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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 11:15 AM
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20. Nope, I hope he goes down however he goes down--I am "win at all costs" now.
Fuck him.
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  -If you didn't like the Swiftboating of Kerry, don't do it to McCain jbane  Jul-23-08 11:02 AM   #0 
  - This should be good.  Midlodemocrat   Jul-23-08 11:04 AM   #1 
  - Scootch over a bit!  KitchenWitch   Jul-23-08 12:44 PM   #73 
  - Very Good...  jbane   Jul-23-08 12:45 PM   #74 
  - Yup. There are a lot of us here at DU.  Midlodemocrat   Jul-23-08 12:50 PM   #77 
  - but do you agree with what the OP said?  book_worm   Jul-23-08 02:50 PM   #114 
  - Thank you.  Richardo   Jul-23-08 11:04 AM   #2 
  - No... military service should *not* be off limits.  gcomeau   Jul-23-08 11:06 AM   #6 
  - 'legitimate' is the key word  Richardo   Jul-23-08 11:08 AM   #8 
  - Agree  Allyoop   Jul-23-08 02:20 PM   #95 
  - Negative...McCain is making his military service the center of his campaign  Squatch   Jul-23-08 11:17 AM   #23 
     - Hm.....where did we hear that before?!?!?  HardWorkingDem   Jul-23-08 11:28 AM   #32 
     - I don't know where the hell you've heard that before.  Squatch   Jul-23-08 11:33 AM   #35 
        - How McCain...  HardWorkingDem   Jul-23-08 11:43 AM   #46 
     - Absolutely. He was unlike Kerry. McCain was a lousy service member.  TexasObserver   Jul-23-08 12:10 PM   #59 
  - IBTL.  hisownpetard   Jul-23-08 11:04 AM   #3 
  - I don't think we have to  liberal N proud   Jul-23-08 11:04 AM   #4 
  - Please provide examples of such swiftboating, oh long time listener.  Mayberry Machiavelli   Jul-23-08 11:06 AM   #5 
  - if it's off limits, then why does he keep bringing it up?  libnnc   Jul-23-08 11:07 AM   #7 
  - You're right - so if you want to criticize McCain's service stop complaining about Kerry's treatment  Richardo   Jul-23-08 11:10 AM   #11 
     - last time I checked, this was 2008  libnnc   Jul-23-08 11:11 AM   #12 
     - Ask the people who are still bemoaning Kerry's swiftboating  Richardo   Jul-23-08 11:13 AM   #15 
        - People should not lie about McCain. This was the problem with the swiftboaters: the lies...  Mass   Jul-23-08 11:15 AM   #19 
        - point to where I moaned about Kerry's service.  libnnc   Jul-23-08 11:18 AM   #24 
     - Yeah we can. We can do it because they did it first.  treestar   Jul-23-08 12:05 PM   #56 
     - It's a pissing contest you can't win.  Richardo   Jul-23-08 01:51 PM   #87 
     - Is there a difference between swiftboating and criticizing or pointing out lies  uppityperson   Jul-23-08 01:01 PM   #79 
        - I'll bet the swiftboaters said the same thing  Richardo   Jul-23-08 01:49 PM   #85 
           - which part of "The Swiftboaters lied" do you not understand?  libnnc   Jul-23-08 01:54 PM   #89 
           - Is there a difference between swiftboating and criticizing or pointing out lies?  uppityperson   Jul-23-08 01:59 PM   #91 
              - You're right - I read that as a statement.  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:28 PM   #96 
  - There's nothing honorable about John McCain.  Bornaginhooligan   Jul-23-08 11:08 AM   #9 
  - I'll sure criticize him for having Swiftliars on his campaign  wryter2000   Jul-23-08 11:39 AM   #42 
  - It's been that "Holier than thou," and "We'll take the high road !"  TheDebbieDee   Jul-23-08 11:10 AM   #10 
  - That's fine, but it means you can't bitch about the other side using the "low road" tactics.  cobalt1999   Jul-23-08 11:14 AM   #16 
     - It might mean that YOU can't 8itch about repukes using  TheDebbieDee   Jul-23-08 11:17 AM   #22 
     - LOL  cobalt1999   Jul-23-08 11:22 AM   #28 
     - Then you prefer a repuke Presidency  treestar   Jul-23-08 12:06 PM   #57 
        - Hypocrisy is one thing I try very hard not to fall into.  cobalt1999   Jul-23-08 12:18 PM   #63 
  - No, he's not a chicken hawk.... He's a fucking WAR HAWK!!!  Breeze54   Jul-23-08 11:12 AM   #13 
  - He got shot down and held prisoner by a third world army. What's there to swiftboat?  devilgrrl   Jul-23-08 11:12 AM   #14 
  - That's fine. But it's not a qualification for President. n/t  rucky   Jul-23-08 11:14 AM   #17 
  - Would questions about the side-effects of his meds be okay?  L. Coyote   Jul-23-08 11:15 AM   #18 
  - Nope, I hope he goes down however he goes down--I am "win at all costs" now.  wienerdoggie   Jul-23-08 11:15 AM   #20 
  - I agree. WE MUST win in November. Whatever it takes!  TheDebbieDee   Jul-23-08 11:19 AM   #25 
     - I'm almost on board with that except for two things  jbane   Jul-23-08 11:27 AM   #31 
        - "Go swiftboat"..  YvonneCa   Jul-23-08 11:37 AM   #38 
        - I'm a wife of a career serviceman--I don't think military records are off-limits--  wienerdoggie   Jul-23-08 12:27 PM   #66 
        - I'm a vet, too, Jbane. And I take exception to McSame's  TheDebbieDee   Jul-23-08 02:47 PM   #111 
  - McCain is swiftboating himself, thanks to Jed Lewison of the JedReport.  Kaleko   Jul-23-08 11:16 AM   #21 
  - thanks for that clip....did you see this one, from the same person, which highlights conclusively  Gabi Hayes   Jul-23-08 12:03 PM   #53 
  - I agree, he served honorably. No problems with that. I agree with Wes Clark,  MiniMe   Jul-23-08 11:20 AM   #26 
  - Is it fair to revisit what the Bush campaign said back in 2000 about McCain?  predfan   Jul-23-08 11:20 AM   #27 
  - Ah yes, the high road, it always leads to a good view of your opponent's victory party  RGBolen   Jul-23-08 11:22 AM   #29 
  - Sad but so true. nt  zanne   Jul-23-08 11:30 AM   #34 
  - Did he stick up for Kerry publicly against the Swift Boat "Veterans"?  The Stranger   Jul-23-08 11:23 AM   #30 
  - I think we should give as good as we get.  zanne   Jul-23-08 11:30 AM   #33 
  - Do you consider Wes Clark's comments a form of "swiftboating"?  bullwinkle428   Jul-23-08 11:36 AM   #36 
  - John McCain is swiftboating himself  blogslut   Jul-23-08 11:37 AM   #37 
  - While I agree in principle  wryter2000   Jul-23-08 11:37 AM   #39 
  - Swiftboaters weren't wrong for criticizing Kerry's record, they were wrong for LYING about it.  iconicgnom   Jul-23-08 11:38 AM   #40 
  - That's a good distinction to make.  LittleClarkie   Jul-23-08 01:14 PM   #80 
  - Thank you...  YvonneCa   Jul-23-08 02:41 PM   #107 
  - i have never nor would i ever criticize his military. regardless, i thank him for that AND  seabeyond   Jul-23-08 11:38 AM   #41 
  - oh boy....I am not jumping in the middle of this mess.  Marrah_G   Jul-23-08 11:39 AM   #43 
  - if he uses any of the swift boaters in his campaign he should be trashed for it, other  chimpsrsmarter   Jul-23-08 11:42 AM   #44 
  - I've missed your pragmatic rationality...  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:43 PM   #108 
     - Hi, nice to see you too!  chimpsrsmarter   Jul-23-08 02:53 PM   #117 
  - "The man served honorably."  Vickers   Jul-23-08 11:43 AM   #45 
  - he's sporting a Navy avatar. I guess he is looking out for his Navy buddy  NightWatcher   Jul-23-08 12:25 PM   #65 
  - USN  jbane   Jul-23-08 04:08 PM   #118 
  - I would not attack  Mz Pip   Jul-23-08 11:44 AM   #47 
  - The Democrats didn't start this bs.  sarge43   Jul-23-08 11:47 AM   #48 
  - So we can't wear the purple heart bandaids at our convention?  JaneQPublic   Jul-23-08 11:56 AM   #49 
     - I hope not, else I'd have to re-register as an Independent. n/t  sarge43   Jul-23-08 12:15 PM   #61 
  - The truth should never be off limits. And I'd be REALLY surprised if any  AzDar   Jul-23-08 11:56 AM   #50 
  - we don't need to swiftboat McCain: He's swiftboating himself  cap   Jul-23-08 12:00 PM   #51 
  - It's not 'swiftboating' if it is factual...that is the biggest difference..  truebrit71   Jul-23-08 12:02 PM   #52 
  - And lose the election  treestar   Jul-23-08 12:03 PM   #54 
  - Who's doing it to mccain?  No Surrender   Jul-23-08 12:04 PM   #55 
  - Who's swiftboating McCain? eom  donco6   Jul-23-08 12:07 PM   #58 
  - John McCain is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life  yorgatron   Jul-23-08 12:15 PM   #60 
     - Yes mother.  sarge43   Jul-23-08 12:16 PM   #62 
  - "swiftboating" has the connotation of UNtrue. McNASTY has ugly TRUTHS about him. n/t  UTUSN   Jul-23-08 12:23 PM   #64 
  - No one's questioning his service--it's his shameless use of it as  Alter Ego   Jul-23-08 12:29 PM   #67 
  - What's honorable about bombing innocent women and children to death?  DutchLiberal   Jul-23-08 12:36 PM   #68 
  - Questioning the relevancy of his POW experience isn't swiftboating  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-23-08 12:37 PM   #69 
  - Pfffft  temperancedissent   Jul-23-08 12:38 PM   #70 
  - "Swiftboating" is telling outright lies. Calling into question Captain Combover's .........  Husb2Sparkly   Jul-23-08 12:42 PM   #71 
  - the man did not serve honorably. he couldn't carry John Kerry's jockstrap. nt.  IndianaJones   Jul-23-08 12:43 PM   #72 
  - Show me one example of a DUer Swiftboating McCain.  pnwmom   Jul-23-08 12:45 PM   #75 
  - I agree.  EOO   Jul-23-08 12:48 PM   #76 
  - He did (serve honorably)? Link? Proof? He needs to prove what he says.  uppityperson   Jul-23-08 01:00 PM   #78 
  - Indeed.  sarge43   Jul-23-08 01:32 PM   #81 
  - I can still question his judgment and military policies.  quantessd   Jul-23-08 01:33 PM   #82 
  - Of course you can. Questioning his judgement is not casting aspersions on his service.  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:36 PM   #99 
  - mc idiot hired the very people who swiftboated him to swiftboat Obama  Philosoraptor   Jul-23-08 01:38 PM   #83 
  - How many planes did he crack up?  dbaker41   Jul-23-08 01:48 PM   #84 
  - i agree. nt  lionesspriyanka   Jul-23-08 01:50 PM   #86 
  - Do you agree that McCain should shut his fucking yap about his record?  libnnc   Jul-23-08 01:56 PM   #90 
     - no. i think people shouldnt lie about service. what they did to kerry was unforgiveable.  lionesspriyanka   Jul-23-08 02:02 PM   #92 
        - Who on DU has lied about McCain's service record?  libnnc   Jul-23-08 02:07 PM   #93 
        - did i say he has? i just agreed that he shouldnt be swiftboated.  lionesspriyanka   Jul-23-08 02:10 PM   #94 
        - You won't win that argument.  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:33 PM   #97 
           - People who plan on voting for McCain soley based on his POW status  libnnc   Jul-23-08 02:37 PM   #101 
           - That's what I was saying  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:39 PM   #103 
           - Funny how that works  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jul-23-08 02:43 PM   #109 
              - You're another one who can't read, aren't you?  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:49 PM   #112 
        - Thank you...  YvonneCa   Jul-23-08 02:40 PM   #106 
  - okay.  spanone   Jul-23-08 01:52 PM   #88 
  - Who's spreading false stories about McCain's service in Vietnam?  LeftCoast   Jul-23-08 02:34 PM   #98 
  - Suggesting his Vietnam experience does not qualify him is NOT disparaging his service  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:38 PM   #102 
     - I think we're arguing much the same thing  LeftCoast   Jul-23-08 02:44 PM   #110 
        - Agreed.  Richardo   Jul-23-08 02:50 PM   #113 
  - I think I've read 15 replies asking you for examples of "swiftboating", or do you know what the fuck  burythehatchet   Jul-23-08 02:36 PM   #100 
  - The Mets are closing in on the Phillies....  jbane   Jul-23-08 04:11 PM   #119 
  - He didn't serve Honorably  snooper2   Jul-23-08 02:39 PM   #104 
  - He was a lousy student, he's a liar, he is devoid of principles, he's never had to work an honest  burythehatchet   Jul-23-08 02:39 PM   #105 
  - Telling the truth is not "swiftboating."  silverweb   Jul-23-08 02:52 PM   #115 
  - Here's 2 Swiftboats I see against McCain quite often on DU  RamboLiberal   Jul-23-08 02:52 PM   #116 

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