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Thu Jan-25-07 08:26 PM
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| 149. Never had it. Never will. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-25-07 08:58 PM by _dynamicdems
We have a number of candidates who are better qualified than Hillary Clinton. I remember "Hillary Care" among other things she's said and done. She's two faced and backstabbing and immediately after declaring her candidacy, Hillary's campaign staffer began attacking other Democrats, including her husband's former VP, Al Gore who is not even a declared candidate.
She hasn't got a strong position on Iraq. Talk about wafflers!
She wants to make nice with Republicans and her husband has nearly crawled in bed with the Bushes in recent months. Notice there have been NO attacks from the WH on Hillary. There seems to be an uneasy truce there, for the time being. What was the price of that, I wonder? Keeping her mouth shut about Iraq? Or was it throwing other Democrats under the bus?
She hasn't done anything as a senator, so why should anyone think she'd do better holding the highest office in the land?
If Hillary gets the nomination, the conservatives will rip her to shreds. The Clinton dirty laundry and baggage will be brought out in what you can bet will be the dirtiest campaign ever. And the more she tries to fight fire with fire, the worse it will become because it will play into the public perception of her as a shrew.
Good grief, is this all the Democratic Party has to offer?
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| -When did Hillary lose your support or did she ever have it at all? |
Mortos |
Jan-24-07 08:06 PM |
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It's her voting record in the Senate |
WestHoustonDem |
Jan-24-07 08:07 PM |
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Same here. n/t |
jrthin |
Jan-24-07 08:13 PM |
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She did NOT vote for the bankruptcy bill |
LostinVA |
Jan-24-07 08:18 PM |
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"The 2 income trap" |
thoughtanarchist |
Jan-24-07 08:27 PM |
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"Two Income Trap" is by Elizabeth Warren and Amelia Warren Tyagi. |
BlueIris |
Jan-25-07 06:28 AM |
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she voted for the 2001 bill, along with 81 other Senators |
paulk |
Jan-25-07 08:07 PM |
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That would be S-256. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-25-07 06:27 AM |
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It was the follow-up to remove the scar tissue and was described at the time as |
greyhound1966 |
Jan-25-07 12:22 PM |
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me, too. Too much for corporate globalism--spells trouble to me.nt |
Indiana_Dem |
Jan-24-07 08:20 PM |
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Agreed |
OhioChick |
Jan-25-07 06:12 AM |
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Ding ding ding ding!! |
OnionPatch |
Jan-25-07 07:32 AM |
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The day she voted for IWR |
indepat |
Jan-25-07 09:10 AM |
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Her YES on the IWR--- |
RiverStone |
Jan-25-07 06:59 PM |
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I like Hillary and thought she was a great First Lady |
WI_DEM |
Jan-24-07 08:08 PM |
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If I lived in New York, I'd support her as senator, but, because I live |
Clark2008 |
Jan-24-07 08:08 PM |
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Never had it. |
MrSlayer |
Jan-24-07 08:09 PM |
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same here |
TheModernTerrorist |
Jan-25-07 12:49 PM |
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She's a great NY State Senator but she never has had my support as Presidential |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-07 08:10 PM |
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I second your post! |
Ignacio Upton |
Jan-25-07 08:10 PM |
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Omigod! What a horrible scenario! |
_dynamicdems |
Jan-25-07 08:32 PM |
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"her annoying laugh" yup. Not the kind of person you'd like to have a beer with. |
oasis |
Jan-24-07 08:12 PM |
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ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU . N/T |
Alamom |
Jan-25-07 05:31 AM |
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I Support Her Just Fine. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-24-07 08:12 PM |
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Your wife would vote for McCain |
lancdem |
Jan-24-07 08:13 PM |
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Yeah DU has ZERO correlation to the rest of the Democratic Party. |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-07 08:18 PM |
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As a Liberal, I think that the DU correlation with the rest of the Democratic |
elocs |
Jan-24-07 08:53 PM |
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Oh please, I'm am a humble servant. Nothing self-righteous about me. |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-07 09:00 PM |
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Maybe not you, but I have seen many self righteous Liberals here. |
elocs |
Jan-24-07 09:52 PM |
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I get your point ... but IMO they are not "liberal" if they are not TOLERANT |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-07 11:49 PM |
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There are my posts I won't comment on because of that. |
Marrah_G |
Jan-25-07 10:47 AM |
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No my wife wouldn't vote for McCain |
Mortos |
Jan-24-07 08:19 PM |
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My husband who loves the thought of Hillary as President |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-24-07 08:23 PM |
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Since primaries are on a state by state basis |
OKNancy |
Jan-25-07 06:40 AM |
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My husband - a classic New England liberal - told me if it |
Clark2008 |
Jan-24-07 08:46 PM |
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The world can go to hell just don't rub me the wrong way. |
Lusted4 |
Jan-24-07 09:51 PM |
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and look how popular Dean is now. We're just a year ahead of the crowd |
burythehatchet |
Jan-24-07 09:41 PM |
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Yes, because he's not an equivocating Centrist. |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-07 08:00 AM |
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Yes, during the Clinton years, when times were good. Then, some |
davidwparker |
Jan-24-07 08:15 PM |
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She never had it |
Nicole |
Jan-24-07 08:15 PM |
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Vote Date: October 11, 2002, 12:50 AM |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-24-07 08:16 PM |
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b - i - n - g - o |
motocicleta |
Jan-25-07 06:54 AM |
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That vote eliminates a number of Senators; including Kerry. |
HoneyBee |
Jan-25-07 07:00 AM |
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Yes. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-25-07 09:19 AM |
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Her support for IWR lost me as well |
ItsTheMediaStupid |
Jan-25-07 07:27 AM |
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Blah, blah, blah. . . n/t |
DURHAM D |
Jan-24-07 08:19 PM |
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I would vote for her in a New York minute |
LostinVA |
Jan-24-07 08:20 PM |
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Hillary is a great Democrat...she would be a better President than any Pub...dats for sure |
opihimoimoi |
Jan-24-07 08:20 PM |
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Who wouldn't be? |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-07 08:00 AM |
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I am just tired of her - her studied calculations |
elfin |
Jan-24-07 08:20 PM |
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Bill Clinton did the same reaching out to enemies... |
cynatnite |
Jan-25-07 10:11 AM |
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It's a quirk of mine. |
Tandalayo_Scheisskopf |
Jan-24-07 08:27 PM |
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I supported her and Bill passionately throughout his term and after. I believed |
blm |
Jan-24-07 08:33 PM |
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Strange as it sounds, I know a lot of other women who share |
WiseButAngrySara |
Jan-24-07 08:34 PM |
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I've never thought she was viable as a presidential candidate. |
Crunchy Frog |
Jan-24-07 08:46 PM |
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She hasn't lost my support, but she did disappoint me. |
lonestarnot |
Jan-24-07 08:48 PM |
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Hillary lost it when Barack Obama came into play... |
Imagevision |
Jan-24-07 08:58 PM |
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She and her husband have spent years NOT |
Generator |
Jan-24-07 09:00 PM |
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She's a "Stand In" for Bill and his "Second Chance Presidency" |
KoKo01 |
Jan-24-07 09:02 PM |
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What KoKo01 said. |
ieoeja |
Jan-25-07 12:37 PM |
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When she joined the rovian smear against Kerry just before the 06 elections... |
MH1 |
Jan-24-07 09:04 PM |
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Ding ding ding. |
BlueIris |
Jan-25-07 06:30 AM |
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...IS RIGHT!!!...and here's your NEW Frigidaire!!! |
farmbo |
Jan-25-07 07:38 AM |
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Absolutely, absolutely. |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-25-07 12:33 PM |
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Didn't have it at all! |
tnlefty |
Jan-24-07 09:26 PM |
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I WILL NOT SUPPORT THESE FAMILY DYNASTY'S..I AM SICK OF IT |
flyarm |
Jan-24-07 09:38 PM |
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Agreed. No family dynasties. |
Porcupine |
Jan-25-07 05:53 AM |
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I can't say I'm categorically against family dynasties, |
Raksha |
Jan-25-07 06:50 AM |
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Ditto. |
Nedsdag |
Jan-25-07 09:12 AM |
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That's silly. What if.. |
sellitman |
Jan-25-07 07:09 AM |
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The last Kennedy in the white house was over 40 years ago. |
_dynamicdems |
Jan-25-07 08:41 PM |
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Totally agree with you. Not good for democracy, not at all. |
WA98296 |
Jan-25-07 12:18 PM |
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I like her and support her... |
cynatnite |
Jan-24-07 09:41 PM |
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You don't care about the IWR and bankruptcy bill votes? n/t |
motocicleta |
Jan-25-07 06:58 AM |
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The IWR vote is done and over...can't be undone... |
cynatnite |
Jan-25-07 10:14 AM |
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That's cool |
motocicleta |
Jan-25-07 11:52 AM |
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I like her better than Bill, but she lost my support over the Middle East. |
Buck Rabbit |
Jan-24-07 09:42 PM |
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Never had it |
mitchum |
Jan-24-07 09:47 PM |
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After attacking Kerry for his botched joke -- that was inexcusable. |
BushDespiser12 |
Jan-24-07 09:53 PM |
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She lost it when |
Raine |
Jan-24-07 10:02 PM |
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During her campaign the first time for senator, only one radio station gave |
no_hypocrisy |
Jan-24-07 10:50 PM |
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She was against this bankruptcy bill and convinced Bill to veto it. |
Robbien |
Jan-24-07 10:53 PM |
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I have this tendency to swim against the tide. |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-25-07 01:23 AM |
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She lost me with the Iraq War. |
impeachdubya |
Jan-25-07 01:31 AM |
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I'm apathetic. It's a trust thing, for me. Actually, I trust her husband more. |
Tatiana |
Jan-25-07 02:30 AM |
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She lost me when she voted to allow Chucklenuts permission to invade |
B Calm |
Jan-25-07 05:09 AM |
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Haven't and won't. I don't believe in dynasties. |
IdaBriggs |
Jan-25-07 05:13 AM |
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Health-care reform hearings |
GreenZoneLT |
Jan-25-07 05:18 AM |
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The perfect populist issue, carefully stripped of anything which might improve the population |
lumberjack_jeff |
Jan-25-07 12:53 PM |
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The only reason I voted for her in NYS was because the Green Candidate |
bluetrain |
Jan-25-07 05:28 AM |
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She has my vote any day of the week and I am sorry to report, |
Alamom |
Jan-25-07 05:38 AM |
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She never had my support--despite the appeal of Bill Clinton as "First Husband" |
bklyncowgirl |
Jan-25-07 06:00 AM |
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There was a time.. |
sendero |
Jan-25-07 06:18 AM |
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This has been the evolution of my thinking about her as well, and |
Skidmore |
Jan-25-07 06:24 AM |
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She's boring and she's bought. She lost my support when I figured out that |
w4rma |
Jan-25-07 06:43 AM |
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I saw a snippet of Hillary yesterday that summarized it all for me |
Phoebe Loosinhouse |
Jan-25-07 06:50 AM |
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Never really was a fan of hers |
Az |
Jan-25-07 07:11 AM |
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feels like a scam especially with mcaullife involved |
natrat |
Jan-25-07 07:22 AM |
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Three letters. |
mmonk |
Jan-25-07 07:25 AM |
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Ditto! |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Jan-25-07 11:57 AM |
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Hillary had $500 of our support in 2000. |
Tesha |
Jan-25-07 07:27 AM |
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cant stand her...she is in the way of change for America but shes got the $$$... |
xiamiam |
Jan-25-07 07:38 AM |
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The money is coming from pharmaceuticals. That does the people NO GOOD. |
WA98296 |
Jan-25-07 12:16 PM |
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When she voted for the IWR. I vowed not to vote for her again. I didn't this |
OmmmSweetOmmm |
Jan-25-07 07:39 AM |
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It's the economy, stupids! |
Lord Byron |
Jan-25-07 07:45 AM |
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I don't dislike HRC, but |
tenshi816 |
Jan-25-07 07:51 AM |
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When she shut out the health-care community... |
Everybody |
Jan-25-07 07:55 AM |
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That was it for me as well |
eridani |
Jan-25-07 09:16 AM |
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When she voted FOR the IRW. |
OregonBlue |
Jan-25-07 07:58 AM |
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I simply do not believe the majority of Americans will vote for a woman, |
WinkyDink |
Jan-25-07 07:58 AM |
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She never had my support . |
Cobalt Violet |
Jan-25-07 08:15 AM |
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IWR. |
Sick_of_Rethuggery |
Jan-25-07 08:20 AM |
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A lot of people won't appreciate hearing this, but here goes... |
Skinner |
Jan-25-07 08:21 AM |
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You can't be in favor of NAFTA and still be a lefty |
eridani |
Jan-25-07 09:18 AM |
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Yup! A democrat for Nafta is a Repuke in spirit, Nuf said. |
8643 |
Jan-25-07 09:26 AM |
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I think she's held to a higher standard because her last name is Clinton |
BullGooseLoony |
Jan-25-07 10:26 AM |
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I think you are on to something there... |
SaveElmer |
Jan-25-07 12:03 PM |
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Ya know I never thought of it in those terms. |
rinsd |
Jan-25-07 12:21 PM |
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I don't hold her to a higher standard - I just don't think she can win |
Laurab |
Jan-25-07 12:58 PM |
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What you say is true...but adding that in "hindsight" Clinton's Presidency |
KoKo01 |
Jan-25-07 07:44 PM |
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i didnt want a second bush, i REALLY dont want a second clinton |
seabeyond |
Jan-25-07 08:31 AM |
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I just can't re-live all the Clinton bashing |
dist22dem |
Jan-25-07 08:36 AM |
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I think Richardson has a better chance. H has too much baggage! |
8643 |
Jan-25-07 09:20 AM |
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priorities: |
rman |
Jan-25-07 09:20 AM |
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When she started being a big fake, like so many politicians. |
gauguin57 |
Jan-25-07 09:23 AM |
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I am amazed that it's h appening to me too! |
blossomstar |
Jan-25-07 09:43 AM |
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I have "Clinton Fatigue." |
Ilsa |
Jan-25-07 09:53 AM |
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when she came to boston and got aLL buddy buddy with |
sniffa |
Jan-25-07 09:53 AM |
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I like her more than Obama, anyway, if that means anything n/t |
confludemocrat |
Jan-25-07 09:59 AM |
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The proposed flag-burning amendment. |
SmokingJacket |
Jan-25-07 10:03 AM |
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After reading "Best Democracy Money Can Buy", although I was a very weak supporter of her |
mod mom |
Jan-25-07 10:07 AM |
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She can't win. |
DefenseLawyer |
Jan-25-07 10:19 AM |
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Her voting record is appalling for a Dem |
Old Broad |
Jan-25-07 10:35 AM |
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Here's her record |
etherealtruth |
Jan-25-07 11:57 AM |
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I LOVED Hillary Clinton BEFORE she voted for the IWR. After that, she lost me. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-25-07 12:03 PM |
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I agree with almost everything you said/think. Except, I can no longer |
WA98296 |
Jan-25-07 12:11 PM |
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The Digital Millennium Copyright Act - The Clintons are both Corporate Stooges |
bushmeat |
Jan-25-07 12:13 PM |
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She hasn't lost anything from me. |
rinsd |
Jan-25-07 12:19 PM |
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I am fundamentally against "legacy" elections. (no matter the party) |
SoCalDem |
Jan-25-07 12:22 PM |
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I never warmed to Hillary as much as I did Bill, |
Blue_In_AK |
Jan-25-07 12:23 PM |
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She's not much different than Mr Clinton |
djohnson |
Jan-25-07 12:34 PM |
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video games. |
Bornaginhooligan |
Jan-25-07 12:35 PM |
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Agree with your wife |
marlakay |
Jan-25-07 12:38 PM |
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Hilary reminds me of the "Good German" exposed as a myth by |
coalition_unwilling |
Jan-25-07 12:42 PM |
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It's just not all about her. Yet, this administration is trying to frame it as if it is. |
porphyrian |
Jan-25-07 01:00 PM |
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The final shoe dropped when she bashed Kerry the day after he 'botched' the joke. |
Diane R |
Jan-25-07 01:50 PM |
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She never had it at all. I find it extremely strange to consider the... |
Poll_Blind |
Jan-25-07 01:56 PM |
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There are a few reasons... |
DarkTirade |
Jan-25-07 06:38 PM |
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C'MON PEOPLE. IF SHE RUNS WE'LL VOTE FOR HER!!! |
CTyankee |
Jan-25-07 07:14 PM |
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I voted for her in 2000, |
SethInUpstateNY |
Jan-25-07 07:34 PM |
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She bends in the wind, as the political winds blow .... |
Oregonian |
Jan-25-07 08:09 PM |
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It's not patriotic to blindly follow a leader who lies us into war, it's treasonous! |
B Calm |
Jan-25-07 08:11 PM |
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Never had it. Never will. |
_dynamicdems |
Jan-25-07 08:26 PM |
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DLC |
Califooyah Operative |
Jan-25-07 11:53 PM |
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vote for war, voting record in general and her waffling. |
roguevalley |
Jan-26-07 12:34 AM |
#153 |