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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:26 AM
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4. The illusion must be maintained to provide "plausible deniability",
should they decide to steal this one too.

OTOH I'm not sure they want to be in the White House this term, the next President is going to face a shit storm of a magnitude not seen in 75 - 80 years, maybe even worse, and is going to get the credit or the blame.

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  -3 Leading Political Scientists Say U.S. Media Presentation Of Election As Toss-Up Is Myth Hissyspit  Jul-28-08 12:12 AM   #0 
  - agrees....  BlooInBloo   Jul-28-08 12:15 AM   #1 
  - it is really pitiful  G_j   Jul-28-08 12:19 AM   #2 
  - Another example of...  jeff30997   Jul-28-08 12:21 AM   #3 
  - The illusion must be maintained to provide "plausible deniability",  greyhound1966   Jul-28-08 12:26 AM   #4 
  - If they steal yet ANOTHER election  Cheap_Trick   Jul-28-08 12:55 AM   #10 
  - It is vital if people are to believe fraudulent results. n-t  Toucano   Jul-28-08 08:25 AM   #32 
  - Well you know they'd get blame, not credit,  CrispyQGirl   Jul-28-08 10:59 AM   #38 
  - It ain't over until the Diebold Programmers sing  Supersedeas   Jul-28-08 11:17 AM   #43 
  - But how can they steal the election if it isn't a close call?  Kaleko   Jul-28-08 12:28 AM   #5 
  - That's it in a nutshell. n/t  intheflow   Jul-28-08 01:21 AM   #11 
  - That IS it in a nutshell.  calimary   Jul-28-08 01:46 AM   #12 
     - People just have to BELIEVE it's close..  SoCalDem   Jul-28-08 06:21 AM   #20 
     - I don't even think belief is required anymore.  glitch   Jul-28-08 04:46 PM   #52 
     - false assumption  Two Americas   Jul-28-08 04:26 PM   #50 
  - In Florida, the GOP steals elections all the time that were not "close"!  Sancho   Jul-28-08 06:47 AM   #23 
  - If that was done, no Republican would ever get "elected." And they don't want that. nt  valerief   Jul-28-08 07:32 AM   #25 
  - If you want to know how, check out the OH referendum in 05.  Stevepol   Jul-28-08 07:54 AM   #27 
  - check your facts  OnTheOtherHand   Jul-28-08 11:16 AM   #42 
  - Want to steal a landslide election? Ask the guys in Mexico how they did it.  crikkett   Jul-28-08 09:45 AM   #35 
  - It doesn't have to be anywhere near close. They just have to *say* it's close.  Marr   Jul-28-08 11:10 AM   #40 
  - And repeat the fiction that it is close over and over and over again...  Kaleko   Jul-28-08 03:48 PM   #49 
  - I have two words for you. Max. Cleland. nt  tbyg52   Jul-28-08 03:22 PM   #45 
  - Excellent point.  quantessd   Jul-28-08 03:29 PM   #48 
  - "Senator Obama's margin has been in the 4-6 point range..."  DJ13   Jul-28-08 12:28 AM   #6 
  - More like 8-12 points. Here's their strategy: gas prices will fall, Surge ends, "Happy days are  leveymg   Jul-28-08 02:29 PM   #44 
  - Obama vs McLame, No Contest. Obama vs. the Mighty Slime Machine, A Cliffhanger!  AndyTiedye   Jul-28-08 12:29 AM   #7 
  - The US media stopped telling the truth long ago, and it's only gotten  SeattleGirl   Jul-28-08 12:30 AM   #8 
  - A great way to suppress the vote for Obama is tell people it's a landslide. (Fucking stupid.)  TahitiNut   Jul-28-08 12:32 AM   #9 
  - Excellent point.  trashcanistanista   Jul-28-08 01:59 AM   #13 
  - What Nut Said!  ProfessorGAC   Jul-28-08 08:25 AM   #31 
  - I don't know that that's true. I think that when a race is reported as being  Raskolnik   Jul-28-08 05:12 PM   #55 
  - All the campaigning and polling don't matter much since the results are  diva77   Jul-28-08 02:02 AM   #14 
  - Diebold et. al. can only pull their BS when the election is colse enough to steal.  Odin2005   Jul-28-08 08:10 AM   #30 
     - I used to believe that. I no longer do. I believe that no matter what the odds  diva77   Jul-28-08 11:12 AM   #41 
     - Please see:  tbyg52   Jul-28-08 03:24 PM   #46 
     - to whom?  Two Americas   Jul-28-08 04:31 PM   #51 
  - I hope this is true, CNN et. al. still think they control things n/t  AntiFascist   Jul-28-08 04:19 AM   #15 
  - The TV Corp Media is doing this for ratings.  Disturbed   Jul-28-08 04:27 AM   #16 
     - I fear that some of the super-wealthy may be trying to control the outcome...  AntiFascist   Jul-28-08 04:31 AM   #17 
     - That's pretty much my opinion on this, too.  Herdin_Cats   Jul-28-08 04:43 AM   #19 
        - case in point.... during the primary race  salin   Jul-28-08 06:55 AM   #24 
  - of course it is a myth  notadmblnd   Jul-28-08 04:32 AM   #18 
  - Duh!  malaise   Jul-28-08 06:24 AM   #21 
  - The race must be reported as close, so no one will be surprised when it is hacked!  Sancho   Jul-28-08 06:42 AM   #22 
  - "don't be surprised if McCain "wins""  awoke_in_2003   Jul-28-08 10:15 AM   #36 
  - Heh  kitfalbo   Jul-28-08 07:39 AM   #26 
  - it borders on the criminal...these people (media) have the public trust and it's being abused  spanone   Jul-28-08 08:00 AM   #28 
  - It's all about the advertisement money.  Odin2005   Jul-28-08 08:05 AM   #29 
  - I Concur Completely  ProfessorGAC   Jul-28-08 08:26 AM   #33 
     - Yep, there is no need to think up conspiracies when the cause is the flaws of Capitalism.  Odin2005   Jul-28-08 07:41 PM   #56 
  - Bush didn't win Ohio, NM, NC or Colorado. RNC stole those states and DNC let them do it.  blm   Jul-28-08 09:28 AM   #34 
  - the "dead horse" analogy is pretty funny  Bill McBlueState   Jul-28-08 10:24 AM   #37 
  - I was in Mexico for the last election, and Costa Rica when the CAFTA vote happened.  Marr   Jul-28-08 11:06 AM   #39 
  - If it's not close they can't steal it! MIHOP  Joanne98   Jul-28-08 03:25 PM   #47 
  - Not really...if it doesn't APPEAR to be close, they will have a little more trouble stealing it.  fl410   Jul-28-08 04:52 PM   #53 
  - In July, every election is a toss-up.  Donald Ian Rankin   Jul-28-08 05:04 PM   #54 

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