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Mon Dec-17-07 09:42 AM
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| 55. Wait a a minute here - did you hear all of what Rockefeller really said? |
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Forget what he said during his recitation of the bill's history and points. Go back to his opening statement.
He said that there were two versions of the bill, his (Intel) and the Judiciary version. He said that was proper and that the J-bill had followed his in sequence and would be considered as the first amendment to the Intel-bill. He recommended its approval.
So what's that mean?
It means that even though he defended immunity he also suggested that the version of the bill that didn't include it be passed over his version. In effect he said no immunity.
Did I hear him wrong?
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| -OFFICIAL FISA BILL DISCUSSION THREAD #1 |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:01 AM |
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thanks for this reminder. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:01 AM |
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Pledge of Alegience. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:04 AM |
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I don't mean to sound cranky, but what exactly are they |
midnight |
Dec-17-07 09:09 AM |
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Of the corporation, By the Corporation |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:13 AM |
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Add "Official" to your thread title |
rocknation |
Dec-17-07 09:04 AM |
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Just did. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:05 AM |
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Listening in... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:04 AM |
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Harry comes to the floor - vote expected at noon |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:05 AM |
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Reid up. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:06 AM |
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Harry Reid up |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:06 AM |
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Time divied up, Leadership time withheld |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:07 AM |
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McConnell bellows his bullshit (R. Leadership time) |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:08 AM |
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Reid just said Dodd was to speak. Does anyone know what time he's planning to take the floor? |
in_cog_ni_to |
Dec-17-07 09:07 AM |
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He's at the mic. |
PDittie |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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oh, crap I hate McConnell |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:08 AM |
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Mitch McConnell ... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:09 AM |
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and to do the peoples' business?? |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:12 AM |
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Yes it would! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:14 AM |
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Rockefeller is up, controls 20 minutes |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:10 AM |
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Rockefeller is up. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:10 AM |
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Rockefeller |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:12 AM |
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Too much like |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:15 AM |
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Jello Jay is bragging about his Intelligence bill right now. |
seafan |
Dec-17-07 09:14 AM |
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I fear that many do not |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:17 AM |
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That's my fear as well, citizen_jane. The media failed to inform. Catastrophic failure. |
seafan |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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As I said in another thread... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:35 AM |
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It is "illegal surveillance" because they captured ALL fiber optic traffic. Wire tapping |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:35 AM |
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You and I and |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:41 AM |
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Thanks! nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:17 AM |
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Rockefeller is running throught the bill's history now |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:19 AM |
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Not a word yet about immunity (10:21 am) |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:22 AM |
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As another DUer suggested. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:24 AM |
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they are trampling all over our rights. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:37 AM |
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Exclusivity question discussed now |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:25 AM |
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We're being assured that there will |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:28 AM |
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impeach the sob and get it over with |
madokie |
Dec-17-07 09:29 AM |
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will this be our Christmas present a Big FU to the American people. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:39 AM |
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Supposedly a "limited" |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:30 AM |
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Sen. Jay Rockefeller and the "the $66,600 bargain!" Is it a quid pro quo with the telecoms? |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:30 AM |
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Here it is ... Immunity |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:30 AM |
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Retroactive Immunity... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:31 AM |
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Damn Rockfeller; he's an apologist for the telecom companies. His |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:31 AM |
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Yep.. |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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His testimony is maddening.,. |
calipendence |
Dec-17-07 09:36 AM |
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I know, and agree it's maddening. We cannot be privy to anything |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:40 AM |
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Does "the specified timeframe" exclude pre-911 domestic spying? |
jtrockville |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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shameful, cowardly obfuscation. Patriotosm is the last refuge--and why didn't QWEST obey the order? |
librechik |
Dec-17-07 09:32 AM |
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Nacchio and Qwest: Another Political Prosecution? |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:36 AM |
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I cannot wait to hear Dodd. nt |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:33 AM |
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Oh, goody, Kit Bond now up. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:34 AM |
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Kit Bond: Our "outmoded" FISA bill! |
calipendence |
Dec-17-07 09:40 AM |
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oh if it isn't the jerk who thinks waterboarding is like swimming. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:34 AM |
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What telecom company has their meathooks in Rockefeller? ..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:36 AM |
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AT&T $32,500 = Verizon $30,500. What a bargain!! |
L. Coyote |
Dec-17-07 09:40 AM |
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Bwahahaha!!! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:43 AM |
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"Our men and women fighting overseas |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:39 AM |
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what the hell is that suppose to mean. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:42 AM |
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Basically he's trying to claim that |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:45 AM |
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So taking away our rights here |
Old Broad |
Dec-17-07 09:44 AM |
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Wait a a minute here - did you hear all of what Rockefeller really said? |
ThomWV |
Dec-17-07 09:42 AM |
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I think the whole point is to keep us confused, so we don't know what they are really doing! |
calipendence |
Dec-17-07 09:44 AM |
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those who watch those stations are definitely walking around in a fog. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:45 AM |
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You got it....They excell at Double Talk....so you don't find out what's in a bill for months! |
KoKo01 |
Dec-17-07 10:00 AM |
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I only heard part of what he said but got the distinct impression |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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hiding crimes behind language |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:46 AM |
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get the hook please. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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lol..no kidding |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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Oh sit down and shut up .... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:47 AM |
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Is he filibustering? Oye! nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:48 AM |
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Hi guys, I'm here too |
MiniMe |
Dec-17-07 09:48 AM |
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Here's Dodd! |
in_cog_ni_to |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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Dodd's up! |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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w00t! Dodd up! n/t |
hootinholler |
Dec-17-07 09:49 AM |
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NO, fucklehead. You need a bill that protects and defends the Constitution |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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Dodd is up!!!!! |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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The Democratic party is broken. They've made themselves irrelevant. |
Beelzebud |
Dec-17-07 09:50 AM |
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Sanity comes to the Senate!!!!! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:51 AM |
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He needs to slow-w-w down-n-n-n. nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:53 AM |
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You can tell this issue |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 09:55 AM |
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Yep, but not quite yet. |
tridim |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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. . . Those who voted for the IWR |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 09:53 AM |
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We need a "Protect America from the President" Act..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:55 AM |
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I fear, before this is over, it won't be just * we need protection from. nt |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 09:57 AM |
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Very true..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 09:58 AM |
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I fear you are probably correct. nt |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:00 AM |
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Protect the World and the Environment Act from this nutcase. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:01 AM |
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The senate is 'debating' the actions of a criminal administration |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 09:56 AM |
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So true....It's an indicator of how far this country has fallen...... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:06 AM |
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I think so too. (an indicator) |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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Great points, Solly. This whole theatre is lending legitimacy |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 10:07 AM |
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"...to an issue that shouldn't even be one.Kind of like torture. " |
Solly Mack |
Dec-17-07 10:15 AM |
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Alright Chris Dodd! |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:00 AM |
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short memories is right!! |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:07 AM |
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Dodd fucking ROCKS! |
Dhalgren |
Dec-17-07 10:03 AM |
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Just called Senator Boxer's office |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:06 AM |
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Not allowed? That's odd, isn't it? |
babylonsister |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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VERY disturbing, isn't it? |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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Many Americans don't care, they really don't |
debbierlus |
Dec-17-07 10:18 AM |
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Dodd is making one of the most important speeches of our lifetimes on the Senate floor today. |
watrwefitinfor |
Dec-17-07 10:06 AM |
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the media wants to keep the american people as usual dumbed down. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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Dodd .... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:08 AM |
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oof I have to excuse myself, |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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S'okay... |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:16 AM |
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Preach on, brother Chris! |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:11 AM |
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I'm here |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-17-07 10:12 AM |
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more of them have to kick ass. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:16 AM |
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Amen to that |
shadowknows69 |
Dec-17-07 10:20 AM |
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CSpan 2 is down in the Pittsburgh Area (Comcast)... |
Junkdrawer |
Dec-17-07 10:15 AM |
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Comcast sucks..... |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:17 AM |
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Try this link and choose your player to listen online to CSpan2, Senate session: |
seafan |
Dec-17-07 10:28 AM |
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do you have computer to listen or watch? |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:17 AM |
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I'm watching online now... |
Junkdrawer |
Dec-17-07 10:19 AM |
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You can stream it |
Nictuku |
Dec-17-07 10:19 AM |
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For this executive branch, Secrecy is Power |
liberalla |
Dec-17-07 10:17 AM |
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Me too!!!! |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:19 AM |
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"If the case would go to trial, the corporations would lose." |
marmar |
Dec-17-07 10:20 AM |
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Dodd is doing good. |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:20 AM |
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Saying that A.T.&T. |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:21 AM |
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Is it time |
citizen_jane |
Dec-17-07 10:21 AM |
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"bring checks and balances... |
G_Leo_Criley |
Dec-17-07 10:22 AM |
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Moving this Tread here: |
Le Taz Hot |
Dec-17-07 10:23 AM |
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...... |
alyce douglas |
Dec-17-07 10:28 AM |
#119 |
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