Reply #219: not relevant

[Two Americas]

I will repost what I said elsewhere on the thread about this (I am surprised that there is any controversy about this in 2008, to be honest.)

30 years ago, in a relatively lower level management job, we would get fired for this.

Now, we could have said "hey we are just having fun and why are people making a big deal about it?"

Instead we took this attitude - we are supportive of women advancing in this business, committed to their success, and these "sex" jokes are demeaning and intimidating, intended to signal women that they are inferior and had better know their place, and we are not going to tolerate that environment here."

No drama. No upset. Done deal. It is only right wingers who complain that men, or white men, are somehow being "persecuted by the PC police."

We went on to create the strongest division in the company, and were the first in the country in our field to hire and promote women, people of color and GLBT people.

No drama. It is about what is morally right, and also about what works.