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56. Because some of the 310 million people here are sick fuckers
That deserve to be put to death...period. The same as you would put down a rabid dog as I stated above, worse than a rabid dog even..

Profile: Gary Bishop molested children for many years without being caught. At some point his crimes advanced to murder, which he discovered also fed his sick needs. Bishop killed five young boys from 1979 until his capture in 1983. To try to control his impulses he would perform his abuse on puppies, but that failed.
After confessing to his crimes he was tried and sentenced to death. In preparation for his execution by lethal injection, he read the Book of Mormon repeatedly and shielded himself from the profanity spoken by the other inmates by wearing headphones. In the final hours prior to his execution he fasted and prayed. Arthur Gary Bishiop was executed by lethal injection by the state of Utah on June 10, 1988. He was 37 years old.
Known Victims:
Alonzo Daniels Age four. Murdered after being kidnapped from his families apartment complex courtyard.
Kim Peterson Age 11. Murdered after going to Bishop's home to sell him his roller skates.

Danny Davis Age four. Murdered after being kidnapped at a grocery store.

Troy Ward Age six. Murdered after being kidnapped on his birthday from a park near his home.

Graeme Cunningham Age 13. Murdered after he vanished from his neighborhood.

Nine-year-old Jessica Lunsford disappeared from her bedroom at her grandparents' home in the middle of the night Feb. 23, 2005. A massive search was launched for the missing girl that drew the attention of national television networks over the following three weeks.
Police found the body of Jessica Lunsford buried in a shallow grave under the back porch of a mobile home less than 150 yards from her home on March 18, 2005, a day after a convicted sex offender told authorities that he had killed the nine-year-old.

Dean Corll:
Dean Corll was a 33-year-old electrician living in Houston, Texas, who with two teen accomplices was responsible for kidnapping, torturing, raping and murdering at least 27 young boys in Houston in the early 1970s. The Houston Mass Murders, as the case was later called, became one of the most horrific series of murders in U.S. history.

There was nothing remarkable about Corll except for his odd choice of friends, who were mostly young male teens. Two, who were particularly close to Corll, was a 14-year-old boy named Elmer Wayne Henley and a 15-year-old boy named David Brooks. The three spent much time hanging around at Corll's house or driving with him in his van. That was until August 8, 1973, when Henley shot and killed Corll at his home. When police interviewed Henley about the shooting and searched Corll's home for evidence, a bizarre and brutal story of torture, rape and murder began to unfold.
$200 Per Head:
While in police custody, Henley began to tell about his relationship with Corll. He said Corll paid him $200 or more "per head" to lure young boys to his house. Most of the boys were from low-income Houston neighborhoods and were easily persuaded to come to a party where there would be free alcohol and drugs. Many were also childhood friends of Henley and had no reason to distrust his intentions. But once inside Corll's home, they would soon become victims of his sadistic and murderous obsessions.
The Torture Chamber:
Police skepticism towards Henley's story turned after searching Corll's house. Inside they discovered a bedroom that looked as if it was designed for torture and murder. There was a board with handcuffs attached, ropes, a large dildo and plastic covering the carpeted floor. There was also an odd wooden crate with what appeared to be airholes cut into it.
Henley Talks:
When Henley described what had happened before shooting Corll, the items in the room corroborated his story. According to Henley, he made Corll furious when he brought his young girlfriend over to the house with another friend, Tim Kerley. The group drank and did drugs and each fell asleep. When Henley awoke, his feet were bound and Corll was handcuffing him to his "torture" board. His girlfriend and Tim were also bound with electrical tape over their mouths. Henley was fully aware of what was to follow, having witnessed this same scenario before.
He managed to convince Corll to free him by promising to participate in the torture and murder of his friends. Once free, he went along with some of Corll's instructions, including attempting to rape the young woman. Corll meanwhile, was trying to rape Tim, but the young boy fought so much Corll, frustrated, left the room. Henley immediately went for Corll's gun which he left behind. When Corll returned, Henley shot him six times, killing him.

Burial Grounds:
Over the next few days, Henley readily talked about his part in the murderous activity in Corll's house. He led the police to where many of the victims were buried. The first location was a boatshed Corll rented in southwest Houston. There police uncovered the remains of 17 of the boys Corll had murdered. Ten more bodies were found at various other burial sites in or near Houston. Altogether there were 27 bodies recovered.
Brutal Torture and Murder:
An examination of the victims determined that some of the boys had been shot, others strangled to death. Signs of torture were visible, including castration, objects inserted into the victim's rectums and glass rods pushed and into their urethras. All had been sodomized.
Did Houston Police Fail?
There was much criticism launched at the Houston police department for failing to investigate the many missing person's reports filed by the parents of the dead boys. The police viewed most reports as probable runaway cases although many of them came from the same area or neighborhood.

The Victims
The ages of the young victims ranged from ages nine to age 21, however most were in their teens. Two of the families suffered losing two sons to Corll's deadly rage. Henley confessed to knowing about Corll's brutal crimes and also to participating in murdering one of the boys. Brooks, although closer to Corll than Henley, told police that he had no knowledge of the crimes.

Richard Chase: Richard Chase savegely murdered six people, but one has to wonder if others shared some of the blame.
His parents and health officials considered him stable enough to live without supervision, in spite of the fact he displayed severe abnormal behavior from an early age.

By the age of 10, Chase displayed three known warning signs of children who grow to become serial killers - bed-wetting beyond the normal age, cruelty to animals and setting fires.

First Murder:
December 29, 1977 - Chase killed 51-year-old Ambrose Griffin in a drive-by shooting. Griffin was helping his wife bring groceries into the house when he was shot and killed.
Random Violent Acts:
January 11, 1978 - Chase attacked a neighbor after he asked for a cigarette then restrained her until she turned over the entire pack. Two weeks later, he broke into a house, robbed it then urinated inside a drawer containing infant clothing and defecated on the bed in a child's room. Interrupted by the owners return, Chase was attacked but managed to escape.

Unlocked Doors:
Chase continued to search for unlocked doors of homes to enter. He believed a locked door was a sign that he was not wanted, however an unlocked door was an invitation to enter.
Second Murder:
January 23, 1978 - Teresa Wallin, pregnant and at home alone, was taking out the garbage when Chase entered through her unlocked front door. Using the same gun he used to kill Griffin, he shot Teresa three times, killing her, then raped her corpse while stabbing her several times with a butcher knife. He then removed multiple organs, cut off one of the nipples and drank the blood. Before leaving, he collected dog feces from the yard and stuffed it into the victim's mouth and down her throat.
Final Murders:
January 27, 1978 - The bodies of Evelyn Miroth, age 38, her six-year-old son Jason, and friend Dan Meredith, were found murdered inside Evelyn's home. Missing was Evelyn's 22-month-old nephew David, who she had been baby sitting. The crime scene was horrific. Dan Meredith's body was found in the hallway. He was killed with a direct gunshot would to his head. Evelyn and Jason were found in Evelyn's bedroom. Jason had been shot twice in the head.

The depth of Chase's insanity was clear when investigators went over the crime scene. Evelyn's corpse had been raped and sodomized multiple times. Her stomach had been cut open and various organs were removed. Her throat was cut and she had been sodomized with a knife and there was a failed attempt to remove one of her eyeballs.

Not found at the murder scene was the infant, David. However, blood in the baby's crib gave police little hope the child was still alive. Chase later told police that he brought the dead infant to his apartment. After mutilating the baby's body he disposed of the corpse at a nearby church, which is where it was later found.

What he did leave at the grotesque murder scene were clear hand and shoe prints, which soon led police to his door and to the end of Chase's insane rampage.

The End Result:
In 1979, a jury found Chase guilty on six counts of first-degree murder and he was sentenced to die in the gas chamber. Disturbed by the gruesome details of his crimes, other prisoners wanted him gone and often tried to talk him into killing himself. Whether it was the constant suggestions or just his own tortured mind, Chase managed to collect enough prescribed antidepressants to kill himself. On December 26, 1980, prison officials discovered him dead in his cell from an overdose of medications.

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  -I was raped as a child and I have something to say to the Supreme Court: bertha katzenengel  Jun-26-08 07:19 AM   #0 
  - State-sanctioned Murder is always wrong.  tekisui   Jun-26-08 07:21 AM   #1 
  - the OP has guts beyond guts and a conscience that is an example  roguevalley   Jun-26-08 02:25 PM   #139 
  - Thank you for your post.  zanne   Jun-26-08 07:22 AM   #2 
  - k&r  zanne   Jun-26-08 07:23 AM   #3 
  - Agree.  ananda   Jun-26-08 07:24 AM   #4 
  - If anybody Obama should know better  NNN0LHI   Jun-26-08 07:26 AM   #5 
  - He did surprise me  malaise   Jun-26-08 07:28 AM   #7 
  - That's why their Governor put a morotorium on executions.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jun-26-08 07:36 AM   #11 
  - A Republican governor no less  NNN0LHI   Jun-26-08 08:16 AM   #25 
     - republican governor with blood on his own hands and  mopinko   Jun-26-08 08:43 AM   #37 
  - It's the demagoguery.  redqueen   Jun-26-08 12:11 PM   #98 
     - yes, that's how I'm looking at it. No one is interested in nuances and logistical nightmares,  Iris   Jun-26-08 12:24 PM   #107 
     - Exactly... it's *nothing* to do with the child, or justice.  redqueen   Jun-26-08 12:27 PM   #110 
     - Oh absolutely - no one should EVER ask a child to put someone (many times family members) to death.  helderheid   Jun-26-08 02:58 PM   #146 
     - Yep. He has to avoid a Dukakis 'if your wife was murdered' question  NCevilDUer   Jun-26-08 02:34 PM   #142 
        - yep. I was thinking the same thing.  Iris   Jun-26-08 03:25 PM   #157 
  - From what I understand some victims' rights groups support this decision.  Richardo   Jun-26-08 07:28 AM   #6 
  - From an interview I saw with a victim  subliminable   Jun-26-08 07:49 AM   #15 
  - Yes, this was a very interesting perspective on the matter.....  timeforarevolution   Jun-26-08 07:53 AM   #16 
  - An excellent point  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-26-08 08:15 AM   #24 
  - I think their reasons are moral.  Iris   Jun-26-08 12:26 PM   #109 
     - I do too - just not the *same* moral reasons.  Richardo   Jun-26-08 01:43 PM   #126 
  - I cannot even believe that there was such a sentence was passed, let alone be decided by Supremes.  OmmmSweetOmmm   Jun-26-08 07:29 AM   #8 
  - "telling the people that murder on some level is ok"  subliminable   Jun-26-08 08:05 AM   #20 
  - Some murder has always been okay  Chulanowa   Jun-26-08 11:05 AM   #67 
  - i sometimes think  druidity33   Jun-26-08 07:29 AM   #9 
  - I agree with you...  TwoSparkles   Jun-26-08 07:33 AM   #10 
  - I agrree , captial punishment is wrong. Period.  bowens43   Jun-26-08 07:36 AM   #12 
  - But...  gorfle   Jun-26-08 08:10 PM   #178 
  - thank you for your courage to speak out on this  wellstone dem   Jun-26-08 07:36 AM   #13 
  - When you die, I'm grabbing onto the edge of your skirt,  The Backlash Cometh   Jun-26-08 07:42 AM   #14 
  - TBC, that's about the nicest thing  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 08:05 AM   #21 
  - I'm so sorry that happened to you, Bertha.  raccoon   Jun-26-08 07:58 AM   #17 
  - that book left me outraged  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 08:04 AM   #19 
  - thou shalt not 'state' exemptions  spanone   Jun-26-08 08:03 AM   #18 
  - Thou shalt not kill  AlbertCat   Jun-26-08 12:15 PM   #101 
  - what concerns me is the inability to understand  oscarmitre   Jun-26-08 08:13 AM   #22 
  - Another excellent point  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-26-08 08:18 AM   #26 
  - DUers have such a punishment fetish that they don't understand the utility aspect  alcibiades_mystery   Jun-26-08 08:20 AM   #28 
  - SOME DUers. It's like the Moral Majoity, which is neither.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-26-08 11:47 AM   #80 
     - yes, some is right. So is loud. It's surprising to see them in any case. n/t  Iris   Jun-26-08 02:03 PM   #131 
  - I wonder how effectively a sentence prevents violent crime like rape/murder  crikkett   Jun-26-08 08:37 AM   #34 
  - I think studies have shown  marions ghost   Jun-26-08 10:22 AM   #51 
     - States with the death pealty have much higher murder rates  Jackpine Radical   Jun-27-08 04:56 PM   #213 
  - Some people just lose all reason...  redqueen   Jun-26-08 12:15 PM   #100 
  - If It's Morally Wrong To Kill Anyone  Weezer   Jun-26-08 08:14 AM   #23 
  - I believe it was Carlin also who said,  TechBear_Seattle   Jun-26-08 08:19 AM   #27 
  - Welcome to DU.  redqueen   Jun-26-08 12:16 PM   #102 
  - death penalty for child rapists  whathehell   Jun-26-08 08:23 AM   #29 
  - That's a very good point.  EOTE   Jun-26-08 08:42 AM   #36 
  - Exactly! The child rapist would just kill the child, if there was a Death Penalty.  Breeze54   Jun-26-08 09:02 AM   #42 
  - If you are fucked enough in the head to rape a small child..  snooper2   Jun-26-08 09:53 AM   #46 
  - Don't hang your hat on that.  Tandalayo_Scheisskopf   Jun-26-08 02:23 PM   #135 
     - Selection bias  geekdem   Jun-26-08 05:54 PM   #169 
  - I tried arguing this an another thread  Jakes Progress   Jun-26-08 03:17 PM   #152 
  - I was not, Bertha, but I totally agree with you.  WakeMeUp   Jun-26-08 08:26 AM   #30 
  - I am depressed because this is the country we live in, a country that WANTS to kill criminals  tuggle   Jun-26-08 08:29 AM   #31 
  - Thank you, BK  Dogtown   Jun-26-08 08:30 AM   #32 
  - child rapists deserve to die, but GOVERNMENTS DO NOT DESERVE THE POWER TO KILL THEIR SUBJECTS  unblock   Jun-26-08 08:30 AM   #33 
  - Thanks, and more power to you  crikkett   Jun-26-08 08:38 AM   #35 
  - Thank you for the post. I agree.  DesertRat   Jun-26-08 08:47 AM   #38 
  - Thank you, bertha.  PeaceNikki   Jun-26-08 08:49 AM   #39 
  - iirc, death used to be the punishment for rape in many states. just as folks  mopinko   Jun-26-08 08:51 AM   #40 
  - Death Penalty is wrong.  riverlady   Jun-26-08 08:59 AM   #41 
  - Worse than death  HelenWheels   Jun-26-08 09:27 AM   #43 
  - interesting point  Apollo11   Jun-26-08 12:19 PM   #104 
  - Thank you Bertha. And one thing many people AREN'T taking into  Lorien   Jun-26-08 09:46 AM   #44 
  - Rabid Human Beings  snooper2   Jun-26-08 09:48 AM   #45 
  - "Put down" -- ???  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 10:12 AM   #47 
  - wiped from existence..  snooper2   Jun-26-08 10:15 AM   #48 
     - Some humans have not evolved to strive for the end of barbarism.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 10:26 AM   #52 
     - Because some of the 310 million people here are sick fuckers  snooper2   Jun-26-08 10:35 AM   #56 
        - Perhaps you should examine the health of your own psyche,  MadHound   Jun-26-08 10:47 AM   #61 
        - DNA evidence will prove they are guilty..  snooper2   Jun-26-08 10:54 AM   #64 
           - Stop that shit right now, OK!  MadHound   Jun-26-08 11:08 AM   #70 
           - See, that's the difference between you and me  snooper2   Jun-26-08 12:27 PM   #111 
              - You didn't address the last point.  ieoeja   Jun-26-08 02:31 PM   #141 
              - it's sounds like this is about vengeance  fascisthunter   Jun-26-08 07:30 PM   #177 
              - Death penalty  cesar008   Jun-26-08 02:45 PM   #143 
              - nah, you just think killing can be justified.  iamthebandfanman   Jun-26-08 03:58 PM   #163 
           - it doesn't help society to kill insane people.  marions ghost   Jun-26-08 11:13 AM   #71 
           - Satisfy the morbid, raging bystanders' blood-lust.  redqueen   Jun-26-08 12:19 PM   #103 
           - and that doesn't strike you, in any way shape or form  northzax   Jun-26-08 12:20 PM   #105 
              - mentally retarded or insane are one thing...  snooper2   Jun-26-08 12:29 PM   #113 
                 - by definition, maybe not  northzax   Jun-26-08 12:50 PM   #117 
        - Hmmm... No  Gilligan   Jun-27-08 04:39 PM   #212 
     - might feel like justice,  marions ghost   Jun-26-08 10:29 AM   #54 
        - Check my post above..  snooper2   Jun-26-08 10:38 AM   #57 
  - Take a look at this map.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-26-08 11:45 AM   #78 
  - And if they're wrongly convicted? You're OK with murdering innocent people? (nt)  redqueen   Jun-26-08 12:11 PM   #97 
  - I sure the hell am not OK with murdering innocent people...  No DUplicitous DUpe   Jun-26-08 06:59 PM   #176 
  - And just who would get to decide who gets murdered?  varkam   Jun-26-08 12:57 PM   #119 
  - i dont think dogs should be put down  iamthebandfanman   Jun-26-08 03:57 PM   #162 
  - Sadly, Bertha, you are far from alone.  Blue_In_AK   Jun-26-08 10:18 AM   #49 
  - Obama's Statement Is Very Depressing  ComtesseDeSpair   Jun-26-08 10:20 AM   #50 
  - You mean the "pro life before birth / pro death post birth" voters...  ForeignSpectator   Jun-26-08 01:20 PM   #122 
  - he's pandering for votes  Skittles   Jun-26-08 02:53 PM   #145 
  - The court was wrong.  janesez   Jun-26-08 10:28 AM   #53 
  - Bertha, you are my hero.  PeterU   Jun-26-08 10:31 AM   #55 
  - My reply is that things are not always black/white - think about how we  TBF   Jun-26-08 10:42 AM   #58 
  - What about the Catholic Priests?  TNOE   Jun-26-08 10:44 AM   #59 
  - I agree with you  MonkeyFunk   Jun-26-08 10:47 AM   #60 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-26-08 11:49 AM   #81 
     - What the fuck kind of statement is that?  janesez   Jun-26-08 11:54 AM   #84 
        - I call 'em as I sees 'em.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-26-08 11:56 AM   #86 
  - wow... thumbs Up to You  fascisthunter   Jun-26-08 10:49 AM   #62 
  - I wasn't raped, but I did go through some rather minor sexual abuse  sleebarker   Jun-26-08 10:51 AM   #63 
  - Thank you for taking a stand. I am standing with you.  SalviaBlue   Jun-26-08 11:02 AM   #65 
  - I used to agree, but not any more  northernlights   Jun-26-08 11:02 AM   #66 
  - Yes, but...  ComtesseDeSpair   Jun-26-08 11:06 AM   #68 
  - And since most children who are abused are abused by someone they know, often times family members,  Iris   Jun-26-08 11:57 AM   #87 
  - You agree with Obama on "euthanasia?" Or you agree with him on "cruel and unusual  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 12:28 PM   #112 
  - Despite the propaganda that is usually presented most sex offenders *do not* repeat the offense  justaregularperson   Jun-27-08 12:43 AM   #190 
  - i agree nt  lionesspriyanka   Jun-26-08 11:07 AM   #69 
  - There are people who have been unjustly accused of child molestation  El Fuego   Jun-26-08 11:27 AM   #72 
  - I don't like the death penalty for mixed reasons  glitch   Jun-26-08 11:28 AM   #73 
  - I share more than your view on capital punishment-  Bluerthanblue   Jun-26-08 11:36 AM   #74 
  - Laws shouldn't be based on emotion..  skooooo   Jun-26-08 11:40 AM   #75 
  - Excellent point. People who do that would be just as likely to treat these same children as adults  Iris   Jun-26-08 11:52 AM   #82 
  - My opinion isn't based on emotion.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 01:43 PM   #125 
  - If they ARE guilty..  penndragon69   Jun-26-08 11:43 AM   #76 
  - Why should I house and feed a criminal in my own home when I pay taxes to keep them in jail?  Iris   Jun-26-08 11:53 AM   #83 
  - And this statement is...?  LanternWaste   Jun-26-08 12:03 PM   #94 
  - Should be willing to house and feed . . . tell me why.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 12:25 PM   #108 
  - AS i expected..  penndragon69   Jun-26-08 04:11 PM   #165 
     - Don't forget hanged and branded!  justaregularperson   Jun-27-08 12:53 AM   #191 
     - Your logic is poor. Your fallacies are two-fold. If you can stop shouting "bullshit,"  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 09:07 AM   #207 
  - Read War Against the Weak by Edwin Black. You sound very much  jwirr   Jun-26-08 06:15 PM   #170 
  - absolutely Bertha! thanks for posting this...  FarceOfNature   Jun-26-08 11:44 AM   #77 
  - What would Jesus Do?  Hail Lama   Jun-26-08 11:47 AM   #79 
  - to murder someone as a penalty for murder is wrong  paulk   Jun-26-08 11:56 AM   #85 
  - I agree with you  noonwitch   Jun-26-08 11:58 AM   #88 
  - In a black & White case Im all for the Death death penalty  BigD_95   Jun-26-08 11:59 AM   #89 
  - that is truly sickening. n/t  Iris   Jun-26-08 12:00 PM   #92 
  - I imagine some people give much more weight to a personal blood-lust...  LanternWaste   Jun-26-08 12:07 PM   #95 
  - A confession isn't always proof of guilt.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 12:23 PM   #106 
     - Exactly  justaregularperson   Jun-27-08 12:58 AM   #192 
  - Thanks so much for your post.  cbayer   Jun-26-08 11:59 AM   #90 
  - I agree with you.  undeterred   Jun-26-08 11:59 AM   #91 
  - Hear hear!  EstimatedProphet   Jun-26-08 12:02 PM   #93 
  - Hear hear, Bertha!  redqueen   Jun-26-08 12:10 PM   #96 
  - Death Penalty is a slippery slope  windoe   Jun-26-08 12:13 PM   #99 
  - however  paulstylos   Jun-26-08 12:34 PM   #114 
  - Thank you, Bertha.  Jackpine Radical   Jun-26-08 12:38 PM   #115 
  - I so agree with you, Bertha.  Maat   Jun-26-08 12:42 PM   #116 
  - I love you, Bertha!  PelosiFan   Jun-26-08 12:54 PM   #118 
  - And I love you, PF.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 08:19 AM   #204 
  - there are always cases where someone  BigD_95   Jun-26-08 01:13 PM   #120 
  - "you kill, you kick, you piss" -- WTF?  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 01:37 PM   #124 
  - N/A  BigD_95   Jun-26-08 01:15 PM   #121 
  - Thanks for sharing something so difficult to talk about  libodem   Jun-26-08 01:21 PM   #123 
  - You're absolutely right, Bertha.  oktoberain   Jun-26-08 01:49 PM   #127 
  - Death Penalty never bothered me until I heard what Matthew Shepard's father said....  LynneSin   Jun-26-08 01:52 PM   #128 
  - Not to mention that some of the people who would love to see some killers get the death penalty,  Iris   Jun-26-08 02:07 PM   #132 
     - Don't sign me up for that team  LynneSin   Jun-26-08 03:46 PM   #159 
  - I agree with you and I commend you for thinking this through even though  Cleita   Jun-26-08 01:54 PM   #129 
  - This is one the SC got right, IMO -- and courageous of you --  defendandprotect   Jun-26-08 01:59 PM   #130 
  - I am against the death penalty  awoke_in_2003   Jun-26-08 02:19 PM   #133 
  - Any child abuse pushes me damned close, too.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 08:14 AM   #203 
  - Your strength, your beauty moves me to tears.  duhneece   Jun-26-08 02:21 PM   #134 
  - death penalty should exist but not expanded  PurpleStateVoter   Jun-26-08 02:23 PM   #136 
  - Great post, Bertha  enigmatic   Jun-26-08 02:25 PM   #137 
  - I agree totally  MrScorpio   Jun-26-08 02:25 PM   #138 
  - I used to be against the Death penalty  BigD_95   Jun-26-08 02:27 PM   #140 
  - Thanks for your post..  rainlillie   Jun-26-08 02:48 PM   #144 
  - I can't.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-26-08 03:03 PM   #147 
     - My predator  rainlillie   Jun-26-08 03:13 PM   #150 
        - "Some people think it's a one time thing and with a little therapy you'll get over it."  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 08:01 AM   #202 
  - Sanctioned murder tells people that revenge killing is ok too, which increases murder because  McCamy Taylor   Jun-26-08 03:07 PM   #148 
  - All that's fine and good  rainlillie   Jun-26-08 03:19 PM   #153 
  - Thank you Bertha!  judy   Jun-26-08 03:12 PM   #149 
  - It's not revenge it's justice!  rainlillie   Jun-26-08 03:20 PM   #154 
  - How is it Revenge?  BigD_95   Jun-26-08 03:22 PM   #155 
     - I agree 100 percent!  rainlillie   Jun-26-08 03:23 PM   #156 
     - No. You don't have to be the victim to exact revenge.  Commie Pinko Dirtbag   Jun-26-08 03:44 PM   #158 
     - Death is an easy way out.  Fox Mulder   Jun-26-08 03:51 PM   #161 
  - Same here and agreed. /nt  readmoreoften   Jun-26-08 03:13 PM   #151 
  - State sanctioned murder is wrong.  Fox Mulder   Jun-26-08 03:49 PM   #160 
  - I am against the deathe penalty in all cases  gaspee   Jun-26-08 04:03 PM   #164 
  - You are a brave and wise person on this  YankeyMCC   Jun-26-08 04:17 PM   #166 
  - You are of course right on this, Obama is beginning to alarm me on  ooglymoogly   Jun-26-08 05:01 PM   #167 
  - I was very surprised to hear my daughter, who was also raped as  jwirr   Jun-26-08 05:17 PM   #168 
  - Progressives promoting the Death Penalty, just like China, Iran,  durrrty libby   Jun-26-08 06:37 PM   #171 
  - This isn'nt about group think...  rainlillie   Jun-27-08 06:33 AM   #196 
     - Yeahh riiight. You keep telling yourself that  durrrty libby   Jun-27-08 10:15 AM   #208 
  - You are so right  slay   Jun-26-08 06:39 PM   #172 
  - Thank you so much for saying that. Another thing the bloodthirsty mob fail to consider:  thecatburgler   Jun-26-08 06:42 PM   #173 
  - Something else to consider...  Q3JR4   Jun-26-08 06:50 PM   #174 
  - I'm with you. nt  rateyes   Jun-26-08 06:54 PM   #175 
  - I have mixed feelings about the death penalty. I don't support it in principle...  Elrond Hubbard   Jun-26-08 08:19 PM   #179 
  - Thanks for your honesty..  rainlillie   Jun-27-08 06:31 AM   #195 
  - Perhaps I should have added this: I have in fact wished my rapist dead.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 07:43 AM   #201 
  - It is murder for circumstance........  Klukie   Jun-26-08 08:36 PM   #180 
  - Proud to be rec number 100.  AspieGrrl   Jun-26-08 09:21 PM   #181 
  - Thank you. I agree. n/t  whereismyparty   Jun-26-08 10:06 PM   #182 
  - Obama needs to wise up  nankerphelge   Jun-26-08 10:21 PM   #183 
  - I know I will be in the minority in this opinion here on DU  AutumnMist   Jun-26-08 10:33 PM   #184 
  - I have very strong feelings about rapists  gaspee   Jun-26-08 11:18 PM   #185 
  - Thank you for your statement  suzie   Jun-27-08 01:44 AM   #194 
  - I just came online this afternoon  AutumnMist   Jun-27-08 04:16 PM   #210 
  - Great post..  rainlillie   Jun-27-08 06:37 AM   #197 
  - I hear you on all of that, Bertha. *hugs*  GreenPartyVoter   Jun-26-08 11:25 PM   #186 
  - Whether the DP is morally wrong or not is not the issue  wpelb   Jun-27-08 12:00 AM   #187 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jun-27-08 12:13 AM   #188 
  - This post is out of place in this thread.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 07:32 AM   #199 
  - Europe "dittos" your views.  lebkuchen   Jun-27-08 12:13 AM   #189 
  - Man, our culture is de-evolving in leaps and bounds  justaregularperson   Jun-27-08 01:23 AM   #193 
  - Self-serving? No. Not helpful? I agree that my post is not helpful, because  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 07:39 AM   #200 
     - My bad for not explaining better...  justaregularperson   Jun-27-08 08:27 AM   #205 
        - Understood, and thanks.  bertha katzenengel   Jun-27-08 08:43 AM   #206 
  - We all need to realize  placton   Jun-27-08 07:08 AM   #198 
  - Thank you, Bertha!  Kajsa   Jun-27-08 11:59 AM   #209 
  - applause!  Gilligan   Jun-27-08 04:18 PM   #211 

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