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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 08:46 PM
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24. Cresent City Kid
Cresent City Kid

At this point in my life, I would find a Partnership, the most important for a gay couple. What come in the future I do not know.. Maybe in a decade or two times I would accept the idea of a gay couple get a regular, traditional marriage as I would have it, when I marriage my self... But at this point in my life I have to say, that an registered partnership, is as far as I can possible stretch it.. Are I am a bad person because I just can't accept that same sex partners get an traditional marriage?.. i do not know..I hope I am not an bad people.. But I would rather take it slowly, and got there in time, than to rush it and get a backlash.. It is not that long ago, the whole concept of gay was illegal if most country in the West.. Thankfully we have coming a far way longer into the future.. 30-35 year ago, it was an illness to be gay in my country. You could be send to a mental institution if you was openly gay.. Thankfully that is not the case today.. Thankfully we as humans have evolved somehow..

I do not care if two grown up people decide to live and to care with each other, even if they are same sex. And if they want to act as man and wife that is ok for my.. It should be their legal right to do it. And an Partnership would be good enough. We can have a sermon, where they promise to care for each other.. Love each other - and when they become old, in heritage each other.. Tis is something I have not a objection about. What two grown up, consenting people are doing behding closed door, in their bedrom, is something I, am every one else have no interst in.. Even if it against what we belive in... If that make us a sinner, then I am a sinner.. If that I have some objection against it, then I maybe is a sinner.. I have just to hope, that my action are not that bad, and that when my time would came are in the position to say, that I was trying to live my life as best I could posible do. And that I have not made to mutch error in my life.. That is my hope, in the end..

What I have a objection about, is the Fraze MARRIAGE. I still believe that to be an institution, made by man and woman, and also an holy institution.. And not to be played with.. A Partnership, between same sex couple I have no worry about. They can after the sermon, claim to be married but the Symbol of Marriage I still believe is an institution who are somewhat for the moment out of reach for gay couple.. yes I am maybe out of my league here. I am maybe full of sin here.. But I have to say, that is what I feel about it..

The important for the moment, is to make accept that gay people can get an partnership, and that same sex couple can be treated as equal in the aye of the law.. In to many country gay couple is still treated as second class people who are been harassed and treated bad, by the same folks who claim to be christians.. And that is some hing I feel very sorry about by the way...


Diclotican

Sorry my bad english, not my native language
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  -Mormon temples pass out Yes on 8 signs today - imposing its religion on everybody again msongs  Oct-12-08 04:46 PM   #0 
  - I hope that church loses its tax exempt status. Please report them.  tblue   Oct-12-08 04:47 PM   #1 
  - they are allowed to do this, only human candidates are restricted from direct promotion. nt  msongs   Oct-12-08 04:54 PM   #2 
     - Well, maybe that needs to change  KamaAina   Oct-13-08 03:04 PM   #72 
  - Dum..Dum..Dum...  SidDithers   Oct-12-08 04:58 PM   #3 
  - Californians really need to wake up  SoCalNative   Oct-12-08 05:01 PM   #4 
  - There needs to be more emphasis on the out-of-state funding on Prop 8.  LeftyMom   Oct-12-08 05:14 PM   #6 
  - I agree, LeftyMom.  Maat   Oct-13-08 01:30 AM   #30 
  - SoCalNative  Diclotican   Oct-12-08 05:37 PM   #7 
     - Diclotican, I love ya, BUT...  jmowreader   Oct-12-08 06:40 PM   #15 
        - jmowreader  Diclotican   Oct-12-08 07:03 PM   #17 
  - Mormans for the "traditional" definition of marriage. How freaking ironic  BR_Parkway   Oct-12-08 05:14 PM   #5 
  - BR_Parkway  Diclotican   Oct-12-08 05:54 PM   #12 
  - What's the difference between "marriage" and "partnership"?  Cresent City Kid   Oct-12-08 07:32 PM   #18 
     - Cresent City Kid  Diclotican   Oct-12-08 08:46 PM   #24 
        - Nobody's a "bad person" for their beliefs  Cresent City Kid   Oct-12-08 09:11 PM   #27 
           - Cresent City Kid  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 04:01 AM   #45 
              - Diclotican  awoke_in_2003   Oct-14-08 12:21 AM   #97 
  - Great point . . . !!!!  defendandprotect   Oct-12-08 08:11 PM   #19 
  - BR_Parkway  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 04:06 AM   #46 
  - What did you think religion is for anyway?  kenny blankenship   Oct-12-08 05:38 PM   #8 
  - No one wants to be miserable alone . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-12-08 08:12 PM   #20 
  - msongs  Diclotican   Oct-12-08 05:49 PM   #9 
  - The Catholic church I take my elderly parents to every weekend  LibDemAlways   Oct-12-08 05:52 PM   #10 
  - Well, the booing should start from the pews . . . !!!  defendandprotect   Oct-12-08 08:13 PM   #21 
  - So, when Quakers and Methodists pass out...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-12-08 05:53 PM   #11 
  - Does that happen?  Book Lover   Oct-12-08 06:10 PM   #14 
  - Well, this Unitarian has been passing them out to receptive people wanting information.  Maat   Oct-13-08 02:15 AM   #41 
  - Actually,  awoke_in_2003   Oct-14-08 12:26 AM   #98 
  - DUPE  awoke_in_2003   Oct-14-08 12:28 AM   #99 
  - DUPE. nt  awoke_in_2003   Oct-14-08 12:29 AM   #100 
  - DUPE. nt  awoke_in_2003   Oct-14-08 12:29 AM   #101 
  - Radical Dominionists have infiltrated other churches  glinda   Oct-12-08 06:48 PM   #16 
  - That may be, but...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-13-08 07:07 AM   #48 
  - Preaching hatred for Jews or gays from the Bible is different from  defendandprotect   Oct-12-08 08:17 PM   #22 
  - It's not that simple...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-13-08 07:30 AM   #49 
     - Other "entities" aren't religions . . . and subject to Separation of Church & State . . .  defendandprotect   Oct-13-08 12:01 PM   #53 
        - You're dead wrong about that-- the Constitution does not...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-13-08 12:39 PM   #55 
           - To bar the STATE from establishing any religion . . . is to put up a wall of protection  defendandprotect   Oct-13-08 01:19 PM   #58 
              - Hard to tell the difference between you and a Freeper  FreakinDJ   Oct-13-08 11:56 PM   #96 
  - Not so.  Maat   Oct-13-08 01:39 AM   #32 
  - I fully understand what you are saying...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-13-08 08:12 AM   #50 
     - I hear what you are saying.  Maat   Oct-13-08 02:36 PM   #70 
  - As I was brutally reminded of this morning by my fellow DUers...  SidneyCarton   Oct-13-08 04:48 PM   #91 
     - I regularly thank my God that...  TreasonousBastard   Oct-13-08 06:47 PM   #95 
  - Prop 8 is pure fucking evil.  EOO   Oct-12-08 06:00 PM   #13 
  - Blame Mormoms For Marijuana Being Illegal  Ghost in the Machine   Oct-12-08 08:29 PM   #23 
  - Ghost in the Machine  Diclotican   Oct-12-08 08:54 PM   #26 
     - I understand that English isn't your first language but please try to comprehend what you're reading  Ghost in the Machine   Oct-12-08 10:11 PM   #28 
     - Ghost in the Machine  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 05:36 AM   #47 
        - #1, Marijuana is NOT physically addictive, so no one is addicted to it..  Ghost in the Machine   Oct-13-08 10:41 AM   #52 
        - Ghost in the Machine  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 01:46 PM   #62 
           - ...  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 02:15 PM   #66 
              - ummmmmm....  Ghost in the Machine   Oct-13-08 02:26 PM   #67 
              - Argument from authority.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 02:30 PM   #68 
              - No, argument from experience....  Ghost in the Machine   Oct-13-08 03:05 PM   #73 
                 - Well, hell.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 03:05 PM   #74 
                    - No, that's PCP, dude...  Ghost in the Machine   Oct-13-08 03:17 PM   #75 
              - Ghost in the Machine  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 03:29 PM   #77 
              - Bornaginhooligan  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 03:21 PM   #76 
                 - Your horrible English is something I don't care about.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 03:41 PM   #81 
                    - Bornaginhooligan  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 03:56 PM   #84 
                       - Hey now.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 04:04 PM   #85 
                          - ornaginhooligan  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 04:21 PM   #87 
                             - Like I said, I'm not bragging.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 04:29 PM   #89 
                                - Bornaginhooligan  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 04:37 PM   #90 
                                   - Uh, people have published that it's not addictive.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 04:49 PM   #92 
        - Pff.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 02:09 PM   #64 
           - Bornaginhooligan  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 03:39 PM   #79 
              - There's no scientific evidence marijuana is addictive.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 03:50 PM   #82 
                 - Bornaginhooligan  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 04:09 PM   #86 
                    - You're still failing to answer the question.  Bornaginhooligan   Oct-13-08 04:25 PM   #88 
     - Complete fucking horseshit. My DOCTORS know more than you.  Zhade   Oct-12-08 10:58 PM   #29 
        - Zhade  Diclotican   Oct-13-08 03:51 AM   #44 
        - Apparently...  spoony   Oct-13-08 08:14 AM   #51 
  - TAX the shit out of them. n/t  Realityhack   Oct-12-08 08:52 PM   #25 
  - On second thought...  Iggo   Oct-13-08 01:32 AM   #31 
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  - The dreaded signs showed up yesterday.  Maat   Oct-13-08 01:50 AM   #35 
     - My point was, it was the churches that passed them out. Not the temples.  Herdin_Cats   Oct-13-08 01:53 AM   #36 
        - Ah, I see.  Maat   Oct-13-08 02:13 AM   #40 
           - I wish I could get away with telling them to get the hell off my property.  Herdin_Cats   Oct-13-08 02:20 AM   #42 
              - Uh-oh ...  Maat   Oct-13-08 12:05 PM   #54 
  - I wish we could have the law changed so that churches can't campaign on ballot initiatives  Herdin_Cats   Oct-13-08 01:47 AM   #34 
  - I thought they could not campaign already  blount   Oct-13-08 01:56 AM   #37 
     - They can't campaign for candidates for office, but, unfortunately, they can campaign for  Herdin_Cats   Oct-13-08 01:59 AM   #38 
  - It is hard to report them to the IRS without specifics...  and-justice-for-all   Oct-13-08 02:00 AM   #39 
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  - Church of hate.  Orsino   Oct-13-08 12:49 PM   #56 
  - Prop 8 is disgusting!  scorpiogirl   Oct-13-08 01:09 PM   #57 
  - Our neighborhood Christian (sic) Church...  Juniperx   Oct-13-08 01:23 PM   #59 
  - Call the IRS - Why are they tax exempt?  Ioo   Oct-13-08 01:26 PM   #60 
  - Ritualistic religions tend to be strongly opposed to human rights.  TexasObserver   Oct-13-08 01:28 PM   #61 
  - Ah yes, the fucking "we don't interfere in politics" mormons strike again.  Raster   Oct-13-08 02:03 PM   #63 
  - Christians, Jews, Hindus & Muslims are anti-Gay,  Disturbed   Oct-13-08 02:13 PM   #65 
  - Are you just asking or looking for a good intro for a homophobic rant?  Raster   Oct-13-08 03:00 PM   #71 
  - Hindus and Homosexuality  Raster   Oct-13-08 03:32 PM   #78 
  - Homosexuality and Christianity  Raster   Oct-13-08 03:40 PM   #80 
  - So, I suppose we won't be expecting you at Sacrament Meeting this Sunday?  SidneyCarton   Oct-13-08 04:50 PM   #93 
     - Nope, nor at Relief Society on Wednesday.  Raster   Oct-13-08 06:02 PM   #94 
  - Tax the Mormons  slackmaster   Oct-13-08 02:31 PM   #69 
  - It really must be time to start taxing churches. nt  Hekate   Oct-13-08 03:51 PM   #83 
  - And you in turn...  Cid_B   Oct-14-08 12:36 AM   #102 
  - Religions have NO PLACE INTERFERING in secular matters. NONE!  Raster   Oct-14-08 06:17 PM   #103 
  - If you belong to hate mongering orgranization, expect others to disdain you.  TexasObserver   Oct-14-08 06:27 PM   #105 
  - When religions go after gays, such religions shouldn't complain when their bigotry is discussed.  TexasObserver   Oct-14-08 06:24 PM   #104 
 

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