              - Yes I do.. next  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 06:49 PM   #89 
                 - Yeah, you're a real expert. How about staying the fuck out of my Constitutional rights?  tangent90   Mar-13-09 06:52 PM   #91 
                 - Slowly once again  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 07:09 PM   #92 
                    - "chiefly readying it"??????? What exactly are you smoking?  tangent90   Mar-13-09 07:43 PM   #93 
                    - Factoid most gun enthusiasts confuse gun control with gun  nadinbrzezinski   Mar-13-09 07:53 PM   #95 
                    - Any "Round"  DrCory   Mar-14-09 06:30 AM   #100 
                    - Actually, .22 caliber rounds (5.56 included) are prohibited from use on deer in many states.  Edweird   Mar-15-09 05:46 PM   #114 
                 - Quite Often Said And Contested...  DrCory   Mar-14-09 07:41 AM   #101 
        - Automatic weapons are very highly regulated and were not covered under the AWB.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 04:32 PM   #82 
     - The most popular civilian target rifles and defensive carbines in U.S. homes  benEzra   Mar-13-09 08:09 AM   #32 
     - I absolutely agree with these distinctions, Nadin...  villager   Mar-13-09 11:10 AM   #35 
     - "NRA programming"? Nope. It's critical thinking, logic, and experience. Reading comprehension helps,  Edweird   Mar-13-09 01:41 PM   #51 
        - Like I said: NRA Programming....  villager   Mar-13-09 02:00 PM   #52 
           - Like I said: reading comprehension.  Edweird   Mar-13-09 02:09 PM   #54 
              - Why not speak --specifically -- to Nadin's points, as I was  villager   Mar-13-09 02:44 PM   #62 
                 - Sure, I'll break it down slowly for you.  Edweird   Mar-13-09 03:10 PM   #69 
                    - Irrelevant that America has a precedent of gun control laws?  villager   Mar-13-09 03:13 PM   #72 
                       - I was referring to her historical gun ownership claim  Edweird   Mar-13-09 03:18 PM   #74 
                          - You see? We stick to topic, and actual civility threatens to break out between us!  villager   Mar-13-09 03:32 PM   #78 
                             - The lack of civility about this and certain other issues really bothers me.  Edweird   Mar-13-09 04:07 PM   #81 
     - "in today's terms, the armed forces." Since when? Just because you WISH it  Edweird   Mar-13-09 01:32 PM   #48 
     - It sounds like you think the line was drawn correctly in 1934, with the National Firearms Act  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:08 PM   #68 
  - Westroads Mall was included  hfojvt   Mar-13-09 03:27 AM   #26 
     - to answer my own question about the gap  hfojvt   Mar-13-09 03:41 AM   #30 
        - then there was going postal  hfojvt   Mar-13-09 04:18 AM   #31 
           - Thanks for listing those other ones  brentspeak   Mar-13-09 05:14 PM   #83 
  - Exactly. nt  anonymous171   Mar-13-09 01:32 PM   #49 
  - Thom Hartmann made an interesting observation  lapfog_1   Mar-13-09 01:45 AM   #4 
  - They are on the drugs because they're nuts. Did they do it because they are nuts or due to the drug?  Freddie Stubbs   Mar-13-09 02:02 PM   #53 
  - What a shame.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 01:47 AM   #5 
  - Why do we still let people have those things?  greenkal   Mar-13-09 02:09 AM   #11 
  - The Constitution I believe.  Fire_Medic_Dave   Mar-13-09 02:10 AM   #12 
  - It would likely mean repealing the 2nd Amendment, a difficult proposition at best.  Selatius   Mar-13-09 02:43 AM   #19 
  - Difficult, more like impossible  LiberalPersona   Mar-13-09 03:25 AM   #24 
     - That's why I mentioned the US disintegrating like the USSR.  Selatius   Mar-13-09 03:35 AM   #28 
  - Because we live in a country with a constitution  HarukaTheTrophyWife   Mar-13-09 08:17 AM   #34 
  - lol  chrisa   Mar-13-09 11:19 AM   #37 
  - you're welcome to try  Dukkha   Mar-13-09 12:07 PM   #43 
  - Thanks for confirming they're violent thugs!  greenkal   Mar-13-09 01:16 PM   #45 
     - People who have no problem with police barging into everyone's house  tangent90   Mar-13-09 02:47 PM   #65 
  - I know. The Police are always trustworthy, unless they are brutalizing young people or minorities.  anonymous171   Mar-13-09 01:36 PM   #50 
  - We have a thing called the Fourth Amendment that prohibits police from going door to door  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:16 PM   #73 
  - Because they're SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE (Who is this "we" crap?)  Tejas   Mar-15-09 11:28 AM   #108 
  - I'm sure some would think confiscating every gun in the country would be common sense.  Incitatus   Mar-13-09 02:13 AM   #15 
  - There appears to have been a lull of 22 years from 1976 to 1998.  Lone_Star_Dem   Mar-13-09 03:05 AM   #23 
  - Here's a partial list of workplace shootings dating back to 1986  Art_from_Ark   Mar-13-09 03:38 AM   #29 
  - What "common sense" would you advocate?  benEzra   Mar-13-09 08:12 AM   #33 
  - I really don't care what type of gun anyone owns  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 06:37 PM   #86 
  - OMG! Ban guns!  chrisa   Mar-13-09 11:15 AM   #36 
  - I seriously want to know the political leanings of most of these people...  LeftinOH   Mar-13-09 12:01 PM   #40 
  - I think politics has little to do with it  Believing Is Art   Mar-13-09 02:26 PM   # 
  - Interestingly, nearly all of those were in 'gun-free-zones'  tangent90   Mar-13-09 12:05 PM   #42 
  - 1966 is recent now?  Zywiec   Mar-13-09 01:19 PM   #46 
  - USA Number One!  Arugula Latte   Mar-13-09 01:23 PM   #47 
  - The kid in Germany yesterday is giving us a run for the title.  Noodleboy13   Mar-13-09 02:22 PM   #55 
  - These things happen all over the world, and always have  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 02:28 PM   #57 
     - In most developed countries these types of sprees are shockingly rare.  Arugula Latte   Mar-13-09 02:47 PM   #64 
     - Since a European-style killing spree usually kills millions, I'll take that label. n/t  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 02:50 PM   #67 
     - They sure seem to be happening a lot for something that is shockingly rare  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:24 PM   #76 
        - With the exception of Germany, most countries you cite have one of these or so in a long time period  Arugula Latte   Mar-14-09 12:22 PM   #103 
           - The USA also has a lot more people than any of those countries  slackmaster   Mar-15-09 10:59 AM   #105 
           - US population is over 300 million  Bluenorthwest   Mar-15-09 11:33 AM   #109 
     - The Port Authur killings led to MASSIVE gun control laws in Australia  Number23   Mar-13-09 07:48 PM   #94 
  - I've only been keeping track on the NRA page ...  ColbertWatcher   Mar-13-09 02:26 PM   #56 
  - Simple Qs: How many guns are enough for one person to own? Are some guns too deadly to own?  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 02:32 PM   #58 
  - How many speeches are enough for one person to give? Is some speech too deadly  tangent90   Mar-13-09 02:41 PM   #61 
  - How Ridiculous? Free Speech Doesn't Kill People... Guns Do ...  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 03:41 PM   #79 
     - Slackmaster answered your question, and I agree with slackmaster.  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 03:58 PM   #80 
     - "if he owned 500 guns and only 10,000 rounds of ammo, I might advise him that he needs more ammo."  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 09:06 PM   #97 
        - heck yeah. that's only 20 rds per firearm. that'd be pretty stupid.  FudaFuda   Mar-13-09 09:33 PM   #98 
     - I keep forgetting about the epidemic of guns leaping from their holsters and  tangent90   Mar-13-09 06:50 PM   #90 
        - It's apparent from your attempt to conflate 2nd Amend rights with 1st Amend rights you're NRA taught  Blackhatjack   Mar-13-09 08:57 PM   #96 
  - A strict limit on types of guns was set in 1934  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:11 PM   #71 
  - "too deadly"?  Tejas   Mar-15-09 11:50 AM   #112 
  - I kept wondering what in the hell some people ...  butterfly77   Mar-13-09 02:37 PM   #59 
  - They left out a woman walked into a Kmart and shot a bunch of people in St. Johns, Indiana  NNN0LHI   Mar-13-09 02:39 PM   #60 
  - well REGULATED Militia  fascisthunter   Mar-13-09 02:47 PM   #66 
  - A militia is a group of people  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:10 PM   #70 
  - The break between 2001 and 2005  treestar   Mar-13-09 03:19 PM   #75 
  - I think the UTA tower shooting doesn't belong on the list either  slackmaster   Mar-13-09 03:26 PM   #77 
  - This is a very old phenomenon. It's the basis for the word "Amok."  mainer   Mar-14-09 12:26 PM   #104 
  - 15 students killed in Germany last week. Gunman shot himself.  WillieW   Mar-15-09 11:37 AM   #110 
  - Don't Assault Rifles make America Safer, and a more polite society?  TWiley   Mar-15-09 11:42 AM   #111 
     - Scariest guns  Tejas   Mar-15-09 11:53 AM   #113 

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