Reply #69: It was a red herring, but it worked because of how things are done

[nadinbrzezinski]

and people are not connecting some facts

the preacher has that authority as granted by the state, but here is the logic that unfortunately is at work.

I go down to city hall,

I get my license from them... (who is them is nebulous to some folks even today) and then I take it to the church... and I am not married until the preacher, padre, what have you, performs that ceremony inside a religious temple.

Now in countries where this is not the case, will use Mexico, familiar with the process

I go down to city hall, engage the Family Judge, fill forms and pay fees, so far the same, get license and then the Judge performs a marriage ceremony. I take that document down to the Padre and then and only then can that padre bless my marriage within the church... but the padre has no authority to witness that certificate... and boy they fought against that...

But to me the fact that there is this extra step where a member of the state performs this short circuits how a lot of people think about marriage and the role of the church... mind you, this thinking is misguided, but it does.

There were other red herrings, some involving the Massachussets teaches kids about homosexuality (They don't), and my other all time favorite, involving the church... a couple of teachers in of course San Fran, took the kids to witness ther Lesbian marriage... at the local church... oh the kids,

Now the kids learning about homosexuality goes back to Hawaii back in the 1980s and the No on 8 should have been prepared for that

I am critical of them since they were on the defensive and let the other side set the debate, instead of going on the offensive and connecting dots that removing rights means we can remove somebody else's rights, but that is another rant

:-)